Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 > > I had more symptoms beginning with DMSA (at 25 mg every 4 hours). > > They included leg and foot cramps (needed more minerals), urge to > > grind my teeth (needed more zinc), sharp brief headaches, blurriness > > of vision, joint and muscle aches, fatigue and mild peripheral > > neuropathy. I was very functional though. > > Do you still get some of these, but just not as severely as before? > This is my experience. I had a month or so at the beginning with the symptoms I described. I forgot that I also had some pains in my teeth, too. Then I had about 9 months of feeling really good. The last month or two, I've been feeling really run down. I finally concluded that that was low ferritin along with adrenal and thyroid issues. So, my experience is pretty much the opposite of the " trough " Andy describes in fig. 15 of Amal. Ill. > I do still notice things, but they seem > more like minor distractions than real symptoms. Last year, many > symptoms were bad enough to interfere in my life on a daily basis. > I still have some of the same issues, but vastly reduced in > severity (except when my adrenals are stressed, then things get a > little worse, but still not like before). I do have a lot less joint pain than I used to, but I'm more tired. I used to HAVE to have 9 hours of sleep a night and now I find it hard to sleep 7. Since it's been lighter earlier I'm not usually waking up feeling refreshed. So, I'd say things are slightly better over all, but not as good as a few months ago. I've never been bedridden, but I haven't worked in 14 years. Because I am a fast metabolizer, I have to wake up twice a night. I have to go give doses to my daughter, too. All this really takes a toll on my endocrine system. > Seems like a good idea. I still haven't done anything about my > thyroid. I continue to see it as a " borderline " issue, but perhaps > I am mistaken. I am trying to focus on reducing my yeast problems > at present - things are very stirred up on that front. on Autism-Mercury has done some posts recently claiming Armour and Transfer Factor (or colostrum, I'm not clear) have cleared up yeast for her granddaughter. Raising body temperature (which Armour does for hypothyroid people) is supposed to help immunity. Yeast hasn't been a problem for me for awhile now, but my daughter (who probably needs both adrenal and thyroid support) is still having lots of trouble with it. W. Quote
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 > > > > > I had more symptoms beginning with DMSA (at 25 mg every 4 hours). > > > They included leg and foot cramps (needed more minerals), urge to > > > grind my teeth (needed more zinc), sharp brief headaches, blurriness > > > of vision, joint and muscle aches, fatigue and mild peripheral > > > neuropathy. I was very functional though. > > > > Do you still get some of these, but just not as severely as before? > > This is my experience. > > I had a month or so at the beginning with the symptoms I described. I > forgot that I also had some pains in my teeth, too. Then I had about > 9 months of feeling really good. The last month or two, I've been > feeling really run down. I finally concluded that that was low > ferritin along with adrenal and thyroid issues. So, my experience is > pretty much the opposite of the " trough " Andy describes in fig. 15 of > Amal. Ill. Are you taking a good multi-vitamin along with your other supps? I have found this helpful. Also, B12 shots help a LOT. That's interesting that your experience doesn't track the predicted path. Just goes to show there is nothing absolute. Even if Andy's description was based on lots of hard data, there are exceptions to every rule. > > I do still notice things, but they seem > > more like minor distractions than real symptoms. Last year, many > > symptoms were bad enough to interfere in my life on a daily basis. > > I still have some of the same issues, but vastly reduced in > > severity (except when my adrenals are stressed, then things get a > > little worse, but still not like before). > > I do have a lot less joint pain than I used to, but I'm more tired. I > used to HAVE to have 9 hours of sleep a night and now I find it hard > to sleep 7. Since it's been lighter earlier I'm not usually waking up > feeling refreshed. So, I'd say things are slightly better over all, > but not as good as a few months ago. I've never been bedridden, but I > haven't worked in 14 years. Because I am a fast metabolizer, I have > to wake up twice a night. I have to go give doses to my daughter, > too. All this really takes a toll on my endocrine system. Yes, it sounds like you need to tinker something - either the thyroid/adrenals or some vit/mineral. You need to stay well (in relative terms, anyway) so you can keep taking care of yourself as well as your daughter. I did 3 hourly doses at night for awhile, but I have slipped back to 3.5 hours. I don't feel any different. I still do 2.5 hours daytime. I am a slightly fast metabolizer at Ca/P of 2.28. I wonder if this changes over time - have you noticed this ratio changes noticeably over repeated hair tests? > > Seems like a good idea. I still haven't done anything about my > > thyroid. I continue to see it as a " borderline " issue, but perhaps > > I am mistaken. I am trying to focus on reducing my yeast problems > > at present - things are very stirred up on that front. > > on Autism-Mercury has done some posts recently claiming Armour > and Transfer Factor (or colostrum, I'm not clear) have cleared up > yeast for her granddaughter. Raising body temperature (which Armour > does for hypothyroid people) is supposed to help immunity. Yeast > hasn't been a problem for me for awhile now, but my daughter (who > probably needs both adrenal and thyroid support) is still having lots > of trouble with it. > > W. Yes, I haven't seen the latest, but I read some of that discussion. I guess I do need to deal with thyroid at some point, but I stirred up the yeast by trying enzymes at too high a dose and now I feel I have to do something to manage it before I do anything else. Anyway, I think prevention (in the form of thyroid support) will have to wait until I get my gut back into a " managed " state. Sigh. -- Quote
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 > > > > > I had more symptoms beginning with DMSA (at 25 mg every 4 hours). > > > They included leg and foot cramps (needed more minerals), urge to > > > grind my teeth (needed more zinc), sharp brief headaches, blurriness > > > of vision, joint and muscle aches, fatigue and mild peripheral > > > neuropathy. I was very functional though. > > > > Do you still get some of these, but just not as severely as before? > > This is my experience. > > I had a month or so at the beginning with the symptoms I described. I > forgot that I also had some pains in my teeth, too. Then I had about > 9 months of feeling really good. The last month or two, I've been > feeling really run down. I finally concluded that that was low > ferritin along with adrenal and thyroid issues. So, my experience is > pretty much the opposite of the " trough " Andy describes in fig. 15 of > Amal. Ill. Are you taking a good multi-vitamin along with your other supps? I have found this helpful. Also, B12 shots help a LOT. That's interesting that your experience doesn't track the predicted path. Just goes to show there is nothing absolute. Even if Andy's description was based on lots of hard data, there are exceptions to every rule. > > I do still notice things, but they seem > > more like minor distractions than real symptoms. Last year, many > > symptoms were bad enough to interfere in my life on a daily basis. > > I still have some of the same issues, but vastly reduced in > > severity (except when my adrenals are stressed, then things get a > > little worse, but still not like before). > > I do have a lot less joint pain than I used to, but I'm more tired. I > used to HAVE to have 9 hours of sleep a night and now I find it hard > to sleep 7. Since it's been lighter earlier I'm not usually waking up > feeling refreshed. So, I'd say things are slightly better over all, > but not as good as a few months ago. I've never been bedridden, but I > haven't worked in 14 years. Because I am a fast metabolizer, I have > to wake up twice a night. I have to go give doses to my daughter, > too. All this really takes a toll on my endocrine system. Yes, it sounds like you need to tinker something - either the thyroid/adrenals or some vit/mineral. You need to stay well (in relative terms, anyway) so you can keep taking care of yourself as well as your daughter. I did 3 hourly doses at night for awhile, but I have slipped back to 3.5 hours. I don't feel any different. I still do 2.5 hours daytime. I am a slightly fast metabolizer at Ca/P of 2.28. I wonder if this changes over time - have you noticed this ratio changes noticeably over repeated hair tests? > > Seems like a good idea. I still haven't done anything about my > > thyroid. I continue to see it as a " borderline " issue, but perhaps > > I am mistaken. I am trying to focus on reducing my yeast problems > > at present - things are very stirred up on that front. > > on Autism-Mercury has done some posts recently claiming Armour > and Transfer Factor (or colostrum, I'm not clear) have cleared up > yeast for her granddaughter. Raising body temperature (which Armour > does for hypothyroid people) is supposed to help immunity. Yeast > hasn't been a problem for me for awhile now, but my daughter (who > probably needs both adrenal and thyroid support) is still having lots > of trouble with it. > > W. Yes, I haven't seen the latest, but I read some of that discussion. I guess I do need to deal with thyroid at some point, but I stirred up the yeast by trying enzymes at too high a dose and now I feel I have to do something to manage it before I do anything else. Anyway, I think prevention (in the form of thyroid support) will have to wait until I get my gut back into a " managed " state. Sigh. -- Quote
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