Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Oh, I remember Tony. He had such a big heart...he was a musician and he didn't mince his words. When you got a kick in the pants from Tony, you FELT it. But sometimes, that's what we need...not consolation and somebody telling us it doesn't matter. I've got a Tony footprint on my backside and it was what I needed to get back on track. And sometimes, when I need it, I'll try to channel Tony and ask myself, " what would Tony say? " if he were around. His death was awfully sudden and a huge shock. Here's one of his responses to one of my questions: Diane asked: > Okay, we probably have more women than men in this group. > So, let's hear from you creatures who will never know the joys of bearing children and menstruating. (Oops, just by writing that word, probably scared most of y'all off..sorry.). What weight watching issues do you think are different for men than for women? What do WW women do that really bugs you? Or comment on any gender issue you'd like. Tony Florida wrote.... Hi all, Can't speak for men in general, but for me... I am in a very 'public' situation, workwise, and have always had problems because of it. (Think Mama Cass, if you're old enough!) I think the entire idea of men being exempt from weight and image problems is outdated. I sometimes wonder if women -- particularly women in the workplace -- are aware of the pressure on men to look " a certain way " as they feel they must themselves. In the US, where the ideals of competition and winning at all costs have over-shadowed reason, the need for men to be slim, trim, buff, and tough have put all men on notice: You won't get the job, you'll be passed over for promotions, you will suffer all manner of discrimination unless you conform and get on the 'warrior' bandwagon. I know nothing of " WW women " in general. What I see on the lists, particularly from people who are coming back, is a lack of self-honesty that I think comes from a fear of commitment. For example: " Well, I tried Atkins and and fourteen other plans, and 'they' all failed. I guess I'll try the new WW now, cuz I haven't been to WW since the tuna days..... " <g> .....or something similar. It sounds (my perception?) like the diet du jour attitude. There's a basic failure to take responsibility for how we are, look at the thing squarely and take the OP action toward *long-term* change. (Re-reading that sentence makes me see so clearly the difference in how men and women are 'hard-wired.' LOL) I believe this weight thing is serious. I think all the awareness of obesity and health problems is symptomatic of underlying stuff, but we don't get well by hopping around and playing it for laughs. Trying to be nonchalant and breezy about it may be covering the fear of blowing it, and letting ourselves down again, but it still doesn't get the job done. I know, too, that most people here on SWW are really working at significant change. They know it's hard, they rely on mutual support; but they're here to *win* and that really says something to me. Most of the guys I've 'met' online seem to be more focused (?) than a lot of the women. That's an assumption but, for instance, I didn't see large numbers of men talking about how they just " had " to dive into the Halloween candy, or how valiant they were for not doing so.... Diane's questions are fun, IMO, but I can see by my own thinking that answering them seems to highlight differences, rather than point up similarities. We're all here together, rowing the same little boat, to overcome a serious and difficult obstacle to living fully. Having mentioned a couple of things that I see, off the cuff, I believe concentrating on what confronts *both* men and women, and getting to the solutions, is probably more up my alley. Best to all, Tony Florida 259/249/155 (since Oct 9, '02) WAYOOM goal 246 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 I read this and I just sit in awe....he was so good with words. He was so profound. I really miss him. What a great treasure he was to our group. In our group, Tony will live on through posts such as Diane's. Thanks for sharing it, Diane. Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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