Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 What melatonin do you order from Kirkman? Do you count the carbs? Everything I saw had sorbitol and some other " ols " in them. Is that ok? Thanks! Sorry for so many questions! , mom to Langan, 18 months old and keto kid since 11/03 RE: Sleep Help/ Melatonin/ , We gave Shan Melatonin and it worked wonders on her. It was taking her a couple hours to drop off into a deep sleep and she would have 15-20 seizures just trying to fall asleep. We gave her melatonin 1-2 hours before going to bed and she had no problems going to sleep. Her seizures reduced to about 1 when falling asleep. If I remember right she still had a seizure about every 4 hours while sleeping but her sleep improved tremendously. I'm guessing that her body was not naturally producing enough melatonin as the sun went down in preparation for sleep. After about a year of being on melatonin we actually were able to quit it and she continued to be able to fall asleep easily. Her seizures were much more controlled too. It's a great natural way of helping a child to get better rest especially during the difficult times of drug weaning. Over the past month we have noticed that Shan is not falling asleep as easily. Her nights have been more restless and she has had a few more seizures than usual. It's hard to get pure melatonin here in Australia so I have ordered it from Kirkman Labs there in the U.S. and it will be arriving next week. While I'm waiting for the melatonin, we have opted to try a herb called Valerian. I'm curious if anyone has tried it here on the list. I did some internet research on it and could not find anything bad. There are no long term use studies. It is likened to valium except that it is not addictive and does not have the side effects. If too high of dose is taken a person could feel sleepy the next day or a person could experience headaches or possible nightmares. Only serious problems reported were after a person took at least 10 times more than the recommended amount. For the past 4 nights I've been giving Shan half the dose recommended for an adult. Once again she is yawning and going to sleep fairly quickly. Curiously, in my research it said that in the 1700-1800's it was used for seizures. One person claimed to have been cured of epilepsy after taking Valerian. Today it is recommended for sleep and anxiety. Rhonda " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 , I ordered the melatonin Plus 1mg capsules. They list for ingredients magnesium and melatonin. I will not count any carbs for them. You could give Langan half of the capsule or even a little less than half. Any tablet you find you will probably have to cut it in half or 1/4ths. In the past I did give Shan melatonin made by GNC which contained rice powder. After talking with the GNC company I found out that the minimal rice powder is only a derivative of rice without any carbs. I did not count any carbs for it. The only reason I went with Kirkman Labs is because I had to order over the internet and I'm aware of their reputation for making hypoallergenic medications. I have also ordered other products from them. When I saw that they carried a no carb melatonin that's hypoallergenic, I did not hesitate to order. If I was in the U.S. right now I probably would have gone to the local health store and began reading all the labels. In the past I tried having my mother do that but everything she found had extras in it. Rhonda Re: Melatonin Question/Rhonda What melatonin do you order from Kirkman? Do you count the carbs? Everything I saw had sorbitol and some other " ols " in them. Is that ok? Thanks! Sorry for so many questions! , mom to Langan, 18 months old and keto kid since 11/03 RE: Sleep Help/ Melatonin/ , We gave Shan Melatonin and it worked wonders on her. It was taking her a couple hours to drop off into a deep sleep and she would have 15-20 seizures just trying to fall asleep. We gave her melatonin 1-2 hours before going to bed and she had no problems going to sleep. Her seizures reduced to about 1 when falling asleep. If I remember right she still had a seizure about every 4 hours while sleeping but her sleep improved tremendously. I'm guessing that her body was not naturally producing enough melatonin as the sun went down in preparation for sleep. After about a year of being on melatonin we actually were able to quit it and she continued to be able to fall asleep easily. Her seizures were much more controlled too. It's a great natural way of helping a child to get better rest especially during the difficult times of drug weaning. Over the past month we have noticed that Shan is not falling asleep as easily. Her nights have been more restless and she has had a few more seizures than usual. It's hard to get pure melatonin here in Australia so I have ordered it from Kirkman Labs there in the U.S. and it will be arriving next week. While I'm waiting for the melatonin, we have opted to try a herb called Valerian. I'm curious if anyone has tried it here on the list. I did some internet research on it and could not find anything bad. There are no long term use studies. It is likened to valium except that it is not addictive and does not have the side effects. If too high of dose is taken a person could feel sleepy the next day or a person could experience headaches or possible nightmares. Only serious problems reported were after a person took at least 10 times more than the recommended amount. For the past 4 nights I've been giving Shan half the dose recommended for an adult. Once again she is yawning and going to sleep fairly quickly. Curiously, in my research it said that in the 1700-1800's it was used for seizures. One person claimed to have been cured of epilepsy after taking Valerian. Today it is recommended for sleep and anxiety. Rhonda " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 , I ordered the melatonin Plus 1mg capsules. They list for ingredients magnesium and melatonin. I will not count any carbs for them. You could give Langan half of the capsule or even a little less than half. Any tablet you find you will probably have to cut it in half or 1/4ths. In the past I did give Shan melatonin made by GNC which contained rice powder. After talking with the GNC company I found out that the minimal rice powder is only a derivative of rice without any carbs. I did not count any carbs for it. The only reason I went with Kirkman Labs is because I had to order over the internet and I'm aware of their reputation for making hypoallergenic medications. I have also ordered other products from them. When I saw that they carried a no carb melatonin that's hypoallergenic, I did not hesitate to order. If I was in the U.S. right now I probably would have gone to the local health store and began reading all the labels. In the past I tried having my mother do that but everything she found had extras in it. Rhonda Re: Melatonin Question/Rhonda What melatonin do you order from Kirkman? Do you count the carbs? Everything I saw had sorbitol and some other " ols " in them. Is that ok? Thanks! Sorry for so many questions! , mom to Langan, 18 months old and keto kid since 11/03 RE: Sleep Help/ Melatonin/ , We gave Shan Melatonin and it worked wonders on her. It was taking her a couple hours to drop off into a deep sleep and she would have 15-20 seizures just trying to fall asleep. We gave her melatonin 1-2 hours before going to bed and she had no problems going to sleep. Her seizures reduced to about 1 when falling asleep. If I remember right she still had a seizure about every 4 hours while sleeping but her sleep improved tremendously. I'm guessing that her body was not naturally producing enough melatonin as the sun went down in preparation for sleep. After about a year of being on melatonin we actually were able to quit it and she continued to be able to fall asleep easily. Her seizures were much more controlled too. It's a great natural way of helping a child to get better rest especially during the difficult times of drug weaning. Over the past month we have noticed that Shan is not falling asleep as easily. Her nights have been more restless and she has had a few more seizures than usual. It's hard to get pure melatonin here in Australia so I have ordered it from Kirkman Labs there in the U.S. and it will be arriving next week. While I'm waiting for the melatonin, we have opted to try a herb called Valerian. I'm curious if anyone has tried it here on the list. I did some internet research on it and could not find anything bad. There are no long term use studies. It is likened to valium except that it is not addictive and does not have the side effects. If too high of dose is taken a person could feel sleepy the next day or a person could experience headaches or possible nightmares. Only serious problems reported were after a person took at least 10 times more than the recommended amount. For the past 4 nights I've been giving Shan half the dose recommended for an adult. Once again she is yawning and going to sleep fairly quickly. Curiously, in my research it said that in the 1700-1800's it was used for seizures. One person claimed to have been cured of epilepsy after taking Valerian. Today it is recommended for sleep and anxiety. Rhonda " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 , I ordered the melatonin Plus 1mg capsules. They list for ingredients magnesium and melatonin. I will not count any carbs for them. You could give Langan half of the capsule or even a little less than half. Any tablet you find you will probably have to cut it in half or 1/4ths. In the past I did give Shan melatonin made by GNC which contained rice powder. After talking with the GNC company I found out that the minimal rice powder is only a derivative of rice without any carbs. I did not count any carbs for it. The only reason I went with Kirkman Labs is because I had to order over the internet and I'm aware of their reputation for making hypoallergenic medications. I have also ordered other products from them. When I saw that they carried a no carb melatonin that's hypoallergenic, I did not hesitate to order. If I was in the U.S. right now I probably would have gone to the local health store and began reading all the labels. In the past I tried having my mother do that but everything she found had extras in it. Rhonda Re: Melatonin Question/Rhonda What melatonin do you order from Kirkman? Do you count the carbs? Everything I saw had sorbitol and some other " ols " in them. Is that ok? Thanks! Sorry for so many questions! , mom to Langan, 18 months old and keto kid since 11/03 RE: Sleep Help/ Melatonin/ , We gave Shan Melatonin and it worked wonders on her. It was taking her a couple hours to drop off into a deep sleep and she would have 15-20 seizures just trying to fall asleep. We gave her melatonin 1-2 hours before going to bed and she had no problems going to sleep. Her seizures reduced to about 1 when falling asleep. If I remember right she still had a seizure about every 4 hours while sleeping but her sleep improved tremendously. I'm guessing that her body was not naturally producing enough melatonin as the sun went down in preparation for sleep. After about a year of being on melatonin we actually were able to quit it and she continued to be able to fall asleep easily. Her seizures were much more controlled too. It's a great natural way of helping a child to get better rest especially during the difficult times of drug weaning. Over the past month we have noticed that Shan is not falling asleep as easily. Her nights have been more restless and she has had a few more seizures than usual. It's hard to get pure melatonin here in Australia so I have ordered it from Kirkman Labs there in the U.S. and it will be arriving next week. While I'm waiting for the melatonin, we have opted to try a herb called Valerian. I'm curious if anyone has tried it here on the list. I did some internet research on it and could not find anything bad. There are no long term use studies. It is likened to valium except that it is not addictive and does not have the side effects. If too high of dose is taken a person could feel sleepy the next day or a person could experience headaches or possible nightmares. Only serious problems reported were after a person took at least 10 times more than the recommended amount. For the past 4 nights I've been giving Shan half the dose recommended for an adult. Once again she is yawning and going to sleep fairly quickly. Curiously, in my research it said that in the 1700-1800's it was used for seizures. One person claimed to have been cured of epilepsy after taking Valerian. Today it is recommended for sleep and anxiety. Rhonda " The Ketogenic Diet....a realistic treatment option, NOT just a last resort! " List is for parent to parent support only. It is important to get medical advice from a professional keto team! Subscribe: ketogenic-subscribe Unsubscribe: ketogenic-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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