Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 (snip) > Healthy hearts will not go into AF if the owner consumes or > experiences " a trigger " . : There are many afibbers described as " lone " afibbers (those who show no other sign of heart disease). And many endurance athletes (runners, swimmers, cyclists, rowers, etc.) suffer from afib. In fact the low resting heart rate that is the hallmark of superb conditioning, may also be a trigger itself! So, while I don't knock the heart healthy lifestyle --- it is certainly no assurance that you won't experience afib. H, Charlotte NC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 wrote > > : > There are many afibbers described as " lone " afibbers (those who show > no other sign of heart disease). And many endurance athletes > (runners, swimmers, cyclists, rowers, etc.) suffer from afib. In fact > the low resting heart rate that is the hallmark of superb > conditioning, may also be a trigger itself! So, while I don't knock > the heart healthy lifestyle --- it is certainly no assurance that you > won't experience afib. > H, Charlotte NC here I don't disagree with much of what you say and I am aware of the issues you raise. I am saying that " a heart " that is not predisposed to AF won't respond to a given stimulus (that is a broad trigger) by initiating AF. General initiating events vary from high fever and illness, drinking binges, extreme exercise, drugs induced, to low- grade distress. I have a view that the definition of heart disease as either blocked arteries or a valve problem is not adequate. Inflammation of the general tissue is behind much of what we see as Lone AF and other arrhythmias. Exhaustion of the muscle as in a hard lifting or running can predispose to arrhythmia. In the paced goat studies (goats hearts are electrically paced above the Max heart rate .) Their hearts become more and more susceptible to triggering AF and eventually go to persistent AF. There are the other predisposing factors I mentioned in my original note. There are two new books out on themes, which speak to this issue. Neither book does an adequate job of dealing with AF but they are good discussions, of what to do about the inflammation problem. Of late everyone seems to be on this bandwagon with lots of new books coming out on similar themes. The PH miracle is a bit " health foody " but I think the advice is good. Here are the titles, snoop them out at your book store before you buy . Stop Inflammation Now!: The pH Miracle for Diabetes : Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 wrote > > : > There are many afibbers described as " lone " afibbers (those who show > no other sign of heart disease). And many endurance athletes > (runners, swimmers, cyclists, rowers, etc.) suffer from afib. In fact > the low resting heart rate that is the hallmark of superb > conditioning, may also be a trigger itself! So, while I don't knock > the heart healthy lifestyle --- it is certainly no assurance that you > won't experience afib. > H, Charlotte NC here I don't disagree with much of what you say and I am aware of the issues you raise. I am saying that " a heart " that is not predisposed to AF won't respond to a given stimulus (that is a broad trigger) by initiating AF. General initiating events vary from high fever and illness, drinking binges, extreme exercise, drugs induced, to low- grade distress. I have a view that the definition of heart disease as either blocked arteries or a valve problem is not adequate. Inflammation of the general tissue is behind much of what we see as Lone AF and other arrhythmias. Exhaustion of the muscle as in a hard lifting or running can predispose to arrhythmia. In the paced goat studies (goats hearts are electrically paced above the Max heart rate .) Their hearts become more and more susceptible to triggering AF and eventually go to persistent AF. There are the other predisposing factors I mentioned in my original note. There are two new books out on themes, which speak to this issue. Neither book does an adequate job of dealing with AF but they are good discussions, of what to do about the inflammation problem. Of late everyone seems to be on this bandwagon with lots of new books coming out on similar themes. The PH miracle is a bit " health foody " but I think the advice is good. Here are the titles, snoop them out at your book store before you buy . Stop Inflammation Now!: The pH Miracle for Diabetes : Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 wrote > > : > There are many afibbers described as " lone " afibbers (those who show > no other sign of heart disease). And many endurance athletes > (runners, swimmers, cyclists, rowers, etc.) suffer from afib. In fact > the low resting heart rate that is the hallmark of superb > conditioning, may also be a trigger itself! So, while I don't knock > the heart healthy lifestyle --- it is certainly no assurance that you > won't experience afib. > H, Charlotte NC here I don't disagree with much of what you say and I am aware of the issues you raise. I am saying that " a heart " that is not predisposed to AF won't respond to a given stimulus (that is a broad trigger) by initiating AF. General initiating events vary from high fever and illness, drinking binges, extreme exercise, drugs induced, to low- grade distress. I have a view that the definition of heart disease as either blocked arteries or a valve problem is not adequate. Inflammation of the general tissue is behind much of what we see as Lone AF and other arrhythmias. Exhaustion of the muscle as in a hard lifting or running can predispose to arrhythmia. In the paced goat studies (goats hearts are electrically paced above the Max heart rate .) Their hearts become more and more susceptible to triggering AF and eventually go to persistent AF. There are the other predisposing factors I mentioned in my original note. There are two new books out on themes, which speak to this issue. Neither book does an adequate job of dealing with AF but they are good discussions, of what to do about the inflammation problem. Of late everyone seems to be on this bandwagon with lots of new books coming out on similar themes. The PH miracle is a bit " health foody " but I think the advice is good. Here are the titles, snoop them out at your book store before you buy . Stop Inflammation Now!: The pH Miracle for Diabetes : Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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