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In a message dated 4/2/2004 6:54:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Listen-Up writes:

The ENT

said the longer we wait, the better she is likely to do with the

implant.

Cheryl,

I'm just wondering if you may have misqouted the ENT. It seems that he would

say the opposite. I always thought they wanted to implant as early as

possible, not wait. What is his reasoning.

My son was implanted at 20 months and we really struggled over the decision

because it seemed he got some benefit from the aids. We could only judge that

benefit from his responses on a daily basis because at such a young age it was

very difficult to figure things out in the booth. I know on paper all the

professionals were convinced of the need to implant. He had a profound loss. I

suspected he had more residual hearing than they originally thought, but as I

said, I think it's hard to tell when they're so young.

was definately a borderline candidate. I'd have to look at his

audiogram to see the actual dB loss but I think he was considered

severe/profound with

some benefit from his aids. At 20 months he had a lot of receptive language

but no expressive. Just a lot of babble.

's mom, 3.5 yrs, CI 7/30/02

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<<I'm just wondering if you may have misqouted the ENT. It seems that he would

say the opposite. I always thought they wanted to implant as early as

possible, not wait.>>

I think that this depends quite a bit on the child's age and the amount of

residual hearing they've had up until the CI is considered. Studies I've seen

conclude that early implantation for a child who is profoundly deaf at birth (or

at least pre-lingually) is desirable because what they hear with the CI is, and

will be, their only experience of sound. However, kids who are older and who

have the experience of language through residual hearing are often " ahead of the

game " and need only learn to correlate what they receive with the CI with what

they already know of sound and speech.

Carol - mom to , 7.11, mod to profound, LVAS

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This is obviously not a cut and dry situation. If you have a baby with

over a 90db loss then the implant is the way to go, and if one ear is

worse than the other ear then implant the worse ear and you can still

try the HA on the un-implanted ear.

It is when the loss is in the severe range when it gets more

complicated. Then they like you to try the HA's first. You can have

10 kids with a 80db loss and they will all get different benefit so you

have to try the HA's. I think when they say to implant early they

mean the kids with a profound loss. If you do get benefit from a HA

then you are stimulating the nerve and brain so to get a implant for

that child at a later age would still be beneficial because they were

receiving input all along. It is older deaf kids who choose to get a

implant at a older age who do not benefit because they had gone so

many years without stimulation.

- - What was your sons db loss when he was implanted? If it

was profound then that makes sense to get the implant. Even

though you will get some response with the hearing aid, most likely

you will not get the response at all frequencies. My daughter has a

CI and a HA and she does well with both but the CI is much more

consistent across frequencies so she is hearing better with that

across the board. If I just put in her HA you wouldn't know the

difference right away because they adapt to the levels they can hear

but over time you would notice a difference and once the CI is back

on she then gets more complete input. Don't waste time second

guessing you choice... you made the right choice. Does wear

a HA on the un-implanted ear?

It is such a complicated individual choice but as a parent I believe

you will know when they aren't getting enough and need the implant.

Karolyn Welch

(Mom to Alison 4 / CI & HA

and 7 and 9)

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To: Listen-Up

From: srkearns@...

Subject: Re: CI vs hearing aid

> In a message dated 4/2/2004 6:54:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Listen-Up writes:

> The ENT

> said the longer we wait, the better she is likely to do with the

> implant.

>

> Cheryl,

> I'm just wondering if you may have misqouted the ENT. It seems that he would

> say the opposite. I always thought they wanted to implant as early as

> possible, not wait. What is his reasoning.

> My son was implanted at 20 months and we really struggled over the decision

> because it seemed he got some benefit from the aids. We could only judge that

> benefit from his responses on a daily basis because at such a young age it was

> very difficult to figure things out in the booth. I know on paper all the

> professionals were convinced of the need to implant. He had a profound loss. I

> suspected he had more residual hearing than they originally thought, but as I

> said, I think it's hard to tell when they're so young.

> was definately a borderline candidate. I'd have to look at his

> audiogram to see the actual dB loss but I think he was considered

> severe/profound with

> some benefit from his aids. At 20 months he had a lot of receptive language

> but no expressive. Just a lot of babble.

>

>

> 's mom, 3.5 yrs, CI 7/30/02

>

>

>

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When they say implant early they don't necessarily mean those with a profound

loss they mean those who get little bennifit from hearing aids. If you have

tried hearing aids and they aren't working well anymore then you consider the

implant whether it is severe or profound. By early they mean usually before the

age of 5, but they usually want to do it as soon as possable. After the age of

5 it's not to say someone wouldn't bennefit as I think said if your child

has good language skills before loosing the majority of their hearing they would

usually do really well with an implant regardless of age. Of course if your

child looses the majority of hearing wheather they were very lingual before or

not and you wait years before implanting it most likely will be a little more

difficult for them to pick it up again after. If they are able to read lips

that can probably help in learning the new sounds but that is just my guess.

Re: CI vs hearing aid

> In a message dated 4/2/2004 6:54:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> Listen-Up writes:

> The ENT

> said the longer we wait, the better she is likely to do with the

> implant.

>

> Cheryl,

> I'm just wondering if you may have misqouted the ENT. It seems that he would

> say the opposite. I always thought they wanted to implant as early as

> possible, not wait. What is his reasoning.

> My son was implanted at 20 months and we really struggled over the decision

> because it seemed he got some benefit from the aids. We could only judge

that

> benefit from his responses on a daily basis because at such a young age it

was

> very difficult to figure things out in the booth. I know on paper all the

> professionals were convinced of the need to implant. He had a profound loss.

I

> suspected he had more residual hearing than they originally thought, but as

I

> said, I think it's hard to tell when they're so young.

> was definately a borderline candidate. I'd have to look at his

> audiogram to see the actual dB loss but I think he was considered

> severe/profound with

> some benefit from his aids. At 20 months he had a lot of receptive language

> but no expressive. Just a lot of babble.

>

>

> 's mom, 3.5 yrs, CI 7/30/02

>

>

>

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