Re: new to this - Curious Question

[Guest guest]

Curious about this....is this person really hypo with a TSH of 1.34?? I have a

friend with Raynauds syndrome....her TSH just came back at 1.8...Her doctor told

her she was fine and would not agree to do additional testing. If someone truly

had a RT3 problem...wouldn't their TSH be higher??

>

> Your ratio is 12 and needs ot be at least 20 so youdo have an RT3

> problem, but more importantly oyu are being undertreated for your

> adrenals. I have NEVER seen anyone thta needed cortios do well pon less

> than 20mg a day.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think it's a given that I am hypo. Other people on the forum can give

you a more definate answer but rigght now I'm just working on my adrenals and

rt3. My thyroid not out of range as of now. I think the cortisol and rt3 might

change that later though.

> >

> > Your ratio is 12 and needs ot be at least 20 so youdo have an RT3

> > problem, but more importantly oyu are being undertreated for your

> > adrenals. I have NEVER seen anyone thta needed cortios do well pon less

> > than 20mg a day.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think it's a given that I am hypo. Other people on the forum can give

you a more definate answer but rigght now I'm just working on my adrenals and

rt3. My thyroid not out of range as of now. I think the cortisol and rt3 might

change that later though.

> >

> > Your ratio is 12 and needs ot be at least 20 so youdo have an RT3

> > problem, but more importantly oyu are being undertreated for your

> > adrenals. I have NEVER seen anyone thta needed cortios do well pon less

> > than 20mg a day.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> I have a friend with Raynauds syndrome....her TSH just came back at 1.8...Her

doctor told her she was fine and would not agree to do additional testing

There are close links with hypo

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail & origin=ibids_references & \

therow=194421

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003429/pdf/annrheumd00410-0064.pdf

http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/the-realationship-between-hyp\

othyroidism-or-low-metabolism-and-scleroderma/796213

and from that one

" Raynaud’s Disease

Raynaud’s Disease is the result of the hypothermia of hypothyroidism.

Raynaud’s has the same etiology as that seen in the hypertensive, but,

because they on average are ectomorphic and have no subcutaneous fat

for insulation, suffer at a much younger age from the ravages of the

greater shunting of circulation away from the peripheral structures.

The result is atrophy of the skin and ultimately gangrene of the

digits. The use of calcium blockers as an attempt to open the

constricted arteries cannot succeed and will ultimately increase the

causative hypothermia. "

TSH is a very limited test, if it's high then there is a problem.

Being in range doesn't mean there isn't a problem, ie it shows false

negatives..

I'm of the opinion now that FT3 and RT3 are neeeded as a minimum to

confirm thyroid health.

Nick

[Guest guest]

> I have a friend with Raynauds syndrome....her TSH just came back at 1.8...Her

doctor told her she was fine and would not agree to do additional testing

There are close links with hypo

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail & origin=ibids_references & \

therow=194421

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003429/pdf/annrheumd00410-0064.pdf

http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/the-realationship-between-hyp\

othyroidism-or-low-metabolism-and-scleroderma/796213

and from that one

" Raynaud’s Disease

Raynaud’s Disease is the result of the hypothermia of hypothyroidism.

Raynaud’s has the same etiology as that seen in the hypertensive, but,

because they on average are ectomorphic and have no subcutaneous fat

for insulation, suffer at a much younger age from the ravages of the

greater shunting of circulation away from the peripheral structures.

The result is atrophy of the skin and ultimately gangrene of the

digits. The use of calcium blockers as an attempt to open the

constricted arteries cannot succeed and will ultimately increase the

causative hypothermia. "

TSH is a very limited test, if it's high then there is a problem.

Being in range doesn't mean there isn't a problem, ie it shows false

negatives..

I'm of the opinion now that FT3 and RT3 are neeeded as a minimum to

confirm thyroid health.

Nick

[Guest guest]

> I have a friend with Raynauds syndrome....her TSH just came back at 1.8...Her

doctor told her she was fine and would not agree to do additional testing

There are close links with hypo

http://grande.nal.usda.gov/ibids/index.php?mode2=detail & origin=ibids_references & \

therow=194421

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1003429/pdf/annrheumd00410-0064.pdf

http://www.wellsphere.com/general-medicine-article/the-realationship-between-hyp\

othyroidism-or-low-metabolism-and-scleroderma/796213

and from that one

" Raynaud’s Disease

Raynaud’s Disease is the result of the hypothermia of hypothyroidism.

Raynaud’s has the same etiology as that seen in the hypertensive, but,

because they on average are ectomorphic and have no subcutaneous fat

for insulation, suffer at a much younger age from the ravages of the

greater shunting of circulation away from the peripheral structures.

The result is atrophy of the skin and ultimately gangrene of the

digits. The use of calcium blockers as an attempt to open the

constricted arteries cannot succeed and will ultimately increase the

causative hypothermia. "

TSH is a very limited test, if it's high then there is a problem.

Being in range doesn't mean there isn't a problem, ie it shows false

negatives..

I'm of the opinion now that FT3 and RT3 are neeeded as a minimum to

confirm thyroid health.

Nick

[Guest guest]

This happened to me too. My TSH was 1.570, but my FT4 was .96 (.96-1.7) and FT3

was 3.2. I also had a very low ACTH, 9 (10-60) and 17 cortisol (4-20). My endo

said all was normal going by the TSH.

But after reading on my own and following the advice on a pituitary adrenal

board, I was led to believe that a low FT4 and low ACTH meant I was hypo and

secondary Adrenal insufficiency.

My TSH had gone from 1.0 to 1.3, to 1.570 over a few years.

I also have the main symptoms of hypo: muscle pain, low body temps, dry skin,

weight, depression, as well as many others.

So TSH is not an indicator for me either.

> >

> > Your ratio is 12 and needs ot be at least 20 so youdo have an RT3

> > problem, but more importantly oyu are being undertreated for your

> > adrenals. I have NEVER seen anyone thta needed cortios do well pon less

> > than 20mg a day.

> >

> > --

> > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

> >

> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

> >

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> Is that possible? To

>have RT3 dominance after long-standing (I mean decades), untreated hypoT?

I'm sure it is possible, the whole hypo thing being a resistance issue

from the start due to RT3.

It took 6 grains of Armour before I felt well when I started this

journey 10 years ago

Nick

[Guest guest]

> Is that possible? To

>have RT3 dominance after long-standing (I mean decades), untreated hypoT?

I'm sure it is possible, the whole hypo thing being a resistance issue

from the start due to RT3.

It took 6 grains of Armour before I felt well when I started this

journey 10 years ago

Nick