Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 In a message dated 8/25/00 1:31:20 PM Central Daylight Time, macookson@... writes: << My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< >> , It sounds like you and your husband are really working on a plan to be dedicated parents to your little one even when you return to work. There are lots of tips on helping the baby to take a bottle and I think if you stay positive and determined then all should work out well for you. Not to say that babies don't have problems going back and forth, just get some support and ideas and keep at it. There are also other alternatives to bottles that you'll learn about here. You are in a good position though if for some reason he/she won't take the bottles well since the baby will be on site at your work. take care! Fawn sahm to Drake 8-18-98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 In a message dated 8/25/00 1:31:20 PM Central Daylight Time, macookson@... writes: << My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< >> , It sounds like you and your husband are really working on a plan to be dedicated parents to your little one even when you return to work. There are lots of tips on helping the baby to take a bottle and I think if you stay positive and determined then all should work out well for you. Not to say that babies don't have problems going back and forth, just get some support and ideas and keep at it. There are also other alternatives to bottles that you'll learn about here. You are in a good position though if for some reason he/she won't take the bottles well since the baby will be on site at your work. take care! Fawn sahm to Drake 8-18-98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > <<Do you have the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding? If > not I highly recommend > it.>> > > I recommed this book too, it's what got me so > 'addicted' to breastfeeding, > and it's full of INFO!!! > Hi, , SOLD! I'll definitely look for this one at the LLL meeting, if I don't break down and order it online before then! I can't believe how big the stack of books on my nighttable is...right now, the pregnancy and childbirthing books are the highest priority, and the Nursing Mother's Companion is next, then the Sears and Brazelton books...there is SO much to learn, how will I ever be prepared?? ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > <<Do you have the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding? If > not I highly recommend > it.>> > > I recommed this book too, it's what got me so > 'addicted' to breastfeeding, > and it's full of INFO!!! > Hi, , SOLD! I'll definitely look for this one at the LLL meeting, if I don't break down and order it online before then! I can't believe how big the stack of books on my nighttable is...right now, the pregnancy and childbirthing books are the highest priority, and the Nursing Mother's Companion is next, then the Sears and Brazelton books...there is SO much to learn, how will I ever be prepared?? ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > , > > There are so many ways for your husband to bond with > your baby that he > probably won't feel he needs to give a nightly > bottle. My dh has always > done bath and book time around our house. It is a > nice way for him to spend > time with our children after a hectic day. He also > spent a good deal of > time with a baby strapped to him with either a sling > or backpack. He felt > that he could spend really good quality bonding time > that way. He would > often put on the sling at bedtime and wear the baby > to sleep. It gave me a > nice break in the evening and didn't require a > bottle or pumping to keep up > supply. I have to admit honestly that the nightly > bottle idea really > interfered with my supply and caused a lot of > latching difficulties with my > son. He never had a bottle until after four months > but he still got nipple > confusion. I have a hard time letting down to a > pump so it was difficult to > keep up my supply if he got any bottles. Many > mothers and babies do fine > with a nightly bottle or with switching back and > forth between the two. I > just didn't have that experience. Oh, that's scary...because when he's 6 months old, our baby will need to be able to take a bottle during the day when he's in day care. I sure do hope he doesn't stop wanting to nurse because of that. My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > , > > There are so many ways for your husband to bond with > your baby that he > probably won't feel he needs to give a nightly > bottle. My dh has always > done bath and book time around our house. It is a > nice way for him to spend > time with our children after a hectic day. He also > spent a good deal of > time with a baby strapped to him with either a sling > or backpack. He felt > that he could spend really good quality bonding time > that way. He would > often put on the sling at bedtime and wear the baby > to sleep. It gave me a > nice break in the evening and didn't require a > bottle or pumping to keep up > supply. I have to admit honestly that the nightly > bottle idea really > interfered with my supply and caused a lot of > latching difficulties with my > son. He never had a bottle until after four months > but he still got nipple > confusion. I have a hard time letting down to a > pump so it was difficult to > keep up my supply if he got any bottles. Many > mothers and babies do fine > with a nightly bottle or with switching back and > forth between the two. I > just didn't have that experience. Oh, that's scary...because when he's 6 months old, our baby will need to be able to take a bottle during the day when he's in day care. I sure do hope he doesn't stop wanting to nurse because of that. My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 <<SOLD! I'll definitely look for this one at the LLL meeting, if I don't break down and order it online before then! >> Check at online auctions if you want to get a good price OR, the LLL people will probably 'lend' you the book (like a library!) <<I can't believe how big the stack of books on my nighttable is...right now, the pregnancy and childbirthing books are the highest priority, and the Nursing Mother's Companion is next, then the Sears and Brazelton books...there is SO much to learn, how will I ever be prepared??>> You are never REALLY prepared until it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 <<SOLD! I'll definitely look for this one at the LLL meeting, if I don't break down and order it online before then! >> Check at online auctions if you want to get a good price OR, the LLL people will probably 'lend' you the book (like a library!) <<I can't believe how big the stack of books on my nighttable is...right now, the pregnancy and childbirthing books are the highest priority, and the Nursing Mother's Companion is next, then the Sears and Brazelton books...there is SO much to learn, how will I ever be prepared??>> You are never REALLY prepared until it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 <<SOLD! I'll definitely look for this one at the LLL meeting, if I don't break down and order it online before then! >> Check at online auctions if you want to get a good price OR, the LLL people will probably 'lend' you the book (like a library!) <<I can't believe how big the stack of books on my nighttable is...right now, the pregnancy and childbirthing books are the highest priority, and the Nursing Mother's Companion is next, then the Sears and Brazelton books...there is SO much to learn, how will I ever be prepared??>> You are never REALLY prepared until it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > It seems everyone has answered your questions...but > I wanted to add a > couple of things below: > > Here is a url that compares breast pumps. I was > originally going to get the > PIS but I settled on the Ameda Purely Yours. PIS is > marketed WAY better > than the PY which is why you hear more about the > PIS. But the PY is a great > pump. Abby and I had a LOT of trouble nursing in > the beginning and this > pump held up very well and I really like it. > http://breastpumps-etc.com/compare.html The Ameda one is also a bit less expensive -- every little bit helps, right now! I was sort of liking the car adapter cord on the P-I-S...can anyone tell me how useful that REALLY is, in everyday life? > > LLL meetings vary greatly! Unfortunately, the one > in my area will rarely > answer a question in any sort of helpful way. > Someone asked about breast > pumps at the last meeting and the LLL women told her > that she didnt need to > pump because she should just stay with the baby all > the time. Take what you > hear from everyone with a grain of salt. If they > are helpful that is great...just > be sure to trust your instincts. That goes without > saying though. Hopefully > your local LL chapter will be a great one...I know > there are many out > there...just so happens the one in my area isnt so > good. > Thanks for the heads-up, Jen...I do hope that they stay focused on helping people make the most out of the situations they HAVE, rather than trying to make people feel guilty for their choices and needs. Not everyone has the ability, emotionally or financially, to be a SAHM! ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > It seems everyone has answered your questions...but > I wanted to add a > couple of things below: > > Here is a url that compares breast pumps. I was > originally going to get the > PIS but I settled on the Ameda Purely Yours. PIS is > marketed WAY better > than the PY which is why you hear more about the > PIS. But the PY is a great > pump. Abby and I had a LOT of trouble nursing in > the beginning and this > pump held up very well and I really like it. > http://breastpumps-etc.com/compare.html The Ameda one is also a bit less expensive -- every little bit helps, right now! I was sort of liking the car adapter cord on the P-I-S...can anyone tell me how useful that REALLY is, in everyday life? > > LLL meetings vary greatly! Unfortunately, the one > in my area will rarely > answer a question in any sort of helpful way. > Someone asked about breast > pumps at the last meeting and the LLL women told her > that she didnt need to > pump because she should just stay with the baby all > the time. Take what you > hear from everyone with a grain of salt. If they > are helpful that is great...just > be sure to trust your instincts. That goes without > saying though. Hopefully > your local LL chapter will be a great one...I know > there are many out > there...just so happens the one in my area isnt so > good. > Thanks for the heads-up, Jen...I do hope that they stay focused on helping people make the most out of the situations they HAVE, rather than trying to make people feel guilty for their choices and needs. Not everyone has the ability, emotionally or financially, to be a SAHM! ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Thanks, Lynn, for the website and for the info. Thanks, especially, for explaining about the bottle " frames " with liner bags. Can a person pump directly into a liner bag? Are there any problems associated with using them, for the baby?? Also, this is probably a REALLY dumb question, but is there anything special that you need to do when washing a bottle that is used for emm? Do you have to sterilize them like you do for formula bottles, and if so, HOW do you sterilize them? Thanks so much! ---------------------------------------------------> > Check out http://www.pumpingmoms.org for tons of > useful information on pumping and storage. > > The PIS won't connect directly to the Avent bottles > without an adapter (which you can purchase). It will > connect directly to any " standard " baby bottle, like > the Gerger bottles you buy in bulk at Walmart. You > can also pump into the collection bottles which come > with the PIS (basically they are like gerber > bottles) and then transfer the emm to whatever you > want. > > Many people like disposable bottle systems, where > you have just a few bottle frames that use a new bag > each time, so you don't have to wash the entire > bottle. You can pump into a disposable bag. These > are different than the bags used for storage! > > If you freeze milk you defrost it by putting it in > the refrigerator the night before you expect to need > it and letting it gradually thaw OR setting it in a > coffee cup of warm (not hot) water to defrost in > about 15 minutes. You don't want to use the > microwave for formula OR emm because it heats > unevenly and can have hot spots (apparently there > are many serious injuries from this practice). You > additionally don't want to use the microwave for emm > because it destroys some of the unique properties. I > heard it explained that emm is a living substance, > and no living thing would do too well with being > microwaved! > > Feel free to email me directly if you have > questions. I have just stopped pumping for my 1yo. > > Lynn ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Thanks, Lynn, for the website and for the info. Thanks, especially, for explaining about the bottle " frames " with liner bags. Can a person pump directly into a liner bag? Are there any problems associated with using them, for the baby?? Also, this is probably a REALLY dumb question, but is there anything special that you need to do when washing a bottle that is used for emm? Do you have to sterilize them like you do for formula bottles, and if so, HOW do you sterilize them? Thanks so much! ---------------------------------------------------> > Check out http://www.pumpingmoms.org for tons of > useful information on pumping and storage. > > The PIS won't connect directly to the Avent bottles > without an adapter (which you can purchase). It will > connect directly to any " standard " baby bottle, like > the Gerger bottles you buy in bulk at Walmart. You > can also pump into the collection bottles which come > with the PIS (basically they are like gerber > bottles) and then transfer the emm to whatever you > want. > > Many people like disposable bottle systems, where > you have just a few bottle frames that use a new bag > each time, so you don't have to wash the entire > bottle. You can pump into a disposable bag. These > are different than the bags used for storage! > > If you freeze milk you defrost it by putting it in > the refrigerator the night before you expect to need > it and letting it gradually thaw OR setting it in a > coffee cup of warm (not hot) water to defrost in > about 15 minutes. You don't want to use the > microwave for formula OR emm because it heats > unevenly and can have hot spots (apparently there > are many serious injuries from this practice). You > additionally don't want to use the microwave for emm > because it destroys some of the unique properties. I > heard it explained that emm is a living substance, > and no living thing would do too well with being > microwaved! > > Feel free to email me directly if you have > questions. I have just stopped pumping for my 1yo. > > Lynn ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 Thanks, Lynn, for the website and for the info. Thanks, especially, for explaining about the bottle " frames " with liner bags. Can a person pump directly into a liner bag? Are there any problems associated with using them, for the baby?? Also, this is probably a REALLY dumb question, but is there anything special that you need to do when washing a bottle that is used for emm? Do you have to sterilize them like you do for formula bottles, and if so, HOW do you sterilize them? Thanks so much! ---------------------------------------------------> > Check out http://www.pumpingmoms.org for tons of > useful information on pumping and storage. > > The PIS won't connect directly to the Avent bottles > without an adapter (which you can purchase). It will > connect directly to any " standard " baby bottle, like > the Gerger bottles you buy in bulk at Walmart. You > can also pump into the collection bottles which come > with the PIS (basically they are like gerber > bottles) and then transfer the emm to whatever you > want. > > Many people like disposable bottle systems, where > you have just a few bottle frames that use a new bag > each time, so you don't have to wash the entire > bottle. You can pump into a disposable bag. These > are different than the bags used for storage! > > If you freeze milk you defrost it by putting it in > the refrigerator the night before you expect to need > it and letting it gradually thaw OR setting it in a > coffee cup of warm (not hot) water to defrost in > about 15 minutes. You don't want to use the > microwave for formula OR emm because it heats > unevenly and can have hot spots (apparently there > are many serious injuries from this practice). You > additionally don't want to use the microwave for emm > because it destroys some of the unique properties. I > heard it explained that emm is a living substance, > and no living thing would do too well with being > microwaved! > > Feel free to email me directly if you have > questions. I have just stopped pumping for my 1yo. > > Lynn ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > > Here is a url that compares breast pumps. I was > > originally going to get the > > PIS but I settled on the Ameda Purely Yours. PIS is > > marketed WAY better > > than the PY which is why you hear more about the > > PIS. But the PY is a great > > pump. Abby and I had a LOT of trouble nursing in > > the beginning and this > > pump held up very well and I really like it. > > http://breastpumps-etc.com/compare.html > > The Ameda one is also a bit less expensive -- every > little bit helps, right now! I was sort of liking the > car adapter cord on the P-I-S...can anyone tell me how > useful that REALLY is, in everyday life? If you decided on the Ameda I can give you the url of where I got mine. I think I paid 130 for it. But I also got the car adapter and the flexi shields which cost more. A friend of mine found an unused one on Ebay for 125.00. Medela wont let the retailers sell the PIS for anything less which is why its so expensive. I was pumping a lot...Abby wouldnt nurse so I was pumping and feeding her a bottle of expressed breast milk. As for the car adapter, I nursed in the car more than a couple of times. If we had something going on outside the house for an extended period of time (more than 2 hours was considered extended back then) then I would pump. I like the Ameda because it can also be removed from the bag unlike the PIS. So since I was doing so much pumping I didnt have to have that black bag sitting out all the time. > Thanks for the heads-up, Jen...I do hope that they > stay focused on helping people make the most out of > the situations they HAVE, rather than trying to make > people feel guilty for their choices and needs. Not > everyone has the ability, emotionally or financially, > to be a SAHM! Good luck and let us know how your meeting went. -Jen -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.TheElliotts.org CUR #153 ICQ#875060 I was born Creative, not Patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 , I also started out with only the Nursing Mother's Companion Guide. It took me a long time to appreciate the wealth of info in the Womanly Art--I think I was overwhelmed. The NMCG is my quick reference now since it has the little help sections. Amy Lynn mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 , > How long is it " safe " to keep milk in the fridge? And > how long can you keep it frozen? Milk can be kept in the fridge a week, and frozen 3-6 months--short end for the over the fridge unit, long end for the deep freeze style freezer. > > > When I frze milk, I > > actually froze it into ice cube trays, thne popped > > them out and put them > > into freezer bags to store. That way I could thaw a > > little or a lot > > depending on what I needed at the time. > A lot of working moms will have " snack size " offerings as well as " meal size " offerings. Snack sizes would be an ounce or two--like a couple of ice cubes, and meal size offerings would be enough for a full bottle--say 4 ounces or more depending on age. > But even if I can break up my lunch break so that I > can do two nursings a day, I'll still want to leave > bottles at the day care for the baby's interim > feedings. Since you won't be going back until six months you would also have the option of going straight to a cup and not giving a bottle at all. > > Also, I'd like to be able to let my husband give the > baby a bottle of expressed milk for one feeding a day, > so that he has a chance to bond with the baby, too. > Not until the baby really understands how to nurse, of > course, but eventually, I think it would be a nice > ritual for daddy and baby, in the evening after daddy > comes home from work, or maybe the " bedtime " feeding. > Has anyone here tried this sort of thing, and does it > work? We tried, but a move when Ds was 2 months old ended it--the bottles were packed for three weeks and he never wanted another bottle. However, my husband bonded with DS then (and now with DD) by wearing the baby in a sling, diaper changes, baths, rocking, reading, games. He takes turns sitting in the back seat of the car with the little baby who doesn't want to be alone on car trips. As for the bedtime feeding--this is the best time for nursing in my opinion. My children like to " tank up " before bed. This is a switch-hitting nursing time. Neither one nurses more than one breast at a regular feeding, but at bedtime there are three feedings about 1 hour apart each and the last feeding is both breasts. During this two hour stretch we ensure tomorrow's milk supply, since bm is produced by demand and supply. If daddy wants to give a bottle feeding, the middle of the night or right after work is better--but please wait a minimum of 6 weeks to prevent nipple confusion and supply problems. Welcome, Amy Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 I would like to add here that my dh found other ways to bond with our breastfed babies. Our first was bottle fed because bfing didn't work and my dh did enjoy feeding Arran, even got up in the middle of the night and actually reflects warmly on those quiet 3 am feeding. He thought he wanted to be able to do that with Keely but she would never take a bottle and trying to get her to accept one was stressful so we stopped. So he became the expert burper, he was able to burp Keely and Rowan much better than me for some reason. He has since learned that he bonded very well with her regardless of not being able to feed her and is very attached to Rowan too. He loves putting the baby to sleep (Keely would only nurse to sleep but Rowan sucks a soother to sleep), he has developed his own rituals with Rowan, he turns the music on and walks around or sways to the music with Rowan's head on his shoulder to put him to sleep, then he likes to sit in the rocking chair or lay back on the couch with Rowan sleeping on him. Plus he loves sleeping with the babies and cuddling them in the middle of the night :-) Our Keely climbs in with us at some point every night and she is a great cuddler, always has her arm wrapped around one of us. You asked about pumping into baggies or bottles? The Avent Isis pump which I just bought is a nice manual pump for occasional use, you can pump into a plastic bottle or into the disposable bottle with the baggie in it, saving you a step if you plan on freezing it :-) That's why I bought the disposable system. I also bought a bottle to convert into a sippy cup and I can pump into it too. Michele, mom of Arran 12-27-93, Keely 12-5-97 & Rowan 3-15-00! ICQ# 13092478Our Family Pages ~ http://www.telusplanet.net/public/jcrocker/index.htmlJoin AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web! Please use my ID (GJX196) when asked if someone referred you. Thanks! http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=GJX196 Do your eyes light up when your child walks into the room? ~ Toni on ,There are so many ways for your husband to bond with your baby that heprobably won't feel he needs to give a nightly bottle. My dh has alwaysdone bath and book time around our house. It is a nice way for him to spendtime with our children after a hectic day. He also spent a good deal oftime with a baby strapped to him with either a sling or backpack. He feltthat he could spend really good quality bonding time that way. He wouldoften put on the sling at bedtime and wear the baby to sleep. It gave me anice break in the evening and didn't require a bottle or pumping to keep upsupply. I have to admit honestly that the nightly bottle idea reallyinterfered with my supply and caused a lot of latching difficulties with myson. He never had a bottle until after four months but he still got nippleconfusion. I have a hard time letting down to a pump so it was difficult tokeep up my supply if he got any bottles. Many mothers and babies do finewith a nightly bottle or with switching back and forth between the two. Ijust didn't have that experience. :)Wendihttp://www.lactivist.combreastfeeding resources and info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 My son got nipple confusion from the soft spout on the Avent bottle. He got used to chewing on that and wanted to chew on me when he was teething--ouch!! Amy Lynn mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 > Thanks for the heads-up, Jen...I do hope that they > stay focused on helping people make the most out of > the situations they HAVE, rather than trying to make > people feel guilty for their choices and needs. Not > everyone has the ability, emotionally or financially, > to be a SAHM! > , Both of the LLL groups I have attended were attended by both SAHM and Working women. There was never any sense that either choice was wrong. In fact both groups have a leader that works outside the home, too. Amy Lynn mother to 1-25-98 and 2-10-00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 M. Elliott wrote: > LLL meetings vary greatly! Unfortunately, the one in my area will rarely > answer a question in any sort of helpful way. Someone asked about breast > pumps at the last meeting and the LLL women told her that she didnt need to > pump because she should just stay with the baby all the time. Take what you > hear from everyone with a grain of salt. If they are helpful that is great...just > be sure to trust your instincts. That goes without saying though. Hopefully > your local LL chapter will be a great one...I know there are many out > there...just so happens the one in my area isnt so good. I am in the same boat, here. When I went to LLL meeting when my first son was tiny the bias against moms who work outside the home -- even for a few hours a week -- was terrible. Several of us left and felt just awful, and fortunately I later hooked with an lc who was tremendously supportive. I really believe that breastfeeding rates will improve when efforts are made to support all woman who want to breastfeed, no matter what their employment status. Too many assume that if they plan to return to work then they cannot breastfeed. They assume that formula feeding will be easier. And, while I know nipple confusion is real for many babies, it does not happen to all babies. I know of many, many babies who have a bottle of ebm sometimes and breastfeed the rest of the time, as mine both did. On the one hand I know nipple confusion can be a problem, on the other hand I also know that moms who plan to work hear these stories about nipple confusion ending nursing and they figure, why breastfeed, then? I know of a pediatrician who tells moms not to bother breastfeeding at all if they plan to work during the first year, he tells them all about nipple confusion and that it isn't worth it, etc. I get so mad when I hear other mothers who have been told this and hence didn't breastfeed! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 M. Elliott wrote: > LLL meetings vary greatly! Unfortunately, the one in my area will rarely > answer a question in any sort of helpful way. Someone asked about breast > pumps at the last meeting and the LLL women told her that she didnt need to > pump because she should just stay with the baby all the time. Take what you > hear from everyone with a grain of salt. If they are helpful that is great...just > be sure to trust your instincts. That goes without saying though. Hopefully > your local LL chapter will be a great one...I know there are many out > there...just so happens the one in my area isnt so good. I am in the same boat, here. When I went to LLL meeting when my first son was tiny the bias against moms who work outside the home -- even for a few hours a week -- was terrible. Several of us left and felt just awful, and fortunately I later hooked with an lc who was tremendously supportive. I really believe that breastfeeding rates will improve when efforts are made to support all woman who want to breastfeed, no matter what their employment status. Too many assume that if they plan to return to work then they cannot breastfeed. They assume that formula feeding will be easier. And, while I know nipple confusion is real for many babies, it does not happen to all babies. I know of many, many babies who have a bottle of ebm sometimes and breastfeed the rest of the time, as mine both did. On the one hand I know nipple confusion can be a problem, on the other hand I also know that moms who plan to work hear these stories about nipple confusion ending nursing and they figure, why breastfeed, then? I know of a pediatrician who tells moms not to bother breastfeeding at all if they plan to work during the first year, he tells them all about nipple confusion and that it isn't worth it, etc. I get so mad when I hear other mothers who have been told this and hence didn't breastfeed! Margaret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 , Like I said that isn't everyone's experience, many babies switch back and forth without a problem. Many babies go to daycare without ever taking a bottle. I have a friend whose baby was very young going to daycare (around 3 months) and refused a bottle and was cup fed during daycare from 3 months on. Don't worry by the time your baby is going to daycare you will have a plan, whether it is bottles or cup won't really matter, you will figure it out with your baby. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: Confused Oh, that's scary...because when he's 6 months old, our baby will need to be able to take a bottle during the day when he's in day care. I sure do hope he doesn't stop wanting to nurse because of that. My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 , Like I said that isn't everyone's experience, many babies switch back and forth without a problem. Many babies go to daycare without ever taking a bottle. I have a friend whose baby was very young going to daycare (around 3 months) and refused a bottle and was cup fed during daycare from 3 months on. Don't worry by the time your baby is going to daycare you will have a plan, whether it is bottles or cup won't really matter, you will figure it out with your baby. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: Confused Oh, that's scary...because when he's 6 months old, our baby will need to be able to take a bottle during the day when he's in day care. I sure do hope he doesn't stop wanting to nurse because of that. My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2000 Report Share Posted August 25, 2000 , Like I said that isn't everyone's experience, many babies switch back and forth without a problem. Many babies go to daycare without ever taking a bottle. I have a friend whose baby was very young going to daycare (around 3 months) and refused a bottle and was cup fed during daycare from 3 months on. Don't worry by the time your baby is going to daycare you will have a plan, whether it is bottles or cup won't really matter, you will figure it out with your baby. Wendi http://www.lactivist.com breastfeeding resources and info Re: Confused Oh, that's scary...because when he's 6 months old, our baby will need to be able to take a bottle during the day when he's in day care. I sure do hope he doesn't stop wanting to nurse because of that. My husband and I were thinking, we could both break up our lunch hour, so that we spend half an hour as a family, at the day care, and then I'll take the other half hour to nurse in either the morning or afternoon, and Lee can go give the baby a bottle with HIS other half hour...so the baby gets 3 feedings a day from his parents. But if they can still get nipple confusion when they're older, yikes! that won't work!!!! :< ===== Our Gang: http://members.home.net/leecookson/ ------------------------------------------------------ " We will either find a way, or make one! " -- Hannibal __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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