Re:A Fib begins afer excercise (answering both yor posts in 1)

[Guest guest]

Oh Trudy,

I do understand that fragile feeling. Congratulatons on tackling the lawn

though!

Im trying to not let it get me down (that feeling ! It is disheartening dont

you think?) and trying to just accept feeling sometimes fragile after

exertion.

I'm not sure yet if the emotional aspects of that feeling are making me feel

worse than the actual physical effects alone would make me feel.

Im really fairly new to this (Afib), although looking back I can think of

many instances where I had breathlessness that may have been due to silent Afib

over the years. I also always wondered why dental anaesthetics made me

breathless , but the day after the dental visit. I now have a dentist that

doesnt use

adrenalin in his injections and I think it must have been the adrenalin, all

along.

I can also remember isolated incidences where I would go for a fast walk when

I was very fit, and would unforseeably run out of breath and have a real

problem carrying on. It used to scare me, and my Doctor could never find

anything

wrong, such as asthma etc.

Maybe I have had this some time before it made itself known to me, as it

sounds Guy had also.

If it helps, I do understand your apprehension on excercise. I'm working on

overcoming mine, to keep the rest of the body and heart muscle fit though I

hear what youre saying about afib begets afib.

My overall feeling is that if the heart is fitter it will be more likely to

perform 'as it should', and I do feel my overall number of episodes of Afib are

less when I am active, so I'm aiming to keep a low level of normal activity

going as much as I can.

I also am thinking that the more active I am, the less cortisol and adrenalin

will build up in my bloodstream and that will be better for controlling the

Afib.

I am really still trying out the excercise levels , and trying to maintain a

normal level of activity. If I find the Afib increasing dramatically because

of excercise, I will review it, but at present Im working on the theory that it

will take some time to get 'fit', so meanwhile I am trying to stay unruffled

by the episodes brought on by excercise and I think as they are less, Im not

sure Im too worried about Afib begetting Afib..or at least............ Afib

supposedly gets gradually worse anyway over time , (though not everyone's) so a

fit heart maybe pumping more efficiently when in NSR, so that is what I am

aiming for at present.

In truth the cardiologists seems as baffled as we are as to what is best for

it so I think, it is a case of listen to your body or ignore it as best you

can...lol..depending on what makes your personal quality of life better!

Im trying the latter at present! But nothing is set in stone, I may review

things, and decide to live within my limitations!!

Hope you found someone to mow your lawn!

Haze , 47yrs, Uk,cardicor, plavix.

In a message dated 23/04/2004 03:25:16 GMT Standard Time, trudyjh@...

writes:

> In AFIBsupport , whisper2Uxxxx@a... wrote:

> >Have you had a stress test during excercise to confirm your

> suspicions that

> >you only get AFTER excercise (and not during)?

>

>

> Actually both things can happen. (In my last stress test I threw 0

> pacs and 0 pvcs and went into afib about ten minutes after the test

> was over.) This afternoon I made a heroic :-) effort to mow the

> grass with a push lawnmower (the guy was I hired to cut the grass has

> vanished from the planet) and soon stopped when it was clear this was

> a mistake, but have been " fragile " the rest of the day.

>

>

and in a second post:

Haze and Guy, the thing that worries me about exercising into afib is

the " afib begets afib " problem.  What are your thoughts/experience

with this?  It sounds like our cardiologists agree, but they aren't

the ones with afib :-)

[Guest guest]

Oh Trudy,

I do understand that fragile feeling. Congratulatons on tackling the lawn

though!

Im trying to not let it get me down (that feeling ! It is disheartening dont

you think?) and trying to just accept feeling sometimes fragile after

exertion.

I'm not sure yet if the emotional aspects of that feeling are making me feel

worse than the actual physical effects alone would make me feel.

Im really fairly new to this (Afib), although looking back I can think of

many instances where I had breathlessness that may have been due to silent Afib

over the years. I also always wondered why dental anaesthetics made me

breathless , but the day after the dental visit. I now have a dentist that

doesnt use

adrenalin in his injections and I think it must have been the adrenalin, all

along.

I can also remember isolated incidences where I would go for a fast walk when

I was very fit, and would unforseeably run out of breath and have a real

problem carrying on. It used to scare me, and my Doctor could never find

anything

wrong, such as asthma etc.

Maybe I have had this some time before it made itself known to me, as it

sounds Guy had also.

If it helps, I do understand your apprehension on excercise. I'm working on

overcoming mine, to keep the rest of the body and heart muscle fit though I

hear what youre saying about afib begets afib.

My overall feeling is that if the heart is fitter it will be more likely to

perform 'as it should', and I do feel my overall number of episodes of Afib are

less when I am active, so I'm aiming to keep a low level of normal activity

going as much as I can.

I also am thinking that the more active I am, the less cortisol and adrenalin

will build up in my bloodstream and that will be better for controlling the

Afib.

I am really still trying out the excercise levels , and trying to maintain a

normal level of activity. If I find the Afib increasing dramatically because

of excercise, I will review it, but at present Im working on the theory that it

will take some time to get 'fit', so meanwhile I am trying to stay unruffled

by the episodes brought on by excercise and I think as they are less, Im not

sure Im too worried about Afib begetting Afib..or at least............ Afib

supposedly gets gradually worse anyway over time , (though not everyone's) so a

fit heart maybe pumping more efficiently when in NSR, so that is what I am

aiming for at present.

In truth the cardiologists seems as baffled as we are as to what is best for

it so I think, it is a case of listen to your body or ignore it as best you

can...lol..depending on what makes your personal quality of life better!

Im trying the latter at present! But nothing is set in stone, I may review

things, and decide to live within my limitations!!

Hope you found someone to mow your lawn!

Haze , 47yrs, Uk,cardicor, plavix.

In a message dated 23/04/2004 03:25:16 GMT Standard Time, trudyjh@...

writes:

> In AFIBsupport , whisper2Uxxxx@a... wrote:

> >Have you had a stress test during excercise to confirm your

> suspicions that

> >you only get AFTER excercise (and not during)?

>

>

> Actually both things can happen. (In my last stress test I threw 0

> pacs and 0 pvcs and went into afib about ten minutes after the test

> was over.) This afternoon I made a heroic :-) effort to mow the

> grass with a push lawnmower (the guy was I hired to cut the grass has

> vanished from the planet) and soon stopped when it was clear this was

> a mistake, but have been " fragile " the rest of the day.

>

>

and in a second post:

Haze and Guy, the thing that worries me about exercising into afib is

the " afib begets afib " problem.  What are your thoughts/experience

with this?  It sounds like our cardiologists agree, but they aren't

the ones with afib :-)

[Guest guest]

Oh Trudy,

I do understand that fragile feeling. Congratulatons on tackling the lawn

though!

Im trying to not let it get me down (that feeling ! It is disheartening dont

you think?) and trying to just accept feeling sometimes fragile after

exertion.

I'm not sure yet if the emotional aspects of that feeling are making me feel

worse than the actual physical effects alone would make me feel.

Im really fairly new to this (Afib), although looking back I can think of

many instances where I had breathlessness that may have been due to silent Afib

over the years. I also always wondered why dental anaesthetics made me

breathless , but the day after the dental visit. I now have a dentist that

doesnt use

adrenalin in his injections and I think it must have been the adrenalin, all

along.

I can also remember isolated incidences where I would go for a fast walk when

I was very fit, and would unforseeably run out of breath and have a real

problem carrying on. It used to scare me, and my Doctor could never find

anything

wrong, such as asthma etc.

Maybe I have had this some time before it made itself known to me, as it

sounds Guy had also.

If it helps, I do understand your apprehension on excercise. I'm working on

overcoming mine, to keep the rest of the body and heart muscle fit though I

hear what youre saying about afib begets afib.

My overall feeling is that if the heart is fitter it will be more likely to

perform 'as it should', and I do feel my overall number of episodes of Afib are

less when I am active, so I'm aiming to keep a low level of normal activity

going as much as I can.

I also am thinking that the more active I am, the less cortisol and adrenalin

will build up in my bloodstream and that will be better for controlling the

Afib.

I am really still trying out the excercise levels , and trying to maintain a

normal level of activity. If I find the Afib increasing dramatically because

of excercise, I will review it, but at present Im working on the theory that it

will take some time to get 'fit', so meanwhile I am trying to stay unruffled

by the episodes brought on by excercise and I think as they are less, Im not

sure Im too worried about Afib begetting Afib..or at least............ Afib

supposedly gets gradually worse anyway over time , (though not everyone's) so a

fit heart maybe pumping more efficiently when in NSR, so that is what I am

aiming for at present.

In truth the cardiologists seems as baffled as we are as to what is best for

it so I think, it is a case of listen to your body or ignore it as best you

can...lol..depending on what makes your personal quality of life better!

Im trying the latter at present! But nothing is set in stone, I may review

things, and decide to live within my limitations!!

Hope you found someone to mow your lawn!

Haze , 47yrs, Uk,cardicor, plavix.

In a message dated 23/04/2004 03:25:16 GMT Standard Time, trudyjh@...

writes:

> In AFIBsupport , whisper2Uxxxx@a... wrote:

> >Have you had a stress test during excercise to confirm your

> suspicions that

> >you only get AFTER excercise (and not during)?

>

>

> Actually both things can happen. (In my last stress test I threw 0

> pacs and 0 pvcs and went into afib about ten minutes after the test

> was over.) This afternoon I made a heroic :-) effort to mow the

> grass with a push lawnmower (the guy was I hired to cut the grass has

> vanished from the planet) and soon stopped when it was clear this was

> a mistake, but have been " fragile " the rest of the day.

>

>

and in a second post:

Haze and Guy, the thing that worries me about exercising into afib is

the " afib begets afib " problem.  What are your thoughts/experience

with this?  It sounds like our cardiologists agree, but they aren't

the ones with afib :-)

[Guest guest]

> .....

> I'm not sure yet if the emotional aspects of that feeling are

making me feel

> worse than the actual physical effects alone would make me feel.

Hi, Haze,

I do agree. I just realized recently that sometimes I have been

depressed about afib, when what is really happening at that very

moment is I am in sinus but overwhelmed with anxiety. So I now try

to relax in those situations.

> I also am thinking that the more active I am, the less cortisol and

adrenalin

> will build up in my bloodstream and that will be better for

controlling the

> Afib.

My hope as well.

> Afib

> supposedly gets gradually worse anyway over time , (though not

everyone's)

We have a lot of cases here where there is no progression, or people

have actually improved over time as they have learned about lifestyle

changes, etc. I cling to that :-)

Thanks a lot for your advice.

[Guest guest]

> .....

> I'm not sure yet if the emotional aspects of that feeling are

making me feel

> worse than the actual physical effects alone would make me feel.

Hi, Haze,

I do agree. I just realized recently that sometimes I have been

depressed about afib, when what is really happening at that very

moment is I am in sinus but overwhelmed with anxiety. So I now try

to relax in those situations.

> I also am thinking that the more active I am, the less cortisol and

adrenalin

> will build up in my bloodstream and that will be better for

controlling the

> Afib.

My hope as well.

> Afib

> supposedly gets gradually worse anyway over time , (though not

everyone's)

We have a lot of cases here where there is no progression, or people

have actually improved over time as they have learned about lifestyle

changes, etc. I cling to that :-)

Thanks a lot for your advice.