Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Posted March 12, 2001 Someone may have already answered, but just go to yahoo groups and sign in. Once you go into my groups and click on this one, you will see a menu on the left which allows you to click messages and then see them all. Maggie Question... I have a new addy and I have already rejoined yahoogroups...but I missed like 2 days of messages. Can anyone tell me what I'd do to read past messages from the web? M Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi, I can only speak for myself but I went about 6 weeks post op without meds, as they wanted me totally hypo for my scan and RAI. As soon as I left my 3 days RAI isolation I began my meds. Best wishes, Lynn in New York PT 1/00, TT 3/00, RAI 5/00, clean scans 9/27/01 & 10/18/02 Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi, I can only speak for myself but I went about 6 weeks post op without meds, as they wanted me totally hypo for my scan and RAI. As soon as I left my 3 days RAI isolation I began my meds. Best wishes, Lynn in New York PT 1/00, TT 3/00, RAI 5/00, clean scans 9/27/01 & 10/18/02 Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi, I can only speak for myself but I went about 6 weeks post op without meds, as they wanted me totally hypo for my scan and RAI. As soon as I left my 3 days RAI isolation I began my meds. Best wishes, Lynn in New York PT 1/00, TT 3/00, RAI 5/00, clean scans 9/27/01 & 10/18/02 Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi , Post-op? post Total-Thyroidectomy? Just after this surgery they must to do a blood test measuring calcium, because the parathyroids are very close to thyroid gland; in my case they did two test (the last one the day after TT, that showed normal range of calcium, but the first one was under the right level). And if you are post TT you are waiting for RAI, doing the LID, off meds, isn´t? I´m confused, What your doctors told to you? Post again with more info, please. Cheers, Ana. wrote:Hi, I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi , Post-op? post Total-Thyroidectomy? Just after this surgery they must to do a blood test measuring calcium, because the parathyroids are very close to thyroid gland; in my case they did two test (the last one the day after TT, that showed normal range of calcium, but the first one was under the right level). And if you are post TT you are waiting for RAI, doing the LID, off meds, isn´t? I´m confused, What your doctors told to you? Post again with more info, please. Cheers, Ana. wrote:Hi, I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 Hi , Post-op? post Total-Thyroidectomy? Just after this surgery they must to do a blood test measuring calcium, because the parathyroids are very close to thyroid gland; in my case they did two test (the last one the day after TT, that showed normal range of calcium, but the first one was under the right level). And if you are post TT you are waiting for RAI, doing the LID, off meds, isn´t? I´m confused, What your doctors told to you? Post again with more info, please. Cheers, Ana. wrote:Hi, I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 > I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Hu , When is you doctor appointment? More importantly, how are you feeling? If you are tired, puffy, unable to concentrate, cold, having difficulty sleeping and generally feeling lousy, you can ask to have your TSH checked before your appointment. It's all relative to how long you have to wait for the appointment and how you are feeling. Your TSH needs to be greater than 30 (some docs prefer 50) before having a scanning or treatment dose of RAI. HTH, Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 > I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Hu , When is you doctor appointment? More importantly, how are you feeling? If you are tired, puffy, unable to concentrate, cold, having difficulty sleeping and generally feeling lousy, you can ask to have your TSH checked before your appointment. It's all relative to how long you have to wait for the appointment and how you are feeling. Your TSH needs to be greater than 30 (some docs prefer 50) before having a scanning or treatment dose of RAI. HTH, Quote
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2003 Report Posted February 3, 2003 > I have a question. I am 17 days post-op and I have not had any blood work done, or been on any medication, so I was wondering when they generally start doing something as the next step. Hu , When is you doctor appointment? More importantly, how are you feeling? If you are tired, puffy, unable to concentrate, cold, having difficulty sleeping and generally feeling lousy, you can ask to have your TSH checked before your appointment. It's all relative to how long you have to wait for the appointment and how you are feeling. Your TSH needs to be greater than 30 (some docs prefer 50) before having a scanning or treatment dose of RAI. HTH, Quote
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2003 Report Posted February 14, 2003 > Hi > > I have my rt done on nov,TT on jan 9; thycan foll /var pap... Rai on > march 17.. > I'm on Cytomel 25Mcg...should I be kind of hypo????...(I forget > everything...), and why are my eyes tearing up????????, specially in > the morning, not at night when I have my 1/2 cytomel...(I have 1 in > the morning) have your doctor check you T-3 on your next blood test. Cytomel is fast acting, It will be changed later to a T-4 (Synthroid) ps make sure you go to a endocronoligst they are your best bet on getting your med under control. I felft like superman when I was on cytomel (2X 25Mcg a day) Good luck its been 8 years for me and I feel great. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Posted March 14, 2004 Hey all, The reason that most deaf kids read at a 3/4 grade level is because that is when we begin to drift away from " sight words " and begin hard use of phonetic skills. If you can't hear the phonetics of a word it is hard to sound it out. That is where most deaf kids get lost. Look at a 3rd grade spelling list and then look at a 5th grade spelling list. I can remember spelling there / their in 4th grade and photosynthesis in 6th grade. See the difference? Don't ask me where I heard this but I do believe it was at that Carol Flexer conference I attended years ago. Maybe this helps and maybe it doesn't. Just sticking in my .02 worth. Gail Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Posted March 14, 2004 Hey all, The reason that most deaf kids read at a 3/4 grade level is because that is when we begin to drift away from " sight words " and begin hard use of phonetic skills. If you can't hear the phonetics of a word it is hard to sound it out. That is where most deaf kids get lost. Look at a 3rd grade spelling list and then look at a 5th grade spelling list. I can remember spelling there / their in 4th grade and photosynthesis in 6th grade. See the difference? Don't ask me where I heard this but I do believe it was at that Carol Flexer conference I attended years ago. Maybe this helps and maybe it doesn't. Just sticking in my .02 worth. Gail Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Posted March 14, 2004 Hey all, The reason that most deaf kids read at a 3/4 grade level is because that is when we begin to drift away from " sight words " and begin hard use of phonetic skills. If you can't hear the phonetics of a word it is hard to sound it out. That is where most deaf kids get lost. Look at a 3rd grade spelling list and then look at a 5th grade spelling list. I can remember spelling there / their in 4th grade and photosynthesis in 6th grade. See the difference? Don't ask me where I heard this but I do believe it was at that Carol Flexer conference I attended years ago. Maybe this helps and maybe it doesn't. Just sticking in my .02 worth. Gail Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Posted March 14, 2004 Hello all, I have a question for any of you to answer if you could. Our two daughters had some reading and language comprehension testing done several months ago. They are both in the 6th grade, and tested out at anywhere from 3.0 to 3.9 (grade level) reading/language comprehension. (This didn't surprise me as they were both adopted at a later age with either no language, or very limited language.) What did surprise me was this. Their TOD (teacher of the deaf) compared that to the " typical " deaf child, and they supposedly compared anywhere from 58% to 71% to the typical deaf child. She said the statistics showed those reading/language levels of 58% to 71% were consistent with the typical deaf child. Do any of you have any other hard facts or statistics to compare deaf individuals? I would certainly appreciate anything you have. My concern here is their huge language/reading delay with be pooh-poohed by the professionals that deal with them if they actually think just because you are deaf means you will only read to the 3rd or 4th grade level. Thanks ahead of time. Tish ***************************************************************** Quote-- " I am just as deaf as I am blind. The problems of deafness are deeper and more complex, if not more important than those of blindness. Deafness is a much worse misfortune for it means the loss of the most vital stimulus--the sound of voice that brings language, sets thoughts astir, and keeps us in the intellectual company of men " --Helen Keller ****************************************************************** Quote
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Posted March 14, 2004 I've been wondering a lot about this. As far as children who use ASL is it really hard for them to learn how to read? It's like learning a new language, they use different words and everything. With ASL everything is more literal than with english. I can say in english " see what I'm talking about? " but if I signed " see what I'm saying " they would be confused because of course they can't " see " what you are saying, it's more literal. So when you read english is it more hard to understand? Does it become like second nature? I don't know it's just the more sign I learn the more I realize how unliteral I really am and speak, so when I sign I have to think more literal and it's hard and I assume it would be the same for those primary ASL users that they have to learn to be more unliteral. Is that even a word? I'm sure you know what I mean. Re: Question... Hey all, The reason that most deaf kids read at a 3/4 grade level is because that is when we begin to drift away from " sight words " and begin hard use of phonetic skills. If you can't hear the phonetics of a word it is hard to sound it out. That is where most deaf kids get lost. Look at a 3rd grade spelling list and then look at a 5th grade spelling list. I can remember spelling there / their in 4th grade and photosynthesis in 6th grade. See the difference? Don't ask me where I heard this but I do believe it was at that Carol Flexer conference I attended years ago. Maybe this helps and maybe it doesn't. Just sticking in my .02 worth. Gail Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 Tish, This is not a plug for cued speech. Cued speech was invented by Dr. Cornett when he was teaching at Galludet and was astounded at how low the deaf students reading skills were. He believed that reading should be the window to a deaf persons world since they obviously could not hear. He went about trying to find a way to make the spoken English language visible so that the deaf person could assimilate the English language " naturally " and would have a stronger grasp of the language structure and phoenemes making it much easier to learn to read. The reading skills of cued speech kids is on par or above their hearing peers. This being said - there are parents on this list who have very successful kids who have grown up using ASL. Amy Question... Hello all, I have a question for any of you to answer if you could. Our two daughters had some reading and language comprehension testing done several months ago. They are both in the 6th grade, and tested out at anywhere from 3.0 to 3.9 (grade level) reading/language comprehension. (This didn't surprise me as they were both adopted at a later age with either no language, or very limited language.) What did surprise me was this. Their TOD (teacher of the deaf) compared that to the " typical " deaf child, and they supposedly compared anywhere from 58% to 71% to the typical deaf child. She said the statistics showed those reading/language levels of 58% to 71% were consistent with the typical deaf child. Do any of you have any other hard facts or statistics to compare deaf individuals? I would certainly appreciate anything you have. My concern here is their huge language/reading delay with be pooh-poohed by the professionals that deal with them if they actually think just because you are deaf means you will only read to the 3rd or 4th grade level. Thanks ahead of time. Tish ***************************************************************** Quote-- " I am just as deaf as I am blind. The problems of deafness are deeper and more complex, if not more important than those of blindness. Deafness is a much worse misfortune for it means the loss of the most vital stimulus--the sound of voice that brings language, sets thoughts astir, and keeps us in the intellectual company of men " --Helen Keller & nbsp; ****************************************************************** Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 Tish, This is not a plug for cued speech. Cued speech was invented by Dr. Cornett when he was teaching at Galludet and was astounded at how low the deaf students reading skills were. He believed that reading should be the window to a deaf persons world since they obviously could not hear. He went about trying to find a way to make the spoken English language visible so that the deaf person could assimilate the English language " naturally " and would have a stronger grasp of the language structure and phoenemes making it much easier to learn to read. The reading skills of cued speech kids is on par or above their hearing peers. This being said - there are parents on this list who have very successful kids who have grown up using ASL. Amy Question... Hello all, I have a question for any of you to answer if you could. Our two daughters had some reading and language comprehension testing done several months ago. They are both in the 6th grade, and tested out at anywhere from 3.0 to 3.9 (grade level) reading/language comprehension. (This didn't surprise me as they were both adopted at a later age with either no language, or very limited language.) What did surprise me was this. Their TOD (teacher of the deaf) compared that to the " typical " deaf child, and they supposedly compared anywhere from 58% to 71% to the typical deaf child. She said the statistics showed those reading/language levels of 58% to 71% were consistent with the typical deaf child. Do any of you have any other hard facts or statistics to compare deaf individuals? I would certainly appreciate anything you have. My concern here is their huge language/reading delay with be pooh-poohed by the professionals that deal with them if they actually think just because you are deaf means you will only read to the 3rd or 4th grade level. Thanks ahead of time. Tish ***************************************************************** Quote-- " I am just as deaf as I am blind. The problems of deafness are deeper and more complex, if not more important than those of blindness. Deafness is a much worse misfortune for it means the loss of the most vital stimulus--the sound of voice that brings language, sets thoughts astir, and keeps us in the intellectual company of men " --Helen Keller & nbsp; ****************************************************************** Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 Then they continue to read and see the word have, but misread it to mean own, instead of having it. There Yes that's what I was thinking, there are things like that if we are singing the phrase " I want to see you " we would not sign see we would sign meet. But if they are reading it they would read it as I want to see you and not really understand what that means. That would be one of the more easy ones to understand probably, but it's things like that. There was one my tutor was talking about like signing the phrase " Spring is comming " She said you wouldn't say comming because that would indicate something physical is moving toward you. You would say something like Spring is almost here or something like that. Anyway so if they see the word comming as an object moving toward you then that would make reading quite frustrating. And yes I think learning any language by reading it is hard. I can't immagine learning the actual spoken language withoug being able to hear it, that's like for me to learn sign and become fluent in it through a book, it just doesn't do things justice. Once you learn quite a bit books can be helpful, but learning it all is just not easy, how do you learn structure of it and all. I need to be corrected as well when I make mistakes. Anyway I just have been a little frustrated lately thinking how hard it is for little ASL users to learn how to read. Re: Question... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 Then they continue to read and see the word have, but misread it to mean own, instead of having it. There Yes that's what I was thinking, there are things like that if we are singing the phrase " I want to see you " we would not sign see we would sign meet. But if they are reading it they would read it as I want to see you and not really understand what that means. That would be one of the more easy ones to understand probably, but it's things like that. There was one my tutor was talking about like signing the phrase " Spring is comming " She said you wouldn't say comming because that would indicate something physical is moving toward you. You would say something like Spring is almost here or something like that. Anyway so if they see the word comming as an object moving toward you then that would make reading quite frustrating. And yes I think learning any language by reading it is hard. I can't immagine learning the actual spoken language withoug being able to hear it, that's like for me to learn sign and become fluent in it through a book, it just doesn't do things justice. Once you learn quite a bit books can be helpful, but learning it all is just not easy, how do you learn structure of it and all. I need to be corrected as well when I make mistakes. Anyway I just have been a little frustrated lately thinking how hard it is for little ASL users to learn how to read. Re: Question... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 Then they continue to read and see the word have, but misread it to mean own, instead of having it. There Yes that's what I was thinking, there are things like that if we are singing the phrase " I want to see you " we would not sign see we would sign meet. But if they are reading it they would read it as I want to see you and not really understand what that means. That would be one of the more easy ones to understand probably, but it's things like that. There was one my tutor was talking about like signing the phrase " Spring is comming " She said you wouldn't say comming because that would indicate something physical is moving toward you. You would say something like Spring is almost here or something like that. Anyway so if they see the word comming as an object moving toward you then that would make reading quite frustrating. And yes I think learning any language by reading it is hard. I can't immagine learning the actual spoken language withoug being able to hear it, that's like for me to learn sign and become fluent in it through a book, it just doesn't do things justice. Once you learn quite a bit books can be helpful, but learning it all is just not easy, how do you learn structure of it and all. I need to be corrected as well when I make mistakes. Anyway I just have been a little frustrated lately thinking how hard it is for little ASL users to learn how to read. Re: Question... Quote
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Posted March 15, 2004 I think cued speach is wonderful, although not for my son. He has so little understanding of spoken language that I know he wouldn't pick up on it very quickly. He is 3 and having issues with sign. I also was thinking after looking into it that it would take longer to pick up on because they need to become aware of certain sounds in the words and that would take a while to pick up on. However I am not totally writing it off, it just isn't right now. I am thinking in the future when shows the ability to pick up on sounds and try to talk (maybe in then near future since he is repeating some vowel sounds when it comes to music) we could use cues to help him to understand what the sounds are that he is having trouble hearing. I am thinking that could be a really good way to teach someone how to speak. I also have considered a modified form of it with my older non-hearing impared son who has speech delay. He is 5 and talks up a storm but he doesn't always hear certain sounds and or doesn't know how to put them together, so if we modified the cued speech once he learns the alphabet we could cue him with a sound he may not be using in a certain word to help him articulate. Anyway Any suggestions on cued speech and younger children would be great, I could be way off on this, I am making this assumption based soley on what I have read, and I don't know for sure how well it would work on younger children, I just know is reluctant to cooperate, because he still doesn't understand that sign can really be a form of communication, and wants to use gestures. RE: Question... Quote
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