Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/21/2004 6:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kdidactivity@... writes: Then i stated well hoh or deaf? I know my child needs help? so i asked her when does he get it ? now or later?and why? what is deaf how much does he have to lose? she said we are mistaken he is not deaf!Now what do we do for our son? Jill?what is Ian's loss and how quickly did it progress?what is it called and where is his loss?It sounds alot like my son. Hi , It is not important what they call your son. What is important is that he has needs and the school has to meet those needs. Most people thnk " deaf " means that a person cannot ehar anything. That's wromg, but why bother arguing? The words I use to describe my son are " Ian is going deaf " and then no one dares to argue with me as to how to define his hearing loss. He's not deaf, he can hear and he hears even better with his aides. But me may be " deaf " by the time he is an adult. I don't bother to argue with people over the definition of " deaf " because I don't see how it helpssettle anything. The simple fact is that Ian is losing his hearing bit by bit as the years go by. He has a degenerative loss and right now both ears are in the 50-55 db.range and it is called a " bilateral moderate conductive hearing loss. " Forgive me if I am defining things you already know. Blilateral means he has hearing loss on both sides -- left and right. A conductive loss indicates that his cochlea and auditory nerve are not damaged. The doctors also suspect that he may have the beginnings of otoschlerosis, but I am not sure about all the details of that. Our doctors don't agree on that point, so I have not spent a lot of time learning about it. His hearing is tested every 6 months, but sometimes the audi feels he needs to come back at 3 months. If there is fluid in his ears, or if Ian has one of his sudden drops, we come back sooner. When he was 7-8 his loss was 35 in his right and 15 in his left. As his hearing on the right side dropped a few decibels at a time, so did his left. So the right side stayed about 20 dbs worse than the right. Then suddenly he lost almost 20 dbs in his left woith no warning. It just dropped. Now both ears were about equal. His left ear is now just a touch lower than his right. It has been 7 years since we found out about his loss and in that time he has lost 20 dbs in his right ear and about 40 in his left. Ian has been diagnosed as having a syndrome called Goldenhar. That was not diagnosed because of his hearing loss, but because of a whole combination of little issues. I don't want anyone jumping to the conclusion that because their child shares some of Ian's issues, that the child also has Goldenhar. Only a geneticist can tell you that. The markers for Goldernhar can be very different fomr kid to kid. If anyone wants to know more about Goldenhar, I'll gladly share, but I don't see the point in listing Ian's litany of issues or how they relate to the syndrome. His hearing loss is the most obvious thing. It is the one thing that the school provides services for. Our TOD also addresses his memory issues and helps him find techniques to get information into long term memory. She also taught him to keep himself organized so his processing speed issue is not as much of a problem. He uses an FM system in school. The little boots hook onto his hearing aids so he can listen driectly to the teacher or the movie, or to whoever is holding the microphone. It has been a great help to him! I'm not sure how to help you. I am little confused. Does your son have aids? If not, then he certainly does need them. 40 and 50 db losses are not minor or borderline. Is the doctor saying he does not need aids and that an FM is enough? That does not sound right to me. What state are you in? Ther are people in this list from all over the country so I'm sure we can find some local advocay group or agency for you to call for advice as it relates to your state law. Our insurance does not cover aids at all. But we are lucky that both of us work and we have family who can help when there is a need. There are organizations who give grants or aids to kids who need help. I'll gladly help you with the paperwork for one of those if you need that. Well ... my husband and son are now home and we're about to have a very late dinner. Best -- Jill (By the way, my daughter's name is .) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 In a message dated 10/21/2004 6:34:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kdidactivity@... writes: Then i stated well hoh or deaf? I know my child needs help? so i asked her when does he get it ? now or later?and why? what is deaf how much does he have to lose? she said we are mistaken he is not deaf!Now what do we do for our son? Jill?what is Ian's loss and how quickly did it progress?what is it called and where is his loss?It sounds alot like my son. Hi , It is not important what they call your son. What is important is that he has needs and the school has to meet those needs. Most people thnk " deaf " means that a person cannot ehar anything. That's wromg, but why bother arguing? The words I use to describe my son are " Ian is going deaf " and then no one dares to argue with me as to how to define his hearing loss. He's not deaf, he can hear and he hears even better with his aides. But me may be " deaf " by the time he is an adult. I don't bother to argue with people over the definition of " deaf " because I don't see how it helpssettle anything. The simple fact is that Ian is losing his hearing bit by bit as the years go by. He has a degenerative loss and right now both ears are in the 50-55 db.range and it is called a " bilateral moderate conductive hearing loss. " Forgive me if I am defining things you already know. Blilateral means he has hearing loss on both sides -- left and right. A conductive loss indicates that his cochlea and auditory nerve are not damaged. The doctors also suspect that he may have the beginnings of otoschlerosis, but I am not sure about all the details of that. Our doctors don't agree on that point, so I have not spent a lot of time learning about it. His hearing is tested every 6 months, but sometimes the audi feels he needs to come back at 3 months. If there is fluid in his ears, or if Ian has one of his sudden drops, we come back sooner. When he was 7-8 his loss was 35 in his right and 15 in his left. As his hearing on the right side dropped a few decibels at a time, so did his left. So the right side stayed about 20 dbs worse than the right. Then suddenly he lost almost 20 dbs in his left woith no warning. It just dropped. Now both ears were about equal. His left ear is now just a touch lower than his right. It has been 7 years since we found out about his loss and in that time he has lost 20 dbs in his right ear and about 40 in his left. Ian has been diagnosed as having a syndrome called Goldenhar. That was not diagnosed because of his hearing loss, but because of a whole combination of little issues. I don't want anyone jumping to the conclusion that because their child shares some of Ian's issues, that the child also has Goldenhar. Only a geneticist can tell you that. The markers for Goldernhar can be very different fomr kid to kid. If anyone wants to know more about Goldenhar, I'll gladly share, but I don't see the point in listing Ian's litany of issues or how they relate to the syndrome. His hearing loss is the most obvious thing. It is the one thing that the school provides services for. Our TOD also addresses his memory issues and helps him find techniques to get information into long term memory. She also taught him to keep himself organized so his processing speed issue is not as much of a problem. He uses an FM system in school. The little boots hook onto his hearing aids so he can listen driectly to the teacher or the movie, or to whoever is holding the microphone. It has been a great help to him! I'm not sure how to help you. I am little confused. Does your son have aids? If not, then he certainly does need them. 40 and 50 db losses are not minor or borderline. Is the doctor saying he does not need aids and that an FM is enough? That does not sound right to me. What state are you in? Ther are people in this list from all over the country so I'm sure we can find some local advocay group or agency for you to call for advice as it relates to your state law. Our insurance does not cover aids at all. But we are lucky that both of us work and we have family who can help when there is a need. There are organizations who give grants or aids to kids who need help. I'll gladly help you with the paperwork for one of those if you need that. Well ... my husband and son are now home and we're about to have a very late dinner. Best -- Jill (By the way, my daughter's name is .) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 , What state are you in? What county? I really feel as though we need to work to get you in touch with the right people. If you were close by, I'd be volunteering to go to your doctor appointments and talk with the doctor who told you that an FM is good enough for a 40/50 db loss. So, let's find you the right people. If you would prefer to write to me off-list to share this information, please do. Let's see if we can get you in touch with some people who can really help you get your son the help he needs. Best - Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2004 Report Share Posted October 23, 2004 , What state are you in? What county? I really feel as though we need to work to get you in touch with the right people. If you were close by, I'd be volunteering to go to your doctor appointments and talk with the doctor who told you that an FM is good enough for a 40/50 db loss. So, let's find you the right people. If you would prefer to write to me off-list to share this information, please do. Let's see if we can get you in touch with some people who can really help you get your son the help he needs. Best - Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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