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I found this Norma....... I don't remember ever reading

that we should do 3 days of NO CARB. hmmmmm......

The Lowcarb Retreat's Modified Rules of Induction

Modifications derived by combining original Atkins' Diet with The New Diet

Revolution. Essentially zero carbohydrates may be necessary for some

metabolically resistant heavyweights like myself to get into ketosis. taken

from the original located at http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html

which is itself taken from Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution.

Go get a copy of the books mentioned in " Before Starting " .

This page is only a rough sketch of the plan.

During the first three days, the plan consists of " essentially " zero grams

of carbohydrate. This should get most people safely into ketosis-lipolysis

On the fourth day your plan consists of no more than 20 grams of

carbohydrate. This allows for approximately 2 cups of salad greens or

vegetables (LOOSELY packed) or 1 cup of salad plus 2/3 cup of cooked

vegetables from the below 10% carbohydrate category.

When hungry, eat the amount, that makes you feel satisfied

but not stuffed. When not hungry, eat nothing or just a small

zero carb snack.

If a food is not listed on the plan, have absolutely none of it.

" Just one taste " is a prelude to failure.

The plan consists of pure proteins, pure fats (this means butter, olive oil

and mayonnaise are permitted), and combinations of protein and fat (this is

the mainstay of your diet). Foods with excessive carbohydrates are not on

this plan.

Using a carbohydrate gram counter, one could find other combinations

totaling less than 20 grams of carbohydrate. One would be using foods like

nuts, seeds, olives, avocados, cheeses, cream and sour cream, lemon and lime

juices, and low carbohydrate diet foods. Don't assume any food item is low

in carbohydrate.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Free Foods...there are no free foods, count those carbohydrates

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

----

Meat Fish Fowl Shellfish Eggs Cheese

Beef Tuna Chicken Oysters Scrambled Aged and fresh

Pork Salmon Turkey Mussels Fried Cow and goat

Lamb Sole Duck Clams Poached Cream cheese

Bacon Trout Goose Squid Soft boiled Cottage cheese

Veal Flounder Cornish Hen Shrimp Hard boiled Swiss

Ham Sardines Quail Lobster Deviled Cheddar

Venison Herring Pheasant Crabmeat Omelets Mozzarella

in fact, all meat in fact, all fish in fact, all fowl in fact, all

shellfish in fact, all eggs in fact, almost*

all cheeses

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

----

10% Carbohydrate or Less

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

----

Salad

Vegetables Salad

Herbs Vegetables

in

Addition Salad

Garnishes Spices Beverages

Alfalfa Sprouts Basil Artichoke Anchovies all spices to taste Water

Arugula Cilantro Asparagus Crumbled Crisp Bacon Mineral Water

Bok Choy Dill Avocado Grated Cheese Essence flavored Seltzer

Boston Lettuce Oregano Bamboo Shoots Minced hb Eggs Decaf Coffee/Tea

Celery Rosemary Bean Sprouts Sauteed mushrooms Diet Soda

Chicory Thyme Beet Greens Sour Cream Iced Tea

Chives Broccoli Cream

Cucumber Brussel Sprouts Spring Water

Endive Cabbage Club Soda

Escarole Cauliflower Herb Tea

Fennel Celery Root Clear Broth

Jicama Chard

Mache Christophene

Morels Collard Creens

Mushrooms Dandelion Greens

Olives Eggplant

Parsley Hearts of Palm

Peppers Kale

Posse Pied Kohlrabi

Radiccio Leeks

Radishes Okra

Romaine Onion

Sorrel Pumpkin

Rhubarb

Sauerkraut

Scallions

Snow Pea Pods

Spagheti Squash

Spinach

String or Wax Beans

Summer Squash

Tomato

Turnips

Water Chestnuts

Zucchini

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

----

Common Mistakes to avoid

Note, that the 14-day plan contains no fruit, no bread, no grains, no

starchy vegetables, no cream cheese, in fact NO DAIRY products other than 4

ozs daily of HARD aged cheese, 4 TBS heavy cream and some butter.

Avoid diet products unless they specifically state " no carbohydrates " . Most

dietetic foods are for fat-restricted, not carbohydrate-restricted diets.

The word " sugarless " is not sufficient. The products must state the

carbohydrate content, and that's what you go by.

No mistakes! A single stick of chewing gum or milk in your coffee could put

you back on level one for 3 days of essentially zero carbohydrates by

upsetting the new chemical balance in your body. Don't deliberately turn off

your fat mobilizing hormone with indiscretions.

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I did not read that either Dianne about 0 carb and I have been over that

book so many times the letters should be worn off. I printed that article

about induction that Joya gave me when I first started and read it last

night. I can not give up the coffee. I need to substitute it still fo r that

other bad habit I used to have. I am not having AS and creamer though.

Thanks for the article. It all helps. soon I will get to use my keto sticks

, a first for me.

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I did not read that either Dianne about 0 carb and I have been over that

book so many times the letters should be worn off. I printed that article

about induction that Joya gave me when I first started and read it last

night. I can not give up the coffee. I need to substitute it still fo r that

other bad habit I used to have. I am not having AS and creamer though.

Thanks for the article. It all helps. soon I will get to use my keto sticks

, a first for me.

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I did not read that either Dianne about 0 carb and I have been over that

book so many times the letters should be worn off. I printed that article

about induction that Joya gave me when I first started and read it last

night. I can not give up the coffee. I need to substitute it still fo r that

other bad habit I used to have. I am not having AS and creamer though.

Thanks for the article. It all helps. soon I will get to use my keto sticks

, a first for me.

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I drinking coffee right now and have had

1/2 atkins bar. My son is asking for eggs

for lunch. The temps are going up to 40

today............. so a long walk for me!!

Di

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OK, Dianne~ Come ashore!

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Oh goody Di. And get your whip and knowledge out because we need it. I don'tknow nuthin' about that induction stuff anymore.NNNPlease visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengersYou will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site - http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

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OK, Dianne~ Come ashore!

Re: NORMA- Robin's 18th Chance Island

Oh goody Di. And get your whip and knowledge out because we need it. I don'tknow nuthin' about that induction stuff anymore.NNNPlease visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengersYou will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site - http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

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OK, Dianne~ Come ashore!

Re: NORMA- Robin's 18th Chance Island

Oh goody Di. And get your whip and knowledge out because we need it. I don'tknow nuthin' about that induction stuff anymore.NNNPlease visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengersYou will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site - http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

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It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book in

Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did it!!!!

It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

:(((((((((((((((

I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

added lettuce!

Joya

> Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

> entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard

for

> most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . . .

> but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be good

> to do without supplements@!!!!!

> Jane

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It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book in

Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did it!!!!

It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

:(((((((((((((((

I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

added lettuce!

Joya

> Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

> entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard

for

> most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . . .

> but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be good

> to do without supplements@!!!!!

> Jane

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Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard for

most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . . .

but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be good

to do without supplements@!!!!!

Jane

Re: NORMA- Robin's 18th Chance Island

> I found this Norma....... I don't remember ever reading

> that we should do 3 days of NO CARB. hmmmmm......

>

> The Lowcarb Retreat's Modified Rules of Induction

> Modifications derived by combining original Atkins' Diet with The New Diet

> Revolution. Essentially zero carbohydrates may be necessary for some

> metabolically resistant heavyweights like myself to get into ketosis.

taken

> from the original located at

http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html

> which is itself taken from Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution.

>

> Go get a copy of the books mentioned in " Before Starting " .

> This page is only a rough sketch of the plan.

>

>

> During the first three days, the plan consists of " essentially " zero grams

> of carbohydrate. This should get most people safely into ketosis-lipolysis

>

>

> On the fourth day your plan consists of no more than 20 grams of

> carbohydrate. This allows for approximately 2 cups of salad greens or

> vegetables (LOOSELY packed) or 1 cup of salad plus 2/3 cup of cooked

> vegetables from the below 10% carbohydrate category.

>

> When hungry, eat the amount, that makes you feel satisfied

> but not stuffed. When not hungry, eat nothing or just a small

> zero carb snack.

>

>

> If a food is not listed on the plan, have absolutely none of it.

> " Just one taste " is a prelude to failure.

>

>

> The plan consists of pure proteins, pure fats (this means butter, olive

oil

> and mayonnaise are permitted), and combinations of protein and fat (this

is

> the mainstay of your diet). Foods with excessive carbohydrates are not on

> this plan.

>

>

> Using a carbohydrate gram counter, one could find other combinations

> totaling less than 20 grams of carbohydrate. One would be using foods like

> nuts, seeds, olives, avocados, cheeses, cream and sour cream, lemon and

lime

> juices, and low carbohydrate diet foods. Don't assume any food item is low

> in carbohydrate.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Free Foods...there are no free foods, count those carbohydrates

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Meat Fish Fowl Shellfish Eggs Cheese

> Beef Tuna Chicken Oysters Scrambled Aged and fresh

> Pork Salmon Turkey Mussels Fried Cow and goat

> Lamb Sole Duck Clams Poached Cream cheese

> Bacon Trout Goose Squid Soft boiled Cottage cheese

> Veal Flounder Cornish Hen Shrimp Hard boiled Swiss

> Ham Sardines Quail Lobster Deviled Cheddar

> Venison Herring Pheasant Crabmeat Omelets Mozzarella

> in fact, all meat in fact, all fish in fact, all fowl in fact, all

> shellfish in fact, all eggs in fact, almost*

> all cheeses

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> 10% Carbohydrate or Less

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Salad

> Vegetables Salad

> Herbs Vegetables

> in

> Addition Salad

> Garnishes Spices Beverages

> Alfalfa Sprouts Basil Artichoke Anchovies all spices to taste Water

> Arugula Cilantro Asparagus Crumbled Crisp Bacon Mineral Water

> Bok Choy Dill Avocado Grated Cheese Essence flavored Seltzer

> Boston Lettuce Oregano Bamboo Shoots Minced hb Eggs Decaf Coffee/Tea

> Celery Rosemary Bean Sprouts Sauteed mushrooms Diet Soda

> Chicory Thyme Beet Greens Sour Cream Iced Tea

> Chives Broccoli Cream

> Cucumber Brussel Sprouts Spring Water

> Endive Cabbage Club Soda

> Escarole Cauliflower Herb Tea

> Fennel Celery Root Clear Broth

> Jicama Chard

> Mache Christophene

> Morels Collard Creens

> Mushrooms Dandelion Greens

> Olives Eggplant

> Parsley Hearts of Palm

> Peppers Kale

> Posse Pied Kohlrabi

> Radiccio Leeks

> Radishes Okra

> Romaine Onion

> Sorrel Pumpkin

> Rhubarb

> Sauerkraut

> Scallions

> Snow Pea Pods

> Spagheti Squash

> Spinach

> String or Wax Beans

> Summer Squash

> Tomato

> Turnips

> Water Chestnuts

> Zucchini

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Common Mistakes to avoid

>

>

>

> Note, that the 14-day plan contains no fruit, no bread, no grains, no

> starchy vegetables, no cream cheese, in fact NO DAIRY products other than

4

> ozs daily of HARD aged cheese, 4 TBS heavy cream and some butter.

>

>

> Avoid diet products unless they specifically state " no carbohydrates " .

Most

> dietetic foods are for fat-restricted, not carbohydrate-restricted diets.

>

>

> The word " sugarless " is not sufficient. The products must state the

> carbohydrate content, and that's what you go by.

>

>

> No mistakes! A single stick of chewing gum or milk in your coffee could

put

> you back on level one for 3 days of essentially zero carbohydrates by

> upsetting the new chemical balance in your body. Don't deliberately turn

off

> your fat mobilizing hormone with indiscretions.

>

>

> Please visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengers

> You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

> To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...

> Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site -

http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

>

>

>

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Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard for

most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . . .

but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be good

to do without supplements@!!!!!

Jane

Re: NORMA- Robin's 18th Chance Island

> I found this Norma....... I don't remember ever reading

> that we should do 3 days of NO CARB. hmmmmm......

>

> The Lowcarb Retreat's Modified Rules of Induction

> Modifications derived by combining original Atkins' Diet with The New Diet

> Revolution. Essentially zero carbohydrates may be necessary for some

> metabolically resistant heavyweights like myself to get into ketosis.

taken

> from the original located at

http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html

> which is itself taken from Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution.

>

> Go get a copy of the books mentioned in " Before Starting " .

> This page is only a rough sketch of the plan.

>

>

> During the first three days, the plan consists of " essentially " zero grams

> of carbohydrate. This should get most people safely into ketosis-lipolysis

>

>

> On the fourth day your plan consists of no more than 20 grams of

> carbohydrate. This allows for approximately 2 cups of salad greens or

> vegetables (LOOSELY packed) or 1 cup of salad plus 2/3 cup of cooked

> vegetables from the below 10% carbohydrate category.

>

> When hungry, eat the amount, that makes you feel satisfied

> but not stuffed. When not hungry, eat nothing or just a small

> zero carb snack.

>

>

> If a food is not listed on the plan, have absolutely none of it.

> " Just one taste " is a prelude to failure.

>

>

> The plan consists of pure proteins, pure fats (this means butter, olive

oil

> and mayonnaise are permitted), and combinations of protein and fat (this

is

> the mainstay of your diet). Foods with excessive carbohydrates are not on

> this plan.

>

>

> Using a carbohydrate gram counter, one could find other combinations

> totaling less than 20 grams of carbohydrate. One would be using foods like

> nuts, seeds, olives, avocados, cheeses, cream and sour cream, lemon and

lime

> juices, and low carbohydrate diet foods. Don't assume any food item is low

> in carbohydrate.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Free Foods...there are no free foods, count those carbohydrates

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Meat Fish Fowl Shellfish Eggs Cheese

> Beef Tuna Chicken Oysters Scrambled Aged and fresh

> Pork Salmon Turkey Mussels Fried Cow and goat

> Lamb Sole Duck Clams Poached Cream cheese

> Bacon Trout Goose Squid Soft boiled Cottage cheese

> Veal Flounder Cornish Hen Shrimp Hard boiled Swiss

> Ham Sardines Quail Lobster Deviled Cheddar

> Venison Herring Pheasant Crabmeat Omelets Mozzarella

> in fact, all meat in fact, all fish in fact, all fowl in fact, all

> shellfish in fact, all eggs in fact, almost*

> all cheeses

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> 10% Carbohydrate or Less

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Salad

> Vegetables Salad

> Herbs Vegetables

> in

> Addition Salad

> Garnishes Spices Beverages

> Alfalfa Sprouts Basil Artichoke Anchovies all spices to taste Water

> Arugula Cilantro Asparagus Crumbled Crisp Bacon Mineral Water

> Bok Choy Dill Avocado Grated Cheese Essence flavored Seltzer

> Boston Lettuce Oregano Bamboo Shoots Minced hb Eggs Decaf Coffee/Tea

> Celery Rosemary Bean Sprouts Sauteed mushrooms Diet Soda

> Chicory Thyme Beet Greens Sour Cream Iced Tea

> Chives Broccoli Cream

> Cucumber Brussel Sprouts Spring Water

> Endive Cabbage Club Soda

> Escarole Cauliflower Herb Tea

> Fennel Celery Root Clear Broth

> Jicama Chard

> Mache Christophene

> Morels Collard Creens

> Mushrooms Dandelion Greens

> Olives Eggplant

> Parsley Hearts of Palm

> Peppers Kale

> Posse Pied Kohlrabi

> Radiccio Leeks

> Radishes Okra

> Romaine Onion

> Sorrel Pumpkin

> Rhubarb

> Sauerkraut

> Scallions

> Snow Pea Pods

> Spagheti Squash

> Spinach

> String or Wax Beans

> Summer Squash

> Tomato

> Turnips

> Water Chestnuts

> Zucchini

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Common Mistakes to avoid

>

>

>

> Note, that the 14-day plan contains no fruit, no bread, no grains, no

> starchy vegetables, no cream cheese, in fact NO DAIRY products other than

4

> ozs daily of HARD aged cheese, 4 TBS heavy cream and some butter.

>

>

> Avoid diet products unless they specifically state " no carbohydrates " .

Most

> dietetic foods are for fat-restricted, not carbohydrate-restricted diets.

>

>

> The word " sugarless " is not sufficient. The products must state the

> carbohydrate content, and that's what you go by.

>

>

> No mistakes! A single stick of chewing gum or milk in your coffee could

put

> you back on level one for 3 days of essentially zero carbohydrates by

> upsetting the new chemical balance in your body. Don't deliberately turn

off

> your fat mobilizing hormone with indiscretions.

>

>

> Please visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengers

> You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

> To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...

> Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site -

http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

>

>

>

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Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard for

most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . . .

but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be good

to do without supplements@!!!!!

Jane

Re: NORMA- Robin's 18th Chance Island

> I found this Norma....... I don't remember ever reading

> that we should do 3 days of NO CARB. hmmmmm......

>

> The Lowcarb Retreat's Modified Rules of Induction

> Modifications derived by combining original Atkins' Diet with The New Diet

> Revolution. Essentially zero carbohydrates may be necessary for some

> metabolically resistant heavyweights like myself to get into ketosis.

taken

> from the original located at

http://www.titanic.kn-bremen.de/induction.html

> which is itself taken from Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution.

>

> Go get a copy of the books mentioned in " Before Starting " .

> This page is only a rough sketch of the plan.

>

>

> During the first three days, the plan consists of " essentially " zero grams

> of carbohydrate. This should get most people safely into ketosis-lipolysis

>

>

> On the fourth day your plan consists of no more than 20 grams of

> carbohydrate. This allows for approximately 2 cups of salad greens or

> vegetables (LOOSELY packed) or 1 cup of salad plus 2/3 cup of cooked

> vegetables from the below 10% carbohydrate category.

>

> When hungry, eat the amount, that makes you feel satisfied

> but not stuffed. When not hungry, eat nothing or just a small

> zero carb snack.

>

>

> If a food is not listed on the plan, have absolutely none of it.

> " Just one taste " is a prelude to failure.

>

>

> The plan consists of pure proteins, pure fats (this means butter, olive

oil

> and mayonnaise are permitted), and combinations of protein and fat (this

is

> the mainstay of your diet). Foods with excessive carbohydrates are not on

> this plan.

>

>

> Using a carbohydrate gram counter, one could find other combinations

> totaling less than 20 grams of carbohydrate. One would be using foods like

> nuts, seeds, olives, avocados, cheeses, cream and sour cream, lemon and

lime

> juices, and low carbohydrate diet foods. Don't assume any food item is low

> in carbohydrate.

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Free Foods...there are no free foods, count those carbohydrates

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Meat Fish Fowl Shellfish Eggs Cheese

> Beef Tuna Chicken Oysters Scrambled Aged and fresh

> Pork Salmon Turkey Mussels Fried Cow and goat

> Lamb Sole Duck Clams Poached Cream cheese

> Bacon Trout Goose Squid Soft boiled Cottage cheese

> Veal Flounder Cornish Hen Shrimp Hard boiled Swiss

> Ham Sardines Quail Lobster Deviled Cheddar

> Venison Herring Pheasant Crabmeat Omelets Mozzarella

> in fact, all meat in fact, all fish in fact, all fowl in fact, all

> shellfish in fact, all eggs in fact, almost*

> all cheeses

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> 10% Carbohydrate or Less

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Salad

> Vegetables Salad

> Herbs Vegetables

> in

> Addition Salad

> Garnishes Spices Beverages

> Alfalfa Sprouts Basil Artichoke Anchovies all spices to taste Water

> Arugula Cilantro Asparagus Crumbled Crisp Bacon Mineral Water

> Bok Choy Dill Avocado Grated Cheese Essence flavored Seltzer

> Boston Lettuce Oregano Bamboo Shoots Minced hb Eggs Decaf Coffee/Tea

> Celery Rosemary Bean Sprouts Sauteed mushrooms Diet Soda

> Chicory Thyme Beet Greens Sour Cream Iced Tea

> Chives Broccoli Cream

> Cucumber Brussel Sprouts Spring Water

> Endive Cabbage Club Soda

> Escarole Cauliflower Herb Tea

> Fennel Celery Root Clear Broth

> Jicama Chard

> Mache Christophene

> Morels Collard Creens

> Mushrooms Dandelion Greens

> Olives Eggplant

> Parsley Hearts of Palm

> Peppers Kale

> Posse Pied Kohlrabi

> Radiccio Leeks

> Radishes Okra

> Romaine Onion

> Sorrel Pumpkin

> Rhubarb

> Sauerkraut

> Scallions

> Snow Pea Pods

> Spagheti Squash

> Spinach

> String or Wax Beans

> Summer Squash

> Tomato

> Turnips

> Water Chestnuts

> Zucchini

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> ----

>

> Common Mistakes to avoid

>

>

>

> Note, that the 14-day plan contains no fruit, no bread, no grains, no

> starchy vegetables, no cream cheese, in fact NO DAIRY products other than

4

> ozs daily of HARD aged cheese, 4 TBS heavy cream and some butter.

>

>

> Avoid diet products unless they specifically state " no carbohydrates " .

Most

> dietetic foods are for fat-restricted, not carbohydrate-restricted diets.

>

>

> The word " sugarless " is not sufficient. The products must state the

> carbohydrate content, and that's what you go by.

>

>

> No mistakes! A single stick of chewing gum or milk in your coffee could

put

> you back on level one for 3 days of essentially zero carbohydrates by

> upsetting the new chemical balance in your body. Don't deliberately turn

off

> your fat mobilizing hormone with indiscretions.

>

>

> Please visit our homepage at http://members.xoom.com/AChallengers

> You will find information, recipes, before and after pictures.

> To contact the list owner please send mail to lindag@...

> Visit our 2000 Train Tour Site -

http://www.brunnet.net/k & l/web_site_train_tour/actraintour.htm

>

>

>

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Probably...that came about because of the shock I had...my birthday (47) I

decide to treat myself to a day of shopping...could not find anything to fit

me in my size....nor the next size....visited my hairdresser who had lost 18

pounds doing that fad diet Atkins....and the next day I started. Three

months later I had lost 26+ pounds and was the skinniest I had been in

YEARS.

So aggravating that I can't do it again!!! I got older and less vain????? I

don't know!

Joya

bet if it was medically or otherwise necessary, you

> could do it that way again.

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What a visual that is!!! Our lovely blonde Joya as a spaghetti noodle on

the floor! I'm glad that you stuck with it so we could all meet you now!!!

You did NO CARB for *****5***** weeks????? You impress me as a very

determined woman. I'll bet if it was medically or otherwise necessary, you

could do it that way again.

:))

Jane

> It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book

in

> Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did

it!!!!

> It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

> :(((((((((((((((

>

> I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

> get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

> potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

> added lettuce!

>

> Joya

>

> > Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

> > entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard

> for

> > most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . .

..

> > but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be

good

> > to do without supplements@!!!!!

> > Jane

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What a visual that is!!! Our lovely blonde Joya as a spaghetti noodle on

the floor! I'm glad that you stuck with it so we could all meet you now!!!

You did NO CARB for *****5***** weeks????? You impress me as a very

determined woman. I'll bet if it was medically or otherwise necessary, you

could do it that way again.

:))

Jane

> It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book

in

> Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did

it!!!!

> It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

> :(((((((((((((((

>

> I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

> get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

> potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

> added lettuce!

>

> Joya

>

> > Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

> > entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard

> for

> > most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . .

..

> > but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be

good

> > to do without supplements@!!!!!

> > Jane

>

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What a visual that is!!! Our lovely blonde Joya as a spaghetti noodle on

the floor! I'm glad that you stuck with it so we could all meet you now!!!

You did NO CARB for *****5***** weeks????? You impress me as a very

determined woman. I'll bet if it was medically or otherwise necessary, you

could do it that way again.

:))

Jane

> It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book

in

> Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did

it!!!!

> It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

> :(((((((((((((((

>

> I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

> get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

> potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

> added lettuce!

>

> Joya

>

> > Is it true that the original diet that the good doctor developed had the

> > entire induction period being no carb??? But he figured it was too hard

> for

> > most people. Is that true?????? (Not the being too hard. . . :)) . .

..

> > but it surely would be an enormous challenge. Certainly wouldn't be

good

> > to do without supplements@!!!!!

> > Jane

>

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I think the biggest problem with getting leaner is making it a lifestyle

change. And letting go of the old ways of eating. They got us into trouble

before and if we continue with them, they'll get us into trouble again!!!

The whole process of eating takes such conscious involvement (to change)

that I think we sometimes get sick & tired of it.

Jane

>

> So aggravating that I can't do it again!!! I got older and less vain?????

I

> don't know!

>

> Joya

>

> bet if it was medically or otherwise necessary, you

> > could do it that way again.

>

>

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I know what u mean, first time I did induction (did it with the 20 carbs) while I did not get this bad, I had been doing low fat for a bit previously but had been exercising, so of course I could not get through my aerobics tapes and had to walk real slow wherever I went had no energy, took about 5 weeks for me to get back to normal...induction has never been so bad since then, perhaps cause one knows what to expect after that.

It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book in

Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did it!!!!

It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

:(((((((((((((((

I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

added lettuce!

Joya

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I know what u mean, first time I did induction (did it with the 20 carbs) while I did not get this bad, I had been doing low fat for a bit previously but had been exercising, so of course I could not get through my aerobics tapes and had to walk real slow wherever I went had no energy, took about 5 weeks for me to get back to normal...induction has never been so bad since then, perhaps cause one knows what to expect after that.

It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book in

Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did it!!!!

It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

:(((((((((((((((

I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

added lettuce!

Joya

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I know what u mean, first time I did induction (did it with the 20 carbs) while I did not get this bad, I had been doing low fat for a bit previously but had been exercising, so of course I could not get through my aerobics tapes and had to walk real slow wherever I went had no energy, took about 5 weeks for me to get back to normal...induction has never been so bad since then, perhaps cause one knows what to expect after that.

It is true...that is how I did it the first time (1997) as the only book in

Honduras was the first one...so if you didn't know better....you did it!!!!

It was not hard because I was determined...but I can't do it anymore

:(((((((((((((((

I did have to lay down on the kitchen floor the third day...and could not

get up ....total spaghetti in the muscles exhaustion (lack of

potassium)...but I was faithful for 5 weeks till I got his new book and

added lettuce!

Joya

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