EMT Impersonator

[Guest guest]

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Good morning, . It sounds like you most definitly have an impersonater

running around. What does he say on scenes, etc? First all, he has no

business there.

Secondly, I don't think that he should be doing this. Several options come to

mind. Even though he is not TDH certified, I do know of a few people that TDH

has went after for representing themselves as EMTs, etc.

Several statutes come to mind here:

§ 37.11. IMPERSONATING PUBLIC SERVANT. (a) A person

commits an offense if he:

(1) impersonates a public servant with intent to

induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to

rely on his pretended official acts; or

(2) knowingly purports to exercise any function of a

public servant or of a public office, including that of a judge and

court, and the position or office through which he purports to

exercise a function of a public servant or public office has no

lawful existence under the constitution or laws of this state or of

the United States.

( An offense under this section is a felony of the third

degree.

§ 37.12. FALSE IDENTIFICATION AS PEACE OFFICER;

MISREPRESENTATION OF PROPERTY. (a) A person commits an offense

if:

(1) the person makes, provides to another person, or

possesses a card, document, badge, insignia, shoulder emblem, or

other item bearing an insignia of a law enforcement agency that

identifies a person as a peace officer or a reserve law enforcement

officer; and

(2) the person who makes, provides, or possesses the

item bearing the insignia knows that the person so identified by the

item is not commissioned as a peace officer or reserve law

enforcement officer as indicated on the item.

( It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:

(1) the card, document, badge, insignia, shoulder

emblem, or other item bearing an insignia of a law enforcement

agency clearly identifies the person as an honorary or junior peace

officer or reserve law enforcement officer, or as a member of a

junior posse;

(2) the person identified as a peace officer or

reserve law enforcement officer by the item bearing the insignia

was commissioned in that capacity when the item was made; or

(3) the item was used or intended for use exclusively

for decorative purposes or in an artistic or dramatic presentation.

© In this section, " reserve law enforcement officer " has

the same meaning as is given that term in Section 1701.001,

Occupations Code.

(d) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally

or knowingly misrepresents an object as property belonging to a law

enforcement agency.

(e) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

Added by Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 5672, ch. 1075, § 1, eff. Sept.

1, 1983. Amended by Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 514, § 1, eff.

Sept. 1, 1987; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept.

1, 1994; Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, § 14.831, eff. Sept. 1,

2001.

§ 38.15. INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES. (a) A

person commits an offense if the person with criminal negligence

interrupts, disrupts, impedes, or otherwise interferes with:

(1) a peace officer while the peace officer is

performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted by

law;

(2) a person who is employed to provide emergency

medical services including the transportation of ill or injured

persons while the person is performing that duty;

(3) a fire fighter, while the fire fighter is fighting

a fire or investigating the cause of a fire;

(4) an animal under the supervision of a peace

officer, corrections officer, or jailer, if the person knows the

animal is being used for law enforcement, corrections, prison or

jail security, or investigative purposes; or

(5) the transmission of a communication over a

citizen's band radio channel, the purpose of which communication is

to inform or inquire about an emergency.

( An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

© It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(1)

that the conduct engaged in by the defendant was intended to warn a

person operating a motor vehicle of the presence of a peace officer

who was enforcing Subtitle C, Title 7, Transportation Code.

(d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that

the interruption, disruption, impediment, or interference alleged

consisted of speech only.

(e) In this section, " emergency " means a condition or

circumstance in which an individual is or is reasonably believed by

the person transmitting the communication to be in imminent danger

of serious bodily injury or in which property is or is reasonably

believed by the person transmitting the communication to be in

imminent danger of damage or destruction.

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Good morning, . It sounds like you most definitly have an impersonater

running around. What does he say on scenes, etc? First all, he has no

business there.

Secondly, I don't think that he should be doing this. Several options come to

mind. Even though he is not TDH certified, I do know of a few people that TDH

has went after for representing themselves as EMTs, etc.

Several statutes come to mind here:

§ 37.11. IMPERSONATING PUBLIC SERVANT. (a) A person

commits an offense if he:

(1) impersonates a public servant with intent to

induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to

rely on his pretended official acts; or

(2) knowingly purports to exercise any function of a

public servant or of a public office, including that of a judge and

court, and the position or office through which he purports to

exercise a function of a public servant or public office has no

lawful existence under the constitution or laws of this state or of

the United States.

( An offense under this section is a felony of the third

degree.

§ 37.12. FALSE IDENTIFICATION AS PEACE OFFICER;

MISREPRESENTATION OF PROPERTY. (a) A person commits an offense

if:

(1) the person makes, provides to another person, or

possesses a card, document, badge, insignia, shoulder emblem, or

other item bearing an insignia of a law enforcement agency that

identifies a person as a peace officer or a reserve law enforcement

officer; and

(2) the person who makes, provides, or possesses the

item bearing the insignia knows that the person so identified by the

item is not commissioned as a peace officer or reserve law

enforcement officer as indicated on the item.

( It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:

(1) the card, document, badge, insignia, shoulder

emblem, or other item bearing an insignia of a law enforcement

agency clearly identifies the person as an honorary or junior peace

officer or reserve law enforcement officer, or as a member of a

junior posse;

(2) the person identified as a peace officer or

reserve law enforcement officer by the item bearing the insignia

was commissioned in that capacity when the item was made; or

(3) the item was used or intended for use exclusively

for decorative purposes or in an artistic or dramatic presentation.

© In this section, " reserve law enforcement officer " has

the same meaning as is given that term in Section 1701.001,

Occupations Code.

(d) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally

or knowingly misrepresents an object as property belonging to a law

enforcement agency.

(e) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

Added by Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 5672, ch. 1075, § 1, eff. Sept.

1, 1983. Amended by Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 514, § 1, eff.

Sept. 1, 1987; Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept.

1, 1994; Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, § 14.831, eff. Sept. 1,

2001.

§ 38.15. INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES. (a) A

person commits an offense if the person with criminal negligence

interrupts, disrupts, impedes, or otherwise interferes with:

(1) a peace officer while the peace officer is

performing a duty or exercising authority imposed or granted by

law;

(2) a person who is employed to provide emergency

medical services including the transportation of ill or injured

persons while the person is performing that duty;

(3) a fire fighter, while the fire fighter is fighting

a fire or investigating the cause of a fire;

(4) an animal under the supervision of a peace

officer, corrections officer, or jailer, if the person knows the

animal is being used for law enforcement, corrections, prison or

jail security, or investigative purposes; or

(5) the transmission of a communication over a

citizen's band radio channel, the purpose of which communication is

to inform or inquire about an emergency.

( An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

© It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(1)

that the conduct engaged in by the defendant was intended to warn a

person operating a motor vehicle of the presence of a peace officer

who was enforcing Subtitle C, Title 7, Transportation Code.

(d) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that

the interruption, disruption, impediment, or interference alleged

consisted of speech only.

(e) In this section, " emergency " means a condition or

circumstance in which an individual is or is reasonably believed by

the person transmitting the communication to be in imminent danger

of serious bodily injury or in which property is or is reasonably

believed by the person transmitting the communication to be in

imminent danger of damage or destruction.

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

I noticed my signature is not coming up on here. Before the flaming

starts, it is:

J. Hoskins

EMT/EMS Instructor

Licensed Peace Officer/TCLEOSE Instructor

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

I noticed my signature is not coming up on here. Before the flaming

starts, it is:

J. Hoskins

EMT/EMS Instructor

Licensed Peace Officer/TCLEOSE Instructor

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Hey whats goin on Booby,

I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

Take care over seas and come back home safley.

-

> Hello there to....

>

> I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

while

> back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

had seen

> him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

never

> did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

told me

> that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

>

> I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

he

> cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

>

> I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

dude. In

> fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

themselves as

> certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

they

> " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

license.

>

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

> Bobby

> EMT Impersonator

>

>

>

> I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

constantly

> runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

the

> shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

of

> sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

young

> man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

the

> widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

the

> body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

be

> a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

There

> have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

have

> been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

thought

> that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

can be

> done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

not

> certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

>

> -, EMT-I

>

> PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey whats goin on Booby,

I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

Take care over seas and come back home safley.

-

> Hello there to....

>

> I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

while

> back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

had seen

> him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

never

> did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

told me

> that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

>

> I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

he

> cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

>

> I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

dude. In

> fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

themselves as

> certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

they

> " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

license.

>

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

> Bobby

> EMT Impersonator

>

>

>

> I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

constantly

> runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

the

> shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

of

> sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

young

> man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

the

> widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

the

> body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

be

> a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

There

> have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

have

> been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

thought

> that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

can be

> done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

not

> certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

>

> -, EMT-I

>

> PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey whats goin on Booby,

I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

Take care over seas and come back home safley.

-

> Hello there to....

>

> I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

while

> back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

had seen

> him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

never

> did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

told me

> that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

>

> I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

he

> cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

>

> I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

dude. In

> fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

themselves as

> certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

they

> " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

license.

>

>

> Bobby

>

>

>

> Bobby

> EMT Impersonator

>

>

>

> I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

constantly

> runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

the

> shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

of

> sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

young

> man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

the

> widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

the

> body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

be

> a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

There

> have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

have

> been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

thought

> that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

can be

> done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

not

> certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

>

> -, EMT-I

>

> PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just my 2 cents worth, but I'd be very careful about leting him help.

Sounds to like you have an obsessive/compulsive on your hands, and they do

not need any encouragemant.

, EMT-P

Nacogdoches County EMS

Re: EMT Impersonator

>

> Just my opinion, and it's probably worth less than a cup of coffee, here

goes. While I am not sure anything can be done, officially, I have a modest

proposal...

>

> Assess whether or not he causes problems on a scene. If he is actually

useful, let him help. You get an extra pair of hands for a few minutes, he

feels good about himself, and everyone has a good day.

> Some people just are wired different, and he sounds like someone who needs

some type of life. Continue monitoring for changes in his behavior.

>

> HOWEVER... If he exceeds bounds or starts jumping calls....

>

> Get some pictures of this wannabe and distribute these to the DPS, county

sheriffs, local PDs who work the area he frequents (he sounds territorial),

and if he drives, maybe some pics of his car, license number,

desciption,etc.

>

> On a one-on-one basis, let the LEOs know the truth about this person, and

suggest (if it is the case) that this person is a hazard at a scene.

>

> While scenes can be busy, maybe a close and personal encounter with a LEO

will shut this guy down. If not, a few tickets / arrests for Obstructing a

scene might cool his jets.

>

> Larry RN, LP, yada, yada ...

> Houston

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like some of the TV news reporters and newspaper editors I have dealt

with in the past....

I am curious though, at this point, if he has done anything that can

actually be dealt with? Specifically, has he identified himself as an EMT?

If you specifically ask him if he is an EMT, I wonder what his answer would

be?

Mike

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like some of the TV news reporters and newspaper editors I have dealt

with in the past....

I am curious though, at this point, if he has done anything that can

actually be dealt with? Specifically, has he identified himself as an EMT?

If you specifically ask him if he is an EMT, I wonder what his answer would

be?

Mike

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like some of the TV news reporters and newspaper editors I have dealt

with in the past....

I am curious though, at this point, if he has done anything that can

actually be dealt with? Specifically, has he identified himself as an EMT?

If you specifically ask him if he is an EMT, I wonder what his answer would

be?

Mike

EMT Impersonator

I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who constantly

runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with the

shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs of

sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This young

man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with the

widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at the

body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to be

a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

(Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was). There

have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also have

been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I thought

that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that can be

done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is not

certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

-, EMT-I

PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

[Guest guest]

Thanks to the system for letting more and more crazy folks out on the

street.This guy is harmless when compared to others that are wandering our

streets. We all have someone in our area that has the six pak but lost the

plastic rings that hold it together.PD is probably tired of dealing with

this guy because nothing can really been done to him or for him. My

suggestion is to keep a eye on the guy and pray he is the worst you will

see. I would however take the time after a call and speak with him and

voice your concerns. Have you spoken with the person about your concerns

will be the first question ask of you. Be respectful, in reality, he has

just as much right on the street as you do. He is a bystander, a crazy

bystander, but still a bystander. He sounds sane compared to some folks I

know in EMS.

coolclay84 wrote:

> Hey whats goin on Booby,

> I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

> someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

> you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

> fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

> could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

> and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

> on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

> some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

> difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

> Take care over seas and come back home safley.

>

> -

> > Hello there to....

> >

> > I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

> while

> > back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

> had seen

> > him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

> never

> > did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

> told me

> > that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

> >

> > I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

> he

> > cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

> >

> > I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

> dude. In

> > fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

> themselves as

> > certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

> they

> > " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

> license.

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> >

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> > EMT Impersonator

> >

> >

> >

> > I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

> constantly

> > runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> > failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

> the

> > shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

> of

> > sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> > several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

> young

> > man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> > everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> > uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

> the

> > widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

> the

> > body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> > Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> > the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

> be

> > a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> > running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> > (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

> There

> > have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> > always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

> have

> > been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> > detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> > going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

> thought

> > that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

> can be

> > done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

> not

> > certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> > assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> > suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> > before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

> >

> > -, EMT-I

> >

> > PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> > orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to the system for letting more and more crazy folks out on the

street.This guy is harmless when compared to others that are wandering our

streets. We all have someone in our area that has the six pak but lost the

plastic rings that hold it together.PD is probably tired of dealing with

this guy because nothing can really been done to him or for him. My

suggestion is to keep a eye on the guy and pray he is the worst you will

see. I would however take the time after a call and speak with him and

voice your concerns. Have you spoken with the person about your concerns

will be the first question ask of you. Be respectful, in reality, he has

just as much right on the street as you do. He is a bystander, a crazy

bystander, but still a bystander. He sounds sane compared to some folks I

know in EMS.

coolclay84 wrote:

> Hey whats goin on Booby,

> I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

> someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

> you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

> fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

> could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

> and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

> on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

> some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

> difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

> Take care over seas and come back home safley.

>

> -

> > Hello there to....

> >

> > I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

> while

> > back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

> had seen

> > him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

> never

> > did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

> told me

> > that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

> >

> > I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

> he

> > cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

> >

> > I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

> dude. In

> > fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

> themselves as

> > certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

> they

> > " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

> license.

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> >

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> > EMT Impersonator

> >

> >

> >

> > I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

> constantly

> > runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> > failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

> the

> > shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

> of

> > sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> > several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

> young

> > man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> > everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> > uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

> the

> > widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

> the

> > body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> > Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> > the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

> be

> > a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> > running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> > (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

> There

> > have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> > always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

> have

> > been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> > detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> > going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

> thought

> > that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

> can be

> > done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

> not

> > certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> > assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> > suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> > before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

> >

> > -, EMT-I

> >

> > PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> > orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks to the system for letting more and more crazy folks out on the

street.This guy is harmless when compared to others that are wandering our

streets. We all have someone in our area that has the six pak but lost the

plastic rings that hold it together.PD is probably tired of dealing with

this guy because nothing can really been done to him or for him. My

suggestion is to keep a eye on the guy and pray he is the worst you will

see. I would however take the time after a call and speak with him and

voice your concerns. Have you spoken with the person about your concerns

will be the first question ask of you. Be respectful, in reality, he has

just as much right on the street as you do. He is a bystander, a crazy

bystander, but still a bystander. He sounds sane compared to some folks I

know in EMS.

coolclay84 wrote:

> Hey whats goin on Booby,

> I heard that Early PD had dealt with him before. I really wish

> someone would do something about him. At that funeral, and I'm sure

> you know which one I'm talking about, he was meandering around. I'm

> fairly sure that most police officers won't want to deal with him. I

> could probly think of a service that would make him one of their own,

> and I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. He has never showed up

> on one of my scenes (Luckily) but I do know that he has gone into

> some of the local bars here trying to pick up women. I know he

> difinatley has tried that at Back Roads. Well

> Take care over seas and come back home safley.

>

> -

> > Hello there to....

> >

> > I know who your talking about. He was on a scene of mine in town a

> while

> > back, MVC I think. He never said anything, never offered to help. I

> had seen

> > him before so I told the police to remove him, which they actually

> never

> > did. I asked the officer about it after the fact and he basically

> told me

> > that they were tired of dealing with him, that it would do no good.

> >

> > I think we should kidnap him and perform some type of torture till

> he

> > cracks. (JUST KIDDING)

> >

> > I would actually say that the TDH would want to know about this

> dude. In

> > fact I know that they impose fines on those who impersonate

> themselves as

> > certified and have seen the entry in the Texas EMS magazine. Once

> they

> > " mark " these people, they can never apply for a certificate or

> license.

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> >

> >

> >

> > Bobby

> > EMT Impersonator

> >

> >

> >

> > I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

> constantly

> > runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> > failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

> the

> > shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

> of

> > sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> > several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

> young

> > man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> > everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> > uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

> the

> > widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

> the

> > body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> > Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> > the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

> be

> > a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> > running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> > (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

> There

> > have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> > always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

> have

> > been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> > detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> > going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

> thought

> > that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

> can be

> > done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

> not

> > certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> > assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> > suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> > before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

> >

> > -, EMT-I

> >

> > PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> > orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-- " nelson williams " wrote:

Just my 2 cents worth, but I'd be very careful about leting him help.

Sounds to like you have an obsessive/compulsive on your hands, and they do not

need any encouragemant.

Good point, .

It sounds from further info given by that his knows just how far to push

the envelope. That business of him trying to pick up a date at a bar ... how

pathetic. Yeah, but what can you do at scene? Sounds like nothing, unless he

goes over the line.

[Guest guest]

-- " nelson williams " wrote:

Just my 2 cents worth, but I'd be very careful about leting him help.

Sounds to like you have an obsessive/compulsive on your hands, and they do not

need any encouragemant.

Good point, .

It sounds from further info given by that his knows just how far to push

the envelope. That business of him trying to pick up a date at a bar ... how

pathetic. Yeah, but what can you do at scene? Sounds like nothing, unless he

goes over the line.

[Guest guest]

-- " nelson williams " wrote:

Just my 2 cents worth, but I'd be very careful about leting him help.

Sounds to like you have an obsessive/compulsive on your hands, and they do not

need any encouragemant.

Good point, .

It sounds from further info given by that his knows just how far to push

the envelope. That business of him trying to pick up a date at a bar ... how

pathetic. Yeah, but what can you do at scene? Sounds like nothing, unless he

goes over the line.

[Guest guest]

Yea, actually if he wants to " jump a call " I'll let him jump my little call

up to Iraq. I'd gladly offer that to him.

EMT Impersonator

>

>

>

> I've got a question. Where I live there is a young man who

constantly

> runs around in a TSTC EMS uniform. He was once a student, but has

> failed the basic course numerous times. He walks around town with

the

> shirt and ems pants in addition to that, he wears about 14 pairs

of

> sisccors, and a glove pouch. Recently there was a funeral in which

> several (30-40) police, fire, and ems personel attended. This

young

> man, made his way onto the grounds, and was walking around amongst

> everyone else. (Almost all of the emergency personel were fully

> uniformed.) At one point he attempted to make conversation with

the

> widow, also it looked as though he was trying to sneak a peak at

the

> body. I can't even believe someone would do such a thing.

> Then upon departure for the funeral procession, he was standing on

> the corner in a " Secret Service " type pose, with what appeared to

be

> a cell phone ear piece in his ear (with no cell phone), which was

> running down his shirt. Obviously trying to impersonate someone

> (Possibly the DPS officer blocking traffic near where he was).

There

> have been numerous times where he has showed up on scenes, and is

> always misleading people to what he is or does. There have also

have

> been times that he was arrested for trying to arrest someone or

> detain some people, I'm not really sure which one. This has been

> going on for quite sometime and when I was at the funeral I

thought

> that this was just totaly uncalled for. Is there anything that

can be

> done? How much will arresting him really help? This gentleman is

not

> certified, and I pray to god he never does get certified. So I'm

> assuming that this is out of TDH's reach. Anyone have any

> suggestions? And have any of you dealt with this kind of thing

> before? What happened in thoose instances? Thanks for your help.

>

> -, EMT-I

>

> PS: He is NOT associated with any type of EMS, Fire, or Police

> orginaization. He holds no certification of any type.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree one thousand percent. If this dude is helping and he messes

something up then we could be liable. By that I mean because we know that

he's a nuisance, and possibly an imposter of some sort, I would think that

puts the responsibility on the provider. I do like the thing about the

" wanted posters " . That's actually a funny idea. A little humiliation goes

along way. HAHA That's my two cents and Larry's coffee.

Bobby

Re: EMT Impersonator

>

>

> >

> > Just my opinion, and it's probably worth less than a cup of coffee,

here

> goes. While I am not sure anything can be done, officially, I have a

modest

> proposal...

> >

> > Assess whether or not he causes problems on a scene. If he is actually

> useful, let him help. You get an extra pair of hands for a few minutes,

he

> feels good about himself, and everyone has a good day.

> > Some people just are wired different, and he sounds like someone who

needs

> some type of life. Continue monitoring for changes in his behavior.

> >

> > HOWEVER... If he exceeds bounds or starts jumping calls....

> >

> > Get some pictures of this wannabe and distribute these to the DPS,

county

> sheriffs, local PDs who work the area he frequents (he sounds

territorial),

> and if he drives, maybe some pics of his car, license number,

> desciption,etc.

> >

> > On a one-on-one basis, let the LEOs know the truth about this person,

and

> suggest (if it is the case) that this person is a hazard at a scene.

> >

> > While scenes can be busy, maybe a close and personal encounter with a

LEO

> will shut this guy down. If not, a few tickets / arrests for Obstructing a

> scene might cool his jets.

> >

> > Larry RN, LP, yada, yada ...

> > Houston

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--- Laptop wrote:

> Several statutes come to mind here:

>

> § 37.11. IMPERSONATING PUBLIC SERVANT. (a) A person

> commits an offense if he:

> (1) impersonates a public servant with intent to

> induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to

> rely on his pretended official acts; or

> ( An offense under this section is a felony of the third

> degree.

Jay has hit this on the head. But, here's the reality of this

situation...

What he's doing, by your description, is distressing, but not likely

illegal until he actually says or does something " official. "

I agree with others on here that given his actions/continued presence,

he's either looking to be involved and just not sure how to go about it

(been turned down enough, etc. that he's just trying to " be there " ), OR,

more worrisome, is that's he's mentally unstable.

Let me be very, very clear - without knowing this person or anything else

about him than the few emails here, I cannot and will not make a

determination of his mental status. Period.

That said, I'd keep a close watch on this individual. It's disturbing

that the local police won't take an interest, but that could also be

because they've had significantly more interactions with him and

understand that he's " just a wannabe " and not a threat.

Gavin DeBecker has a great book that I encourage everyone to read - it's a

pretty good introduction into " personal profiling " and training yourself

to trust your instincts with regards to people, places and situations of

all types... it's called " The Gift of Fear " and I pesonally think that

every emergency responder should have to read it, because it teaches you

how to trust the hair on the back of your neck, the feeling in your guy,

and to react smartly without being in fear.

Mike

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[Guest guest]

--- Laptop wrote:

> Several statutes come to mind here:

>

> § 37.11. IMPERSONATING PUBLIC SERVANT. (a) A person

> commits an offense if he:

> (1) impersonates a public servant with intent to

> induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to

> rely on his pretended official acts; or

> ( An offense under this section is a felony of the third

> degree.

Jay has hit this on the head. But, here's the reality of this

situation...

What he's doing, by your description, is distressing, but not likely

illegal until he actually says or does something " official. "

I agree with others on here that given his actions/continued presence,

he's either looking to be involved and just not sure how to go about it

(been turned down enough, etc. that he's just trying to " be there " ), OR,

more worrisome, is that's he's mentally unstable.

Let me be very, very clear - without knowing this person or anything else

about him than the few emails here, I cannot and will not make a

determination of his mental status. Period.

That said, I'd keep a close watch on this individual. It's disturbing

that the local police won't take an interest, but that could also be

because they've had significantly more interactions with him and

understand that he's " just a wannabe " and not a threat.

Gavin DeBecker has a great book that I encourage everyone to read - it's a

pretty good introduction into " personal profiling " and training yourself

to trust your instincts with regards to people, places and situations of

all types... it's called " The Gift of Fear " and I pesonally think that

every emergency responder should have to read it, because it teaches you

how to trust the hair on the back of your neck, the feeling in your guy,

and to react smartly without being in fear.

Mike

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

--- Laptop wrote:

> Several statutes come to mind here:

>

> § 37.11. IMPERSONATING PUBLIC SERVANT. (a) A person

> commits an offense if he:

> (1) impersonates a public servant with intent to

> induce another to submit to his pretended official authority or to

> rely on his pretended official acts; or

> ( An offense under this section is a felony of the third

> degree.

Jay has hit this on the head. But, here's the reality of this

situation...

What he's doing, by your description, is distressing, but not likely

illegal until he actually says or does something " official. "

I agree with others on here that given his actions/continued presence,

he's either looking to be involved and just not sure how to go about it

(been turned down enough, etc. that he's just trying to " be there " ), OR,

more worrisome, is that's he's mentally unstable.

Let me be very, very clear - without knowing this person or anything else

about him than the few emails here, I cannot and will not make a

determination of his mental status. Period.

That said, I'd keep a close watch on this individual. It's disturbing

that the local police won't take an interest, but that could also be

because they've had significantly more interactions with him and

understand that he's " just a wannabe " and not a threat.

Gavin DeBecker has a great book that I encourage everyone to read - it's a

pretty good introduction into " personal profiling " and training yourself

to trust your instincts with regards to people, places and situations of

all types... it's called " The Gift of Fear " and I pesonally think that

every emergency responder should have to read it, because it teaches you

how to trust the hair on the back of your neck, the feeling in your guy,

and to react smartly without being in fear.

Mike

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/04 10:26:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

hbarber@... writes:

Thanks to the system for letting more and more crazy folks out on the

street.This guy is harmless when compared to others that are wandering our

streets. We all have someone in our area that has the six pak but lost the

plastic rings that hold it together.PD is probably tired of dealing with

this guy because nothing can really been done to him or for him. My

suggestion is to keep a eye on the guy and pray he is the worst you will

see. I would however take the time after a call and speak with him and

voice your concerns. Have you spoken with the person about your concerns

will be the first question ask of you. Be respectful, in reality, he has

just as much right on the street as you do. He is a bystander, a crazy

bystander, but still a bystander. He sounds sane compared to some folks I

know in EMS.

I agree with Henry completely.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/13/04 10:26:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

hbarber@... writes:

Thanks to the system for letting more and more crazy folks out on the

street.This guy is harmless when compared to others that are wandering our

streets. We all have someone in our area that has the six pak but lost the

plastic rings that hold it together.PD is probably tired of dealing with

this guy because nothing can really been done to him or for him. My

suggestion is to keep a eye on the guy and pray he is the worst you will

see. I would however take the time after a call and speak with him and

voice your concerns. Have you spoken with the person about your concerns

will be the first question ask of you. Be respectful, in reality, he has

just as much right on the street as you do. He is a bystander, a crazy

bystander, but still a bystander. He sounds sane compared to some folks I

know in EMS.

I agree with Henry completely.