Re: Where to go next?

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

What dose of TD DMPS are you using, how often are you applying it, and

for how many days?

It sounds to me like the dose of DMPS is too high. There could also

be an element of improper application (which I don't know because I

don't recall how you are using it).

I had similiar symptoms when I was using a dose of DMPS that was too

high. When I lowered the dose I was fine. But I am using oral DMPS

and it is much easier to get consistant doses orally.

I'm sure that if you keep talking to us we will be able to help you to

resolve the problem. EDTA suppositories, NDF plus and chlorella will

do nothing to help you and could cause you a lot of harm.

J

>

> I've been getting really bad headaches, achy muscles, ear aches,

> moodiness, today I've been feeling light headed to the point where

> I've almost fainted, and every time I stop the TD DMPS I notice a

> direct connection to tics that last a couple days after my last

> usage of dmps. I'm really confused with what to do because I don't

> know if it's that heavy metals are being mobilized, yeast is

> becoming a large problem, I'm sensitive to dmps, or if it's

> something else. Any ideas?

>

> It's disappointing to me because my chelation doctor does not stay

> up on my case. I don't know what to do because if the heavy metals

> are being mobilized and I'm currently excreting them and it's rough

> because of that I want to keep going and get to the other side. If

> it's not that and I'm sensitive to DMPS or something then maybe it's

> time to try something else like DMSA, EDTA Suppositories, NDF Plus,

> just plain Chlorella, only MB12 shots, or something. This is getting

> frustrating because I hate feeling like this. Does anyone have any

> suggestions?

>

> At what point do you decide that this may not be the right chelator

> for you and switch? How do you know if your having trouble

> tolerating the chelation agent or if it's just detox signs?

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

I'm applying TD DMPS every 4 hours wtih 4 drops, 3 days on and 4 days

off. Each drop contains 1 mg of DMPS. Isn't that relative low even

with Cutler's protocol? Applying every 8 hours causes a rash for me,

but every 4 hours doesn't.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

>

> I'm applying TD DMPS every 4 hours wtih 4 drops, 3 days on and 4 days

> off. Each drop contains 1 mg of DMPS. Isn't that relative low even

> with Cutler's protocol?

That does seem like a very low dose. Does it say on the bottle what

other ingredients it contains besides the DMPS?

I would still try cutting the dose by half and see if that helps.

Cutler does not recommend using TD DMPS for various reasons. His

protocol is for oral DMPS. But if TD DMPS is used it is best to adapt

the doseage schedule to his protocol (as you have done).

> Applying every 8 hours causes a rash for me,

Rashes are common with transdermally applied medications. That's one

reason to consider oral.

J

> but every 4 hours doesn't.

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, it contains glutathione. It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS. 4 mg

of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in half.

That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

forever with that small of dosage.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Yes, it contains glutathione. It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS. 4 mg

of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in half.

That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

forever with that small of dosage.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

Yes, it contains glutathione. It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS. 4 mg

of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in half.

That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

forever with that small of dosage.

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, it contains glutathione.

Transdermally applied glutathione can be problematic for some people.

That may be one thing contributing to your problems.

> It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS.

There are other things in Buttar's TD DMPS. There has to be a

vehicle. I don't know what it is. There is also a special ingredient

that he won't disclose what it is.

> 4 mg

> of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in >half.

> That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

> forever with that small of dosage.

Many of us started at very low doses and have been able to increase

the dose with time.

If I remember correctly the reason that you chose TD DMPS was because

your doctor was willing to prescribe it? I wonder if you might be

able to convince him that there is something in the TD DMPS that you

may be sensitive to and get him to prescribe a trial of oral DMPS, at

a low level like 10-15 mg per dose.

I had problems with oral DMPS at first because I tried a dose that was

too high. Once I found the right dose I found that I love the stuff.

I feel so much better while taking it that I don't want to stop.

J

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, it contains glutathione.

Transdermally applied glutathione can be problematic for some people.

That may be one thing contributing to your problems.

> It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS.

There are other things in Buttar's TD DMPS. There has to be a

vehicle. I don't know what it is. There is also a special ingredient

that he won't disclose what it is.

> 4 mg

> of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in >half.

> That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

> forever with that small of dosage.

Many of us started at very low doses and have been able to increase

the dose with time.

If I remember correctly the reason that you chose TD DMPS was because

your doctor was willing to prescribe it? I wonder if you might be

able to convince him that there is something in the TD DMPS that you

may be sensitive to and get him to prescribe a trial of oral DMPS, at

a low level like 10-15 mg per dose.

I had problems with oral DMPS at first because I tried a dose that was

too high. Once I found the right dose I found that I love the stuff.

I feel so much better while taking it that I don't want to stop.

J

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Yes, it contains glutathione.

Transdermally applied glutathione can be problematic for some people.

That may be one thing contributing to your problems.

> It's Dr. Rashid Buttar's TD DMPS.

There are other things in Buttar's TD DMPS. There has to be a

vehicle. I don't know what it is. There is also a special ingredient

that he won't disclose what it is.

> 4 mg

> of glutathione in each drop also. I'll try cutting the dose in >half.

> That puts me down to like 12 mg. I think I'm going to be at this

> forever with that small of dosage.

Many of us started at very low doses and have been able to increase

the dose with time.

If I remember correctly the reason that you chose TD DMPS was because

your doctor was willing to prescribe it? I wonder if you might be

able to convince him that there is something in the TD DMPS that you

may be sensitive to and get him to prescribe a trial of oral DMPS, at

a low level like 10-15 mg per dose.

I had problems with oral DMPS at first because I tried a dose that was

too high. Once I found the right dose I found that I love the stuff.

I feel so much better while taking it that I don't want to stop.

J

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

I'm switching doctors and I'll be talking to the doctor today that I'm

switching to. We may try switching to oral DMPS. Where does everyone

get their oral DMPS from?

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

I'm switching doctors and I'll be talking to the doctor today that I'm

switching to. We may try switching to oral DMPS. Where does everyone

get their oral DMPS from?

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

I'm switching doctors and I'll be talking to the doctor today that I'm

switching to. We may try switching to oral DMPS. Where does everyone

get their oral DMPS from?

Carolyn

[Guest guest]

I have a few general thoughts, take them with a grain of salt, I don't

have enough experience to point to you the most likely causes for your

symptoms, but there are a few things that happen to us mercury toxic

people that are worth checking.

Like others pointed out, it may be intolerance to TD DMPS or even to

DMPS. It can be that you are taking too much of the chelator, or that

the symptoms it brings need to be compensated by supplements, or that

yeast is a issue. I used to get headaches when I started chelating, so

that is a normal side effect, but this doesn't mean you shouldn't do

all you can to avoid these side effects.

There are a few compounding pharmacies that offer DMPS, though you

need Rx. After a few months of DMPS, I started using DMSA, cheaper,

you don't need Rx, but it is a rougher ride.

I wonder what your supplement protocol is, what are you taking? Things

that helped me with a touch of fibromyalgia (you know, all those

aching muscles), was potasium, magnesium, primrose and CLO oils. I

would consider yeast too, you may need to check into taking

probiotics. Diet may help, specially cutting dairy and gluten or

taking enzymes.

When I chelate, I started taking either vitamim C or milk thisle every

dose, now that my brain has a little less mercury, I got a bright

idea, and now I take both vitamin C and milk thisle with every dose.

Raquel

>

> I'm applying TD DMPS every 4 hours wtih 4 drops, 3 days on and 4

days

> off. Each drop contains 1 mg of DMPS. Isn't that relative low even

> with Cutler's protocol? Applying every 8 hours causes a rash for

me,

> but every 4 hours doesn't.

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

I have a few general thoughts, take them with a grain of salt, I don't

have enough experience to point to you the most likely causes for your

symptoms, but there are a few things that happen to us mercury toxic

people that are worth checking.

Like others pointed out, it may be intolerance to TD DMPS or even to

DMPS. It can be that you are taking too much of the chelator, or that

the symptoms it brings need to be compensated by supplements, or that

yeast is a issue. I used to get headaches when I started chelating, so

that is a normal side effect, but this doesn't mean you shouldn't do

all you can to avoid these side effects.

There are a few compounding pharmacies that offer DMPS, though you

need Rx. After a few months of DMPS, I started using DMSA, cheaper,

you don't need Rx, but it is a rougher ride.

I wonder what your supplement protocol is, what are you taking? Things

that helped me with a touch of fibromyalgia (you know, all those

aching muscles), was potasium, magnesium, primrose and CLO oils. I

would consider yeast too, you may need to check into taking

probiotics. Diet may help, specially cutting dairy and gluten or

taking enzymes.

When I chelate, I started taking either vitamim C or milk thisle every

dose, now that my brain has a little less mercury, I got a bright

idea, and now I take both vitamin C and milk thisle with every dose.

Raquel

>

> I'm applying TD DMPS every 4 hours wtih 4 drops, 3 days on and 4

days

> off. Each drop contains 1 mg of DMPS. Isn't that relative low even

> with Cutler's protocol? Applying every 8 hours causes a rash for

me,

> but every 4 hours doesn't.

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

I have a few general thoughts, take them with a grain of salt, I don't

have enough experience to point to you the most likely causes for your

symptoms, but there are a few things that happen to us mercury toxic

people that are worth checking.

Like others pointed out, it may be intolerance to TD DMPS or even to

DMPS. It can be that you are taking too much of the chelator, or that

the symptoms it brings need to be compensated by supplements, or that

yeast is a issue. I used to get headaches when I started chelating, so

that is a normal side effect, but this doesn't mean you shouldn't do

all you can to avoid these side effects.

There are a few compounding pharmacies that offer DMPS, though you

need Rx. After a few months of DMPS, I started using DMSA, cheaper,

you don't need Rx, but it is a rougher ride.

I wonder what your supplement protocol is, what are you taking? Things

that helped me with a touch of fibromyalgia (you know, all those

aching muscles), was potasium, magnesium, primrose and CLO oils. I

would consider yeast too, you may need to check into taking

probiotics. Diet may help, specially cutting dairy and gluten or

taking enzymes.

When I chelate, I started taking either vitamim C or milk thisle every

dose, now that my brain has a little less mercury, I got a bright

idea, and now I take both vitamin C and milk thisle with every dose.

Raquel

>

> I'm applying TD DMPS every 4 hours wtih 4 drops, 3 days on and 4

days

> off. Each drop contains 1 mg of DMPS. Isn't that relative low even

> with Cutler's protocol? Applying every 8 hours causes a rash for

me,

> but every 4 hours doesn't.

>

> Carolyn

>