Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Rhonda- My husband is a physician too and at one time did suggest RAI (he was an intern when I got sick and thought RAI was a perfect sol'n-so I did it) since my doctors told me I had to have it. Now, after all the problems I've had, he would never consider letting his children have it, or his mother, or his sister, etc... In fact, he tells his patients when he diagnoses them with Graves' that they will probably be told they have to have it. Then he tells them why they don't. If more doctors had to live with the consequences of RAI, as my husband did, I have no doubt that they'd be a little more cautious about recommending it. My husband never recommends it anymore (I suppose there could be a circumstance where he would but he diagnoses Graves' pretty often and it hasn't come up yet). I sure don't mind your venting. I'm so angry, sad and regretful today (yes, I know it doesn't do any good but I don't know how to stop it) that I can't stop myself from complaining. Take care, > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Rhonda- My husband is a physician too and at one time did suggest RAI (he was an intern when I got sick and thought RAI was a perfect sol'n-so I did it) since my doctors told me I had to have it. Now, after all the problems I've had, he would never consider letting his children have it, or his mother, or his sister, etc... In fact, he tells his patients when he diagnoses them with Graves' that they will probably be told they have to have it. Then he tells them why they don't. If more doctors had to live with the consequences of RAI, as my husband did, I have no doubt that they'd be a little more cautious about recommending it. My husband never recommends it anymore (I suppose there could be a circumstance where he would but he diagnoses Graves' pretty often and it hasn't come up yet). I sure don't mind your venting. I'm so angry, sad and regretful today (yes, I know it doesn't do any good but I don't know how to stop it) that I can't stop myself from complaining. Take care, > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Rhonda- My husband is a physician too and at one time did suggest RAI (he was an intern when I got sick and thought RAI was a perfect sol'n-so I did it) since my doctors told me I had to have it. Now, after all the problems I've had, he would never consider letting his children have it, or his mother, or his sister, etc... In fact, he tells his patients when he diagnoses them with Graves' that they will probably be told they have to have it. Then he tells them why they don't. If more doctors had to live with the consequences of RAI, as my husband did, I have no doubt that they'd be a little more cautious about recommending it. My husband never recommends it anymore (I suppose there could be a circumstance where he would but he diagnoses Graves' pretty often and it hasn't come up yet). I sure don't mind your venting. I'm so angry, sad and regretful today (yes, I know it doesn't do any good but I don't know how to stop it) that I can't stop myself from complaining. Take care, > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > Rhonda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " .... That's precisely the kind of flippancy from the medical community that I was referring to. Who gives a rat's *** about cake and coffee when it comes to health issues? How condescending! Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " .... That's precisely the kind of flippancy from the medical community that I was referring to. Who gives a rat's *** about cake and coffee when it comes to health issues? How condescending! Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 " That's another reason to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " .... That's precisely the kind of flippancy from the medical community that I was referring to. Who gives a rat's *** about cake and coffee when it comes to health issues? How condescending! Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. Take care! Rhonda BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. Take care! Rhonda BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. Take care! Rhonda BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi , Does Tom know other doctors who know RAI is a bad bad thing? If so, I have an off the wall thought for him, as physican(s) maybe THEY should write a book on why NOT to have it...hmmmmm my doc does not do RAI anymore unless cancer is involved...maybe I will pose that to her too. I just think a book by doctors on why not to do this would make a heck of an impact. Any more and more doctors are coming to this conclusion...just not fast enough. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi , Does Tom know other doctors who know RAI is a bad bad thing? If so, I have an off the wall thought for him, as physican(s) maybe THEY should write a book on why NOT to have it...hmmmmm my doc does not do RAI anymore unless cancer is involved...maybe I will pose that to her too. I just think a book by doctors on why not to do this would make a heck of an impact. Any more and more doctors are coming to this conclusion...just not fast enough. Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Rhonda, Am addressing your BTW from your second post first >>>BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who >>>was glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I >>>complain more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone >>>who actually was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that >>>step.<<< Oh sure I have heard people extole the virtures of RAI, but only in the first 2/3 months after having it when they are still to new to understand what is coming down the line. I read a post somewhere from one of those people who was so grateful to have had the RAI, then posted 2 years later on how terrible she felt and how her doctors wouldn't listen to her...Many of the problems caused by hypOT that we feel don't happen for awhile. In my case, mine were immediate. The doctor (first endo, now fired) promised me that if I had the RAI that in six months I would feel so *good* I would see just how sick I had been...liar liar pants on fire...that is the only thing I can think to say to her now. Don't worry about complaining...we all do that at times When you find a great doc that you love, trust and respect who will work with you, your will be giving stories of praise then too For your original post...first question. Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) Thyroid Storm is all I can think of and having been in thyroid storm I do know how dangerous that is, it almost took my life...but even in thyroid storm, 8 days in the hospital (before signing myself out) with congestive heart failure from it, I was still left undiagnosed!!! Had I stayed in the hospital I think I would be dead now...had they actually diagnosed me, they probably would have rushed me into RAI while in storm and killed me anyhow. >>>>Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? <<<< Excellent question, if >>>>there is a next time with this guy, ask him why kill the messenger when >>>>the messenger AIN'T sick! This is an auto immune disease NOT a disease >>>>of the thyroid, the poor thyroid is what is being attacked for pities >>>>sake! >>>but if I'm on to my symptoms, getting it checked and taking the meds, can >>>I still go into crisis?<<<< I suppose there is a slim to nothing chance on this, but I really don't see how, maybe someone else can tell us with certainty. But the PTU is suppressing your from making excess hormone so how can you have storm without excess hormone. >>>I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the >>>positive side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation >>>treatment when you go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is >>>not my point, so I told him) and then started to address my actual >>>question, but couldn't really come up with a list of side effects since >>>he said it was " case by case " but he would give me a list should I decide >>>to do it.<<< Okay, can *I* SLAP this guy for you? My God, he doesn't even listen. And case by case...BULL! He is probably one of those docs who only will consider the 8/9 short symptoms on *their* list as actual symptoms and would still try to explain them away as something else and give you prozac or something! >>>Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he >>> " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If >>>my mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same >>>treatment. " -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't >>>care what you suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. >>>since I told him I did not want it at this time.<<< I wouldn't accept that he is capable of *specializing* in Graves, he is obviously NOT qualified to do so and is too lazy to monitor patients who will not do RAI so he resorts to scare tactics and bullying. I am being very serious here. My first endo refused to answer any questions, I would just get a 'shhhh you are paying me to do the worrying, you don't need to concern yourself with that information'...boy was I naive then! Now I actually think she may not have known the answers to questions...I didn't have diabetes. I think if I had to go see your doctor I would ask him how much of his portfolio was wrapped up with the company who makes the I 131 that they use to kill our thyroids and screw up the quality of our lives. But then, I can be a sarcastic witch <g>...and I know first hand how upset doctors can get when you ask them about their stocks. I have done it twice! I can also tell you it hurts your relationship with them, but by the time I got to the point of asking this question I had none anyhow. For the short remainder of time I remained with them while looking for someone new, neither of those doctors every again brought up prozac to me or flu vaccines 0- >>>I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, >>>for all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide.<<< Do you know what labs he did run, and does he give you a hard time about getting copies? >>>BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't >>>need to watch the salt, or caffeine....<<< Then why was he threatening you with storm? The SNAKE! (Other names are going through my head but I won't put them in group.) >>>then went on to say " That's another reason to get it done because you >>>don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the >>>rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, apparently I don't have to >>>worry about it anyway since he had just told me I could have caffeine, >>>etc.<<< OMG...how did you keep a straight face when he said this? Did you tell him you don't worry about having cake and coffee at dinner now so there really is no need to bring up RAI again? What an arrogant, lazy, poor excuse for a doctor this man is! He should not have the right to be called a doctor! I hope you are going to look for someone else. If you are anywhere in the Western NY area let me know, I have an excellent doctor in Buffalo and a friend of mine has another good one up in that area! Take care, I am so sorry you had to be this disappointed today. You hang tough! *HUGZ* Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Rhonda, Am addressing your BTW from your second post first >>>BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who >>>was glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I >>>complain more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone >>>who actually was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that >>>step.<<< Oh sure I have heard people extole the virtures of RAI, but only in the first 2/3 months after having it when they are still to new to understand what is coming down the line. I read a post somewhere from one of those people who was so grateful to have had the RAI, then posted 2 years later on how terrible she felt and how her doctors wouldn't listen to her...Many of the problems caused by hypOT that we feel don't happen for awhile. In my case, mine were immediate. The doctor (first endo, now fired) promised me that if I had the RAI that in six months I would feel so *good* I would see just how sick I had been...liar liar pants on fire...that is the only thing I can think to say to her now. Don't worry about complaining...we all do that at times When you find a great doc that you love, trust and respect who will work with you, your will be giving stories of praise then too For your original post...first question. Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) Thyroid Storm is all I can think of and having been in thyroid storm I do know how dangerous that is, it almost took my life...but even in thyroid storm, 8 days in the hospital (before signing myself out) with congestive heart failure from it, I was still left undiagnosed!!! Had I stayed in the hospital I think I would be dead now...had they actually diagnosed me, they probably would have rushed me into RAI while in storm and killed me anyhow. >>>>Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? <<<< Excellent question, if >>>>there is a next time with this guy, ask him why kill the messenger when >>>>the messenger AIN'T sick! This is an auto immune disease NOT a disease >>>>of the thyroid, the poor thyroid is what is being attacked for pities >>>>sake! >>>but if I'm on to my symptoms, getting it checked and taking the meds, can >>>I still go into crisis?<<<< I suppose there is a slim to nothing chance on this, but I really don't see how, maybe someone else can tell us with certainty. But the PTU is suppressing your from making excess hormone so how can you have storm without excess hormone. >>>I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the >>>positive side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation >>>treatment when you go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is >>>not my point, so I told him) and then started to address my actual >>>question, but couldn't really come up with a list of side effects since >>>he said it was " case by case " but he would give me a list should I decide >>>to do it.<<< Okay, can *I* SLAP this guy for you? My God, he doesn't even listen. And case by case...BULL! He is probably one of those docs who only will consider the 8/9 short symptoms on *their* list as actual symptoms and would still try to explain them away as something else and give you prozac or something! >>>Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he >>> " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If >>>my mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same >>>treatment. " -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't >>>care what you suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. >>>since I told him I did not want it at this time.<<< I wouldn't accept that he is capable of *specializing* in Graves, he is obviously NOT qualified to do so and is too lazy to monitor patients who will not do RAI so he resorts to scare tactics and bullying. I am being very serious here. My first endo refused to answer any questions, I would just get a 'shhhh you are paying me to do the worrying, you don't need to concern yourself with that information'...boy was I naive then! Now I actually think she may not have known the answers to questions...I didn't have diabetes. I think if I had to go see your doctor I would ask him how much of his portfolio was wrapped up with the company who makes the I 131 that they use to kill our thyroids and screw up the quality of our lives. But then, I can be a sarcastic witch <g>...and I know first hand how upset doctors can get when you ask them about their stocks. I have done it twice! I can also tell you it hurts your relationship with them, but by the time I got to the point of asking this question I had none anyhow. For the short remainder of time I remained with them while looking for someone new, neither of those doctors every again brought up prozac to me or flu vaccines 0- >>>I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, >>>for all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide.<<< Do you know what labs he did run, and does he give you a hard time about getting copies? >>>BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't >>>need to watch the salt, or caffeine....<<< Then why was he threatening you with storm? The SNAKE! (Other names are going through my head but I won't put them in group.) >>>then went on to say " That's another reason to get it done because you >>>don't want to be worrying about having cake and coffee at dinner for the >>>rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, apparently I don't have to >>>worry about it anyway since he had just told me I could have caffeine, >>>etc.<<< OMG...how did you keep a straight face when he said this? Did you tell him you don't worry about having cake and coffee at dinner now so there really is no need to bring up RAI again? What an arrogant, lazy, poor excuse for a doctor this man is! He should not have the right to be called a doctor! I hope you are going to look for someone else. If you are anywhere in the Western NY area let me know, I have an excellent doctor in Buffalo and a friend of mine has another good one up in that area! Take care, I am so sorry you had to be this disappointed today. You hang tough! *HUGZ* Jody _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 I " shared " our symptom list with my endo as part of his Christmas present (along with Elaine's book). Educating doctors is our business, our ONLY business (oops, that's not quite right, but sometimes it seems that way!). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:53:20 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. > prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp > on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. > Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more > dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have > problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but > I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head > and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to > me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you > know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a > good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? > Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for > years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that > then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, > getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive > side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you > go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told > him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come > up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he > would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he > " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my > mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " > -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you > suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I > did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for > all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need > to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason > to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and > coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, > apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I > could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > > Rhonda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 I " shared " our symptom list with my endo as part of his Christmas present (along with Elaine's book). Educating doctors is our business, our ONLY business (oops, that's not quite right, but sometimes it seems that way!). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:53:20 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. > prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp > on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. > Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more > dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have > problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but > I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head > and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to > me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you > know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a > good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? > Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for > years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that > then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, > getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive > side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you > go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told > him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come > up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he > would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he > " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my > mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " > -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you > suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I > did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for > all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need > to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason > to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and > coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, > apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I > could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > > Rhonda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 I " shared " our symptom list with my endo as part of his Christmas present (along with Elaine's book). Educating doctors is our business, our ONLY business (oops, that's not quite right, but sometimes it seems that way!). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 16:53:20 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Have to vent and KNEW you all wouldn't mind. I went back to my former gen. > prac. today, who I really liked before, now I'm frustrated. All he could harp > on was how dangerous is to be Hyper, and that I should radiate the thyroid. > Even though I mentioned the meds either way he went on and on about much more > dangerous Hyper was and that I could go into a Thyrotoxic Crisis (?) and have > problems in less than 24 hours and even die. Freaking me out of course, but > I've learned a lot and knew some of the risks. So, I politely nodded my head > and really listened to him -- a courtesy I certainly hope will be returned to > me by him. > > Later, I asked him if this Crisis is something I had to worry about today..you > know dying tonight or something, and he said no because my thyroid is in a > good place (or something like that) and the PTU controls it. Well, then, duh? > Why should I kill it if it's okay on PTU? I'm not going to go off it for > years and have all the symptoms and not address them. IF I would do that > then, yes, I could see a crisis and death, but if I'm on to my symptoms, > getting it checked and taking the meds, can I still go into crisis? > > I then asked him, since he goes on and on over and over about the positive > side of Hypo v. Hyper, about the bad effects from radiation treatment when you > go Hypo. He started on about the radiation (which is not my point, so I told > him) and then started to address my actual question, but couldn't really come > up with a list of side effects since he said it was " case by case " but he > would give me a list should I decide to do it. > > Now, granted, he is not an endo, but it is of special interest and so he > " specializes " I guess you say in it. He even gave me the line about " If my > mother, father, sister, or I had Graves I would suggest the same treatment. " > -- and quite honestly I thought in my head, I really don't care what you > suggest to them. Sorry, but it was just too strong, esp. since I told him I > did not want it at this time. > > I'm looking forward to seeing my results next week. Thanks, as always, for > all your answers....and in advance for any help you can provide. > > BTW, he said I could exercise because my heart rate is fine and I don't need > to watch the salt, or caffeine....then went on to say " That's another reason > to get it done because you don't want to be worrying about having cake and > coffee at dinner for the rest of your life...blah, blah, blah " ....well, > apparently I don't have to worry about it anyway since he had just told me I > could have caffeine, etc. Okay, that's it....anxiously awaiting your input. > > > Rhonda > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Rhonda, I'm told that " the majority of people who have RAI have no problems, only the " cranks " get on lists like this:_). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:05:38 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: Re: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling > guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm > frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes > out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, > guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate > the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. > > Take care! > > Rhonda > > BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was > glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain > more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually > was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. > > R. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Rhonda, I'm told that " the majority of people who have RAI have no problems, only the " cranks " get on lists like this:_). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:05:38 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: Re: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling > guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm > frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes > out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, > guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate > the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. > > Take care! > > Rhonda > > BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was > glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain > more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually > was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. > > R. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Rhonda, I'm told that " the majority of people who have RAI have no problems, only the " cranks " get on lists like this:_). Terry > > Reply-To: graves_support > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:05:38 -0500 > To: <graves_support > > Subject: Re: So frustrated with doctor appoint. today > > Thank you ! I have been checking in here every few minutes, and feeling > guilty about being so negative about only a few things he said...but I'm > frustrated about a lot with this, esp. the loss of control, and so it comes > out in long-winded over-stated run-ons about one little visit. LOL Oh well, > guess you know where I am coming from...thanks again and I really appreciate > the insight from the physicians pt. of view too. > > Take care! > > Rhonda > > BTW, have you (or anyone else who might read this) EVER known anyone who was > glad to have had the radiation? Just wondering, since I know that I complain > more than I praise, and I would really like to talk to someone who actually > was happy (if they exist is I guess) to have taken that step. > > R. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Terry, What was your doctors reaction to the book and list, has he given you any feedback yet? Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Terry, What was your doctors reaction to the book and list, has he given you any feedback yet? Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Hi Terry, What was your doctors reaction to the book and list, has he given you any feedback yet? Jody _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Gee Terry, I guess I am a crank then ;-) Cranky Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Gee Terry, I guess I am a crank then ;-) Cranky Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Gee Terry, I guess I am a crank then ;-) Cranky Jody _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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