Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 I am sorry Rob- my email program automatically includes them. And I dont need to be educated on how to do something " IE " learn to edit your freakin replies to the group, so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quorted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! " .. I have learned to keep emails intact after they have been admitted into evidence in civil and criminal cases. I do not edit my emails for that very reason. I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it don't delete it. I do not appreciate being told to " learn to edit your freakin replies " , etc. The way it comes across is that it is just downright rude, and quite frankly, arrogant as hell. J. Hoskins Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Correction- " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it don't delete it " , Should read " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it DELETE it " . Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Correction- " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it don't delete it " , Should read " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it DELETE it " . Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 You know, what the issue is there is that your approach was all wrong. It's like a sloppy medic walking into someone's home smacking gum, telling the patient that their complaint isn't sincere or legitimate. What Mr. Hoskins is saying is that a little more respect will get YOU a little more respect. Actually, to be honest, I've never seen a post from you on here and as far as I can remember back, people " reply " to these threads so some of us who constantly play catch-up will know what the heck is going on. It really doesn't bother me that much. Anyway, we are all so very sorry that we have offended you. Bobby Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 You know, what the issue is there is that your approach was all wrong. It's like a sloppy medic walking into someone's home smacking gum, telling the patient that their complaint isn't sincere or legitimate. What Mr. Hoskins is saying is that a little more respect will get YOU a little more respect. Actually, to be honest, I've never seen a post from you on here and as far as I can remember back, people " reply " to these threads so some of us who constantly play catch-up will know what the heck is going on. It really doesn't bother me that much. Anyway, we are all so very sorry that we have offended you. Bobby Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Thanks for the input. It is a matter of opinion- you have yours and I have mine, and guess what--- mine is gonna stay the same. For your information, not that it is any of your business, I am a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit, where emails are being admitted into evidence- and I am under an order not to modify them in anyway, shape, nor form- IE editing. To do so, would mean that I have violated a judges order. Thank you for your time, and understanding, HRH. Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > I do not appreciate being told to " learn to edit your freakin replies " , etc. The way it comes across is that it is just downright rude, and quite frankly, arrogant as hell. So does not editing your replies, except you're being rude and arrogant as hell to about fifteen-hundred people. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Thanks for the input. It is a matter of opinion- you have yours and I have mine, and guess what--- mine is gonna stay the same. For your information, not that it is any of your business, I am a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit, where emails are being admitted into evidence- and I am under an order not to modify them in anyway, shape, nor form- IE editing. To do so, would mean that I have violated a judges order. Thank you for your time, and understanding, HRH. Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > I do not appreciate being told to " learn to edit your freakin replies " , etc. The way it comes across is that it is just downright rude, and quite frankly, arrogant as hell. So does not editing your replies, except you're being rude and arrogant as hell to about fifteen-hundred people. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 Thanks for the input. It is a matter of opinion- you have yours and I have mine, and guess what--- mine is gonna stay the same. For your information, not that it is any of your business, I am a plaintiff in a federal lawsuit, where emails are being admitted into evidence- and I am under an order not to modify them in anyway, shape, nor form- IE editing. To do so, would mean that I have violated a judges order. Thank you for your time, and understanding, HRH. Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > I do not appreciate being told to " learn to edit your freakin replies " , etc. The way it comes across is that it is just downright rude, and quite frankly, arrogant as hell. So does not editing your replies, except you're being rude and arrogant as hell to about fifteen-hundred people. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 > You know, what the issue is there is that your approach was all wrong. Nice try, but irrelevant. See, I am not the first to ask this. It has been asked here before in a more congenial way, yet the result was the same. Self absorbed smart asses told that guy to screw off too. Your apology is accepted. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 > You know, what the issue is there is that your approach was all wrong. Nice try, but irrelevant. See, I am not the first to ask this. It has been asked here before in a more congenial way, yet the result was the same. Self absorbed smart asses told that guy to screw off too. Your apology is accepted. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Posted July 22, 2004 > You know, what the issue is there is that your approach was all wrong. Nice try, but irrelevant. See, I am not the first to ask this. It has been asked here before in a more congenial way, yet the result was the same. Self absorbed smart asses told that guy to screw off too. Your apology is accepted. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Can't you feel the love? (lol) If you can read this, thank a teacher If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier Larry RN LP EMSI -- " Bobby Brinson " wrote: Hey, I know what you mean. You know, though, Mr. Rob the Einstein, would have loved to correct you and your " freakn " post. HAHA I know, let's keep this post going for a few days, that'll get him going. With love, of course, Bobby Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Correction- " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it don't delete it " , Should read " I am not trying to be a butt-head, but if you don't like it DELETE it " . Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? If you can read this, thank a teacher If you can comment freely on this, thank a soldier Larry RN LP EMSI -- " dustdevil31 " wrote: > I do not appreciate being told to " learn to edit your freakin replies " , etc. The way it comes across is that it is just downright rude, and quite frankly, arrogant as hell. So does not editing your replies, except you're being rude and arrogant as hell to about fifteen-hundred people. Rob Quote
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Here is a a suggestion. login to yahoogroups and read the messages on the server itself- dont have to worry about downloads, no need to have to read a digest- just pick and choose what you want to read.... Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > > Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? > <snip> Because the rest of us suffer in silence. The " problem " is really the way each member receives the posting to the list server. I receive post by " digest " ..this means I get one email with 25 posts. If I hit " reply " to post a reply to any particular thread or post, I will also send those same 25 posts back to the list server. Because I realize this, I can alter my email by snipping unrelated information or I can go to to the Yahoo!groups page, go to the EMS list, select the one post I wish to reply to and do so....without sending those 1500 people a copy of an email containing 25 posts. I didn't alter my email( as in the federal case reference), I didn't get on somebody's nerves and most importantly...I don't have to scroll forever through the next " digest " from the listserver. By the way...this is not a slap at anybody that has participated in this thread...just my point off view. Steve Quote
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Here is a a suggestion. login to yahoogroups and read the messages on the server itself- dont have to worry about downloads, no need to have to read a digest- just pick and choose what you want to read.... Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > > Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? > <snip> Because the rest of us suffer in silence. The " problem " is really the way each member receives the posting to the list server. I receive post by " digest " ..this means I get one email with 25 posts. If I hit " reply " to post a reply to any particular thread or post, I will also send those same 25 posts back to the list server. Because I realize this, I can alter my email by snipping unrelated information or I can go to to the Yahoo!groups page, go to the EMS list, select the one post I wish to reply to and do so....without sending those 1500 people a copy of an email containing 25 posts. I didn't alter my email( as in the federal case reference), I didn't get on somebody's nerves and most importantly...I don't have to scroll forever through the next " digest " from the listserver. By the way...this is not a slap at anybody that has participated in this thread...just my point off view. Steve Quote
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Posted July 23, 2004 Here is a a suggestion. login to yahoogroups and read the messages on the server itself- dont have to worry about downloads, no need to have to read a digest- just pick and choose what you want to read.... Re: Spam Alert: Come on, guys! > > Of the 1500 people you mention, why has there been ONLY one complaint? > <snip> Because the rest of us suffer in silence. The " problem " is really the way each member receives the posting to the list server. I receive post by " digest " ..this means I get one email with 25 posts. If I hit " reply " to post a reply to any particular thread or post, I will also send those same 25 posts back to the list server. Because I realize this, I can alter my email by snipping unrelated information or I can go to to the Yahoo!groups page, go to the EMS list, select the one post I wish to reply to and do so....without sending those 1500 people a copy of an email containing 25 posts. I didn't alter my email( as in the federal case reference), I didn't get on somebody's nerves and most importantly...I don't have to scroll forever through the next " digest " from the listserver. By the way...this is not a slap at anybody that has participated in this thread...just my point off view. Steve Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Posted July 24, 2004 If you don include the original some people forget what you are talking about what ever. Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Posted July 24, 2004 If you don include the original some people forget what you are talking about what ever. Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2004 Report Posted July 24, 2004 If you don include the original some people forget what you are talking about what ever. Spam Alert: Come on, guys! Learn to edit your freakin replies to the group so you don't keep repeating the three feet of quoted messages everytime you reply like I am doing this one time! It really jams up the digests! Rob > Temporary Flight Restriction NOTAMs > TX > 4/7245 - FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS, JULY 23, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407231710 (1210 > LOCAL 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407231815 (1315 LOCAL 07/23/04). WIE UNTIL UFN > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7249 - PART 1 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, > 2004. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN 30 NMR BLW > FL180 OF 313445N/0973200W OR THE ACT241014 FROM 0407231735 (1235 LOCAL > 07/23/04) UNTIL 0407291810 (1310 LOCAL 07/29/04). A. ALL AIRCRAFT > OPERATIONS WITHIN 10 NMR ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. LAW ENFORCEMENT > AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET > SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES > (POTUS) AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND CARGO AIRCRAFT > ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM WACO RGNL (ACT) AIRPORT, TX. THESE > AIRCRAFT SHALL AVOID PROHIBITED AREA 49 (P-49) UNLESS THEY RECEIVE USSS > AUTHORIZATION BY CALLING OR 4678. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN > THE TFR, ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES SHALL COORDINATE WITH > THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO AVOID POTENTIAL > DELAYS. B. WI! THIN THE > AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR SHALL BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH > A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN END PART 1 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > PART 2 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL > (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT SHALL BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO > DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR > EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH > ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING > AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR > DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. > AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT > APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, > ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP > DUSTING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT > OPERATIONS, AND COMMERCIAL CARGO/CARRIER OPERATIONS THAT FAIL TO MEET OR > EXCEED THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION S DOMESTIC SECURITY > INTEGRATED PROGRAM STANDARDS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED > AIRCRAFT OPERATORS B! ASED IN > THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE BY CALLING > OR 4678. 6. ALL AIRCRAFT DEPARTING FROM PRIVATE > AIRPORTS/AIRSTRIPS MUST BE END PART 2 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > PART 3 OF 3 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS CRAWFORD, TEXAS, JULY 23-29, 2004. ON > A HEADING AWAY FROM P-49. 7. ALL MEDICAL FLIGHT OPERATION COMPANIES > SHALL COORDINATE WITH THE USSS PRIOR TO THIS NOTAM GOING INTO EFFECT TO > AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS WHEN THE NOTAM IS IN EFFECT. 8. ALL FORT HOOD > U.S. ARMY FLIGHTS WILL BE PROVIDED DISCRETE BEACON CODES BY LOCAL ATC > AND ALLOWED TO OPERATE NORMALLY WITHIN THE FORT HOOD AIRSPACE. 9. > APPROVED MILITARY FLIGHTS WILL BE PERMITTED TO CONDUCT PRACTICE FLIGHT > OPERATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF WACO RGNL AIRPORT WHILE UNDER THE > DIRECTION OF ATC. CONSULT WITH LOCAL ATC FOR DETAILS. C. FLIGHT > OPERATIONS ARE AUTHORIZED FOR ALL AIRCRAFT THAT OPERATE WITHIN A 4 NMR > OF 310509N/0974111W OR THE GRK058007 (KILLEEN MUNI AIRPORT) EXCLUDING > R-6302A/B. D. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS > FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE REQUIRED CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS > WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 3 OF 3 WIE UNTIL UFN > > Center Map Here Printable WAC/Sectional Printable GNC [No Labels] > Note: IE users should right-click link to save printable chart. > Printable chart requires free Acrobat Reader software by Adobe. > > TX > 4/7250 - TX.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WACO, TEXAS. JULY 29, 2004 LOCAL. > PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141, OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL > REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN THE > FOLLOWING AREA(S) UNLESS OTHERWISE AUTHORIZED BY ATC. 3.0 NMR BLW 3000 > FEET AGL OF 313859N/0970426W OR THE ACT089010 FROM 0407291730 (1230 > LOCAL 07/29/04) UNTIL 0407291835 (1335 LOCAL 07/29/04). WIE UNTIL > > http://airspace.nifc.gov/mapping/nifc/index.cfm > > Quote
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