Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 I agree with Bette and others that have posted. Now, 80+ pounds down, I find that if I have too many sugary snacks during the week, I tend to lose slower or not lose vs. making healthier choices. So while " a point is a point " , " not all points are created equal " - may sound contradictory, but hopefully you get my point. :-) What often helps, is looking at that chocolate chip cookie, figuring out the points - and then realizing that I could just scarf it down and I'd still be looking for something else, or I can find something for the same # of points that would be a lot more filling and keep me satisfied a lot longer. In those cases, the chocolate chip cookies, most often, become just " not worth it " . It's a cost/benefit analysis. mitch mousikos@... wrote: > Hi, > I think I'm probably the one who posted something that caused the > question to > be asked -- are there good or bad points? I didn't mean to say that the > actual *points* are either good or bad. You're right of course - a > point is a > point. But some of us have discovered that when we hit a plateau or a > roadblock > or whatever you call it, if we take a look at our journals and what is > IN the > points we eat, we find that we could make better choices. For > example, eating > our fill of McD burgers, WW sundae cones and JP bars and Lays baked > chips, > while staying within our points, is perfectly permissible with WW. > That's what > makes the program so much fun. But, if we eat that way for a while and > suddenly find we aren't losing anymore, sometimes just by eating less > " junk " and > more protein and *complex* carbs, we find that we begin losing again. > We've > eaten the same number of points each day, but our choices were wiser. > (By the > way, I am not -- definitely NOT -- a health-food afficionado! I > didn't get where > I am weightwise by eating healthy!!) > > Having said that . . . maybe there are people who can lose a hundred > pounds > while eating chips and ice cream every day, but for my own body it > doesn't > work. I do certainly enjoy planning some of my points for my favorite > goodies . . > . otherwise I couldn't make this a lifelong eating change -- and that > very > freedom is what makes WW so livable! > > Anyway, that's all I meant when I said there are different *kinds* of > points. > Of course, anyone may choose to disagree! I didn't mean to incite a riot! > > I'm still learning what works for me... And what works this month may > need > tweaking next month! > Bette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 I agree with Bette and others that have posted. Now, 80+ pounds down, I find that if I have too many sugary snacks during the week, I tend to lose slower or not lose vs. making healthier choices. So while " a point is a point " , " not all points are created equal " - may sound contradictory, but hopefully you get my point. :-) What often helps, is looking at that chocolate chip cookie, figuring out the points - and then realizing that I could just scarf it down and I'd still be looking for something else, or I can find something for the same # of points that would be a lot more filling and keep me satisfied a lot longer. In those cases, the chocolate chip cookies, most often, become just " not worth it " . It's a cost/benefit analysis. mitch mousikos@... wrote: > Hi, > I think I'm probably the one who posted something that caused the > question to > be asked -- are there good or bad points? I didn't mean to say that the > actual *points* are either good or bad. You're right of course - a > point is a > point. But some of us have discovered that when we hit a plateau or a > roadblock > or whatever you call it, if we take a look at our journals and what is > IN the > points we eat, we find that we could make better choices. For > example, eating > our fill of McD burgers, WW sundae cones and JP bars and Lays baked > chips, > while staying within our points, is perfectly permissible with WW. > That's what > makes the program so much fun. But, if we eat that way for a while and > suddenly find we aren't losing anymore, sometimes just by eating less > " junk " and > more protein and *complex* carbs, we find that we begin losing again. > We've > eaten the same number of points each day, but our choices were wiser. > (By the > way, I am not -- definitely NOT -- a health-food afficionado! I > didn't get where > I am weightwise by eating healthy!!) > > Having said that . . . maybe there are people who can lose a hundred > pounds > while eating chips and ice cream every day, but for my own body it > doesn't > work. I do certainly enjoy planning some of my points for my favorite > goodies . . > . otherwise I couldn't make this a lifelong eating change -- and that > very > freedom is what makes WW so livable! > > Anyway, that's all I meant when I said there are different *kinds* of > points. > Of course, anyone may choose to disagree! I didn't mean to incite a riot! > > I'm still learning what works for me... And what works this month may > need > tweaking next month! > Bette > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 In a message dated 10/11/2003 2:43:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mitch@... writes: > What often helps, is looking at that chocolate chip cookie, figuring out > the points - > and then realizing that I could just scarf it down and I'd still be > looking for something > else, or I can find something for the same # of points that would be a > lot more > filling and keep me satisfied a lot longer. Mitch - that's exactly what I've learned to do! I think it was Tory who compared our daily points to a spending allowance. That idea taught me to always think in terms of value . . . so I ask myself " Is this cookie WORTH spending that many points, when I know I'll still be hungry and then I'll only have this-many points left? " But there's such freedom in knowing I can have that cookie if I want to! Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 In a message dated 10/11/2003 2:43:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mitch@... writes: > What often helps, is looking at that chocolate chip cookie, figuring out > the points - > and then realizing that I could just scarf it down and I'd still be > looking for something > else, or I can find something for the same # of points that would be a > lot more > filling and keep me satisfied a lot longer. Mitch - that's exactly what I've learned to do! I think it was Tory who compared our daily points to a spending allowance. That idea taught me to always think in terms of value . . . so I ask myself " Is this cookie WORTH spending that many points, when I know I'll still be hungry and then I'll only have this-many points left? " But there's such freedom in knowing I can have that cookie if I want to! Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 In a message dated 10/11/2003 2:43:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mitch@... writes: > What often helps, is looking at that chocolate chip cookie, figuring out > the points - > and then realizing that I could just scarf it down and I'd still be > looking for something > else, or I can find something for the same # of points that would be a > lot more > filling and keep me satisfied a lot longer. Mitch - that's exactly what I've learned to do! I think it was Tory who compared our daily points to a spending allowance. That idea taught me to always think in terms of value . . . so I ask myself " Is this cookie WORTH spending that many points, when I know I'll still be hungry and then I'll only have this-many points left? " But there's such freedom in knowing I can have that cookie if I want to! Bette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi , (better grab a glass of water - I ended up writing you a lengthy response) I can only speak for myself and for what has worked for me. As most of you know, I am a recovering fudgesicle addict. Yes, I had a problem (big sigh). It was a 3 fudgie/6 point a day habit - taking a total of 6 points and not giving my body any fuel. My step dad is a diabetic and I personally think his doc is a whack-job - just mine and mom's opinion...but you know how people are about their docs. Anyway - the way they had him eating I needed to understand for myself what the deal was - I wanted to be sure he was getting what he needed nutritionally. I came across the book Sugar Busters and read through it hoping to gain an understanding of this disease. He is a type 2 and his case could be managed by diet if he got it under control and since the meds have a lot of side effects I wanted to read up on the disease itself so that I could badger him properly. We have that kind of thing where we terrorize each other, but love each other dearly - it is just what we do... Anyway - when I was three I had a favorite blankie and - gotcha - just kidding... Getting to the point - I read the book and it explained how your body processes food. I thought it was amazing, and many of the things his doctor had him doing were great. As I read through the book, they explained that their recommendations were for people with insulin resistance, but many of their spouses who had eaten the same meals along with them had lost weight as well. Being that I am anal and neurotic I thought I would see what it was like without Mr. Fudgie in my life for a few weeks so that I could understand. One of my grandmothers was a diabetic and it eventually killed her - though I don't take after that side of the family, if I got big enough I would have a much higher chance of it happening. Thought I might need therapy to get over the break-up of me and fudgie, but amazingly enough that was probably more than 2 months ago now at least and I still don't eat sugar or white flour and my weight loss increased dramatically. I am actually eating more points, but instead of 6 points of garbage a day - I could have 6 fruits, or 2 more servings of lean protein like tuna, chicken, or filet mignon (mmmm) or 2 ounces of cheese, cottage cheese, a handful of peanuts - whatever. My body can use those as fuel to burn fat and build muscle to what??....Burn FAT!! I thought I would hate this, but I feel so good that I do not want to stop. I have always liked whole grain breads, etc. so this was not an issue and they are encouraged - and so are triscuits one of the best know foods - who knew triscuits were whole grain whole wheat? A lower fat lifestyle is encouraged as well. No pound of bacon like my Atkins-doing MIL - we will not go there! I no longer eat sugar or white flour. I stay in my points. I eat all my APs and about 25-30 FP a week. I am losing much better than even in the beginning where you always lose a lot. I am happy and it works for me. I do not even crave any of it. I do love eating oranges and green ginger apples - the fruit now seems as sweet as candy to me - that is the biggest shock - if you had told me that I would think eating oranges was like having a wonderful sweet dessert I would have choked on my fudgesicle stick! Now, I am not saying that there is never a piece of cheesecake in my future - because this is life and I LOVE cheesecake. My anniversary and my birthday, I will have some of course. There is also a frozen yogurt store near us called Freshens and they have a no sugar no fat low carb frozen yogurt that is really good. Also some of the restaurants have something called WOW COW that is heavenly and has no fat or sugar. Something just clicked in me and I no longer wanted to eat cheetos, potato chips, and the plethora of junk food (although still in points) that I had been. (those and a few glasses of wine while watching TV helped me and Mr. Fudgie fall in love that much easier and gave me back the 53 pounds I had lost 2 years ago - WTH was I thinking?? Why didn't someone stop me???) I just like feeling good. I want to spend my points on things that my body gets nutrition out of. I do not like to eat things with no nutritional value, and it works for me. My weight loss has gone from 1 pound a week to 2 and sometimes 3 and that is ALL I changed. But that is just me. I am not " doing " Atkins, sbd or anything else. Just the change of not eating the white flour and the sugar have helped me. Honestly I have no desire at all to eat chocolate and that gets stronger all the time - I am not saying that for the first 2 weeks I was not like Well this SUCKS - but I really wanted to understand what it would be like so I stuck it out, and I never thought I would keep it up - it was kind of an experiment. Now I don't miss any of it. Mr. Fudgie has moved on and I no longer buy junk food for the family either. Just my .86 - LOL - sorry so long! Jenn good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi , (better grab a glass of water - I ended up writing you a lengthy response) I can only speak for myself and for what has worked for me. As most of you know, I am a recovering fudgesicle addict. Yes, I had a problem (big sigh). It was a 3 fudgie/6 point a day habit - taking a total of 6 points and not giving my body any fuel. My step dad is a diabetic and I personally think his doc is a whack-job - just mine and mom's opinion...but you know how people are about their docs. Anyway - the way they had him eating I needed to understand for myself what the deal was - I wanted to be sure he was getting what he needed nutritionally. I came across the book Sugar Busters and read through it hoping to gain an understanding of this disease. He is a type 2 and his case could be managed by diet if he got it under control and since the meds have a lot of side effects I wanted to read up on the disease itself so that I could badger him properly. We have that kind of thing where we terrorize each other, but love each other dearly - it is just what we do... Anyway - when I was three I had a favorite blankie and - gotcha - just kidding... Getting to the point - I read the book and it explained how your body processes food. I thought it was amazing, and many of the things his doctor had him doing were great. As I read through the book, they explained that their recommendations were for people with insulin resistance, but many of their spouses who had eaten the same meals along with them had lost weight as well. Being that I am anal and neurotic I thought I would see what it was like without Mr. Fudgie in my life for a few weeks so that I could understand. One of my grandmothers was a diabetic and it eventually killed her - though I don't take after that side of the family, if I got big enough I would have a much higher chance of it happening. Thought I might need therapy to get over the break-up of me and fudgie, but amazingly enough that was probably more than 2 months ago now at least and I still don't eat sugar or white flour and my weight loss increased dramatically. I am actually eating more points, but instead of 6 points of garbage a day - I could have 6 fruits, or 2 more servings of lean protein like tuna, chicken, or filet mignon (mmmm) or 2 ounces of cheese, cottage cheese, a handful of peanuts - whatever. My body can use those as fuel to burn fat and build muscle to what??....Burn FAT!! I thought I would hate this, but I feel so good that I do not want to stop. I have always liked whole grain breads, etc. so this was not an issue and they are encouraged - and so are triscuits one of the best know foods - who knew triscuits were whole grain whole wheat? A lower fat lifestyle is encouraged as well. No pound of bacon like my Atkins-doing MIL - we will not go there! I no longer eat sugar or white flour. I stay in my points. I eat all my APs and about 25-30 FP a week. I am losing much better than even in the beginning where you always lose a lot. I am happy and it works for me. I do not even crave any of it. I do love eating oranges and green ginger apples - the fruit now seems as sweet as candy to me - that is the biggest shock - if you had told me that I would think eating oranges was like having a wonderful sweet dessert I would have choked on my fudgesicle stick! Now, I am not saying that there is never a piece of cheesecake in my future - because this is life and I LOVE cheesecake. My anniversary and my birthday, I will have some of course. There is also a frozen yogurt store near us called Freshens and they have a no sugar no fat low carb frozen yogurt that is really good. Also some of the restaurants have something called WOW COW that is heavenly and has no fat or sugar. Something just clicked in me and I no longer wanted to eat cheetos, potato chips, and the plethora of junk food (although still in points) that I had been. (those and a few glasses of wine while watching TV helped me and Mr. Fudgie fall in love that much easier and gave me back the 53 pounds I had lost 2 years ago - WTH was I thinking?? Why didn't someone stop me???) I just like feeling good. I want to spend my points on things that my body gets nutrition out of. I do not like to eat things with no nutritional value, and it works for me. My weight loss has gone from 1 pound a week to 2 and sometimes 3 and that is ALL I changed. But that is just me. I am not " doing " Atkins, sbd or anything else. Just the change of not eating the white flour and the sugar have helped me. Honestly I have no desire at all to eat chocolate and that gets stronger all the time - I am not saying that for the first 2 weeks I was not like Well this SUCKS - but I really wanted to understand what it would be like so I stuck it out, and I never thought I would keep it up - it was kind of an experiment. Now I don't miss any of it. Mr. Fudgie has moved on and I no longer buy junk food for the family either. Just my .86 - LOL - sorry so long! Jenn good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Hi , (better grab a glass of water - I ended up writing you a lengthy response) I can only speak for myself and for what has worked for me. As most of you know, I am a recovering fudgesicle addict. Yes, I had a problem (big sigh). It was a 3 fudgie/6 point a day habit - taking a total of 6 points and not giving my body any fuel. My step dad is a diabetic and I personally think his doc is a whack-job - just mine and mom's opinion...but you know how people are about their docs. Anyway - the way they had him eating I needed to understand for myself what the deal was - I wanted to be sure he was getting what he needed nutritionally. I came across the book Sugar Busters and read through it hoping to gain an understanding of this disease. He is a type 2 and his case could be managed by diet if he got it under control and since the meds have a lot of side effects I wanted to read up on the disease itself so that I could badger him properly. We have that kind of thing where we terrorize each other, but love each other dearly - it is just what we do... Anyway - when I was three I had a favorite blankie and - gotcha - just kidding... Getting to the point - I read the book and it explained how your body processes food. I thought it was amazing, and many of the things his doctor had him doing were great. As I read through the book, they explained that their recommendations were for people with insulin resistance, but many of their spouses who had eaten the same meals along with them had lost weight as well. Being that I am anal and neurotic I thought I would see what it was like without Mr. Fudgie in my life for a few weeks so that I could understand. One of my grandmothers was a diabetic and it eventually killed her - though I don't take after that side of the family, if I got big enough I would have a much higher chance of it happening. Thought I might need therapy to get over the break-up of me and fudgie, but amazingly enough that was probably more than 2 months ago now at least and I still don't eat sugar or white flour and my weight loss increased dramatically. I am actually eating more points, but instead of 6 points of garbage a day - I could have 6 fruits, or 2 more servings of lean protein like tuna, chicken, or filet mignon (mmmm) or 2 ounces of cheese, cottage cheese, a handful of peanuts - whatever. My body can use those as fuel to burn fat and build muscle to what??....Burn FAT!! I thought I would hate this, but I feel so good that I do not want to stop. I have always liked whole grain breads, etc. so this was not an issue and they are encouraged - and so are triscuits one of the best know foods - who knew triscuits were whole grain whole wheat? A lower fat lifestyle is encouraged as well. No pound of bacon like my Atkins-doing MIL - we will not go there! I no longer eat sugar or white flour. I stay in my points. I eat all my APs and about 25-30 FP a week. I am losing much better than even in the beginning where you always lose a lot. I am happy and it works for me. I do not even crave any of it. I do love eating oranges and green ginger apples - the fruit now seems as sweet as candy to me - that is the biggest shock - if you had told me that I would think eating oranges was like having a wonderful sweet dessert I would have choked on my fudgesicle stick! Now, I am not saying that there is never a piece of cheesecake in my future - because this is life and I LOVE cheesecake. My anniversary and my birthday, I will have some of course. There is also a frozen yogurt store near us called Freshens and they have a no sugar no fat low carb frozen yogurt that is really good. Also some of the restaurants have something called WOW COW that is heavenly and has no fat or sugar. Something just clicked in me and I no longer wanted to eat cheetos, potato chips, and the plethora of junk food (although still in points) that I had been. (those and a few glasses of wine while watching TV helped me and Mr. Fudgie fall in love that much easier and gave me back the 53 pounds I had lost 2 years ago - WTH was I thinking?? Why didn't someone stop me???) I just like feeling good. I want to spend my points on things that my body gets nutrition out of. I do not like to eat things with no nutritional value, and it works for me. My weight loss has gone from 1 pound a week to 2 and sometimes 3 and that is ALL I changed. But that is just me. I am not " doing " Atkins, sbd or anything else. Just the change of not eating the white flour and the sugar have helped me. Honestly I have no desire at all to eat chocolate and that gets stronger all the time - I am not saying that for the first 2 weeks I was not like Well this SUCKS - but I really wanted to understand what it would be like so I stuck it out, and I never thought I would keep it up - it was kind of an experiment. Now I don't miss any of it. Mr. Fudgie has moved on and I no longer buy junk food for the family either. Just my .86 - LOL - sorry so long! Jenn good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 F or me - I made a choice to eat healthier forever - but if someone else " told me " what I could and could not have - that would not work - it would just tick me off! Jenn i think that is why i have failed on so many other diets, cause i couldn't eat what i wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 F or me - I made a choice to eat healthier forever - but if someone else " told me " what I could and could not have - that would not work - it would just tick me off! Jenn i think that is why i have failed on so many other diets, cause i couldn't eat what i wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 F or me - I made a choice to eat healthier forever - but if someone else " told me " what I could and could not have - that would not work - it would just tick me off! Jenn i think that is why i have failed on so many other diets, cause i couldn't eat what i wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Yes - - I love it - great post! Jenn Technically, you can lose weight as long as you just count your points. The general formula for losing weight is to eat less than you are burning. (Or burn more than you are eating, depending on how you want to look at it.) The good or bad choices come into play when it comes to fueling the body. You COULD eat all of your points each day eating just chocolate chip cookies OR for the same amount of points you could have quite a bit more food that your body is better able to utilize. Protein, Carbohydrates, Fat.. the body needs some of each of these and they each provide a different benefit for the body. If you want your body to perform at its best, then the food going in should also be nutritious. (Kind of like the saying " Garbage in = garbage out. " ) good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Yes - - I love it - great post! Jenn Technically, you can lose weight as long as you just count your points. The general formula for losing weight is to eat less than you are burning. (Or burn more than you are eating, depending on how you want to look at it.) The good or bad choices come into play when it comes to fueling the body. You COULD eat all of your points each day eating just chocolate chip cookies OR for the same amount of points you could have quite a bit more food that your body is better able to utilize. Protein, Carbohydrates, Fat.. the body needs some of each of these and they each provide a different benefit for the body. If you want your body to perform at its best, then the food going in should also be nutritious. (Kind of like the saying " Garbage in = garbage out. " ) good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Yes - - I love it - great post! Jenn Technically, you can lose weight as long as you just count your points. The general formula for losing weight is to eat less than you are burning. (Or burn more than you are eating, depending on how you want to look at it.) The good or bad choices come into play when it comes to fueling the body. You COULD eat all of your points each day eating just chocolate chip cookies OR for the same amount of points you could have quite a bit more food that your body is better able to utilize. Protein, Carbohydrates, Fat.. the body needs some of each of these and they each provide a different benefit for the body. If you want your body to perform at its best, then the food going in should also be nutritious. (Kind of like the saying " Garbage in = garbage out. " ) good or bad points? hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Me too! I have 6 more snack-like meals and it is something I love. Jenn Same goes for when you eat (late at night) and how often or how many points in a sitting. I have read through other peoples journals and about die when I see people that will eat ten or fifteen points at a single meal, but that's just because I happen to be one of those that would rather eat five or six small meals than three big ones ) Kris 194/144/128 -----Original Message----- hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Me too! I have 6 more snack-like meals and it is something I love. Jenn Same goes for when you eat (late at night) and how often or how many points in a sitting. I have read through other peoples journals and about die when I see people that will eat ten or fifteen points at a single meal, but that's just because I happen to be one of those that would rather eat five or six small meals than three big ones ) Kris 194/144/128 -----Original Message----- hi, i have read a few of your posts and it sounds like some of you are talking about good choices or bad choices, but staying within your point range. i thought a point was a point no matter what it was. could someone explain to me what you meant? maybe eating too many points at one time, or eating too late at night, or just getting your points from junk food? seems if you stay within your point range, it wouldn't matter where the points come from? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 I was on WW about 6 years ago. I initially did well - lost about 11 lbs (with a lot more to go). My old bad junk food habits started to creep in. I was still counting points, but little by little the junk food took over and I was no longer staying within my point range. I started gaining, got very discouraged and quit. Now I'm 30 lbs heavier than my last WW weigh in 6 years ago. I've started back on my own, but have made a committeemen to make healthy choice. I feel so much better and I'm getting to that point where the junk doesn't really interest me. I can pass up desserts with feeling bad (actually feel GOOD). Candy bars don't call my name anymore. If I crave chips, I get a small bag of Baked Lays (and don't keep large bags of chips in the house). Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 I was on WW about 6 years ago. I initially did well - lost about 11 lbs (with a lot more to go). My old bad junk food habits started to creep in. I was still counting points, but little by little the junk food took over and I was no longer staying within my point range. I started gaining, got very discouraged and quit. Now I'm 30 lbs heavier than my last WW weigh in 6 years ago. I've started back on my own, but have made a committeemen to make healthy choice. I feel so much better and I'm getting to that point where the junk doesn't really interest me. I can pass up desserts with feeling bad (actually feel GOOD). Candy bars don't call my name anymore. If I crave chips, I get a small bag of Baked Lays (and don't keep large bags of chips in the house). Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 writes: > any one have good ideas for low point, high protein foods? Tofu, hummus, soybeans...soy milk (I like the Soy Slender by West Soy, sweetened with Splenda...1 pt. per cup), really, any soy products, nuts, low fat cheeses and yogurt, most beans..... Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 thanks jen and everyone else who explained to me about good or bad points! so do you exercise at all jen? i try to exercise every day and since i started that i feel much healthier and happier and have more energy. that must be the way you feel with out all the sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 thanks jen and everyone else who explained to me about good or bad points! so do you exercise at all jen? i try to exercise every day and since i started that i feel much healthier and happier and have more energy. that must be the way you feel with out all the sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 thanks jen and everyone else who explained to me about good or bad points! so do you exercise at all jen? i try to exercise every day and since i started that i feel much healthier and happier and have more energy. that must be the way you feel with out all the sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Sue, that is huge! I bet you felt great. You made the right choice for you and it feels good to be in charge of you. Lucky for me oreos give me a migraine (dark chocolate kills me)! Jenn Yesterday I had pulled out an individual package of oreo cookies, recorded my points and only had 1 point left besides some flex points at 2 in the afternoon. I sat down looked at the package and put in back in the cupboard. I realized that wasn't going to hold me for the rest of the day. I choose to eat some fruit and diet soda and then had a Lean Cuisine for dinner. Sure felt good. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2003 Report Share Posted October 11, 2003 Sue, that is huge! I bet you felt great. You made the right choice for you and it feels good to be in charge of you. Lucky for me oreos give me a migraine (dark chocolate kills me)! Jenn Yesterday I had pulled out an individual package of oreo cookies, recorded my points and only had 1 point left besides some flex points at 2 in the afternoon. I sat down looked at the package and put in back in the cupboard. I realized that wasn't going to hold me for the rest of the day. I choose to eat some fruit and diet soda and then had a Lean Cuisine for dinner. Sure felt good. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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