Re: Urgent rT3-question!!! (low body temps!) Val, adrenal advice please

December 2, 2009

Ok I'll just start taking 2 Iron pills instead of 1 every evening. Btw: What's

that talk about for every mg iron you add, you increase the chance of getting a

blood clot in the heart?

rT3: My FT3 from March is 5.7 and the rT3 is 0.55, this brings down to a ratio

of about 10! Why did I have that ratio back in March (prior to starting with HC)

while I was on 75/50 mcg T4 every other day only? I wonder why my rT3 was so

high back then.

>

> >My reshest Ferritin status is at 45. The range goes from 30 to 350 for adult

men, and I know I should have a Ferritin of 70 at least!

>

> Correct, that will be a cap on taking enough thyroid.

> >

> >I am now taking 25 mg of Amino Iron, Ferrochel standard. One pill every

evening around midnight.

>

> It will take more than that. Hopefully someone will chip in with more

> detailed advice.

>

> With Erfa I wouldn't take any nearer than 12 hours to when you decided

> to go to bed so that leaves plenty of time for Iron.

>

> With T3 (and I think Erfa) the advice is to take T3 1 hour BEFORE Iron

> or 4 hours AFTER iron. The iron is absorbed slowly and the T3 quickly

>

> Taking either of them sublingually avoid these issues as the T3/Erfa

> is directly absorbed instead of going via the stomach.

>

> Nick

>

December 2, 2009

Ok I'll just start taking 2 Iron pills instead of 1 every evening. Btw: What's

that talk about for every mg iron you add, you increase the chance of getting a

blood clot in the heart?

rT3: My FT3 from March is 5.7 and the rT3 is 0.55, this brings down to a ratio

of about 10! Why did I have that ratio back in March (prior to starting with HC)

while I was on 75/50 mcg T4 every other day only? I wonder why my rT3 was so

high back then.

>

> >My reshest Ferritin status is at 45. The range goes from 30 to 350 for adult

men, and I know I should have a Ferritin of 70 at least!

>

> Correct, that will be a cap on taking enough thyroid.

> >

> >I am now taking 25 mg of Amino Iron, Ferrochel standard. One pill every

evening around midnight.

>

> It will take more than that. Hopefully someone will chip in with more

> detailed advice.

>

> With Erfa I wouldn't take any nearer than 12 hours to when you decided

> to go to bed so that leaves plenty of time for Iron.

>

> With T3 (and I think Erfa) the advice is to take T3 1 hour BEFORE Iron

> or 4 hours AFTER iron. The iron is absorbed slowly and the T3 quickly

>

> Taking either of them sublingually avoid these issues as the T3/Erfa

> is directly absorbed instead of going via the stomach.

>

> Nick

>

December 2, 2009

I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6 pm.

I took my first dose at 1 pm. And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

December 2, 2009

I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6 pm.

I took my first dose at 1 pm. And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

December 2, 2009

>I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6 pm.

I took my first dose at 1 pm.

Go for it. Taking combo within 10 hours of bed time stopped me getting

to sleep

>And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

I wouldn't have taken that. Stop the T4 if you are going to increase

the Erfa, it will be OK today but don't take any more after today

>Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

When you take it depends what it is!

I can't take natural after 2pm for an 11pm bed time. I can take T3

through the day and at bed time.

T4 you can take pretty well any time.

Nick

December 2, 2009

>I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6 pm.

I took my first dose at 1 pm.

Go for it. Taking combo within 10 hours of bed time stopped me getting

to sleep

>And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

I wouldn't have taken that. Stop the T4 if you are going to increase

the Erfa, it will be OK today but don't take any more after today

>Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

When you take it depends what it is!

I can't take natural after 2pm for an 11pm bed time. I can take T3

through the day and at bed time.

T4 you can take pretty well any time.

Nick

December 2, 2009

I hope it's not too late - I am very afraid if fluid retention and CHF. My belly

has grown very large over the past 1 1/2 years since T3 was removed from me.

Maybe even HC has made my gain weight.

Oh well. I took 1 grain total today + those 50 mcg Synthetic T4. Like my

specialist told me to do. Friday is the day when I get my new rT3 result in.

We'll see what that looks like.

What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

>

> >I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6

pm. I took my first dose at 1 pm.

>

> Go for it. Taking combo within 10 hours of bed time stopped me getting

> to sleep

>

> >And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

>

> I wouldn't have taken that. Stop the T4 if you are going to increase

> the Erfa, it will be OK today but don't take any more after today

>

> >Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

>

> When you take it depends what it is!

>

> I can't take natural after 2pm for an 11pm bed time. I can take T3

> through the day and at bed time.

>

> T4 you can take pretty well any time.

>

> Nick

>

December 2, 2009

I hope it's not too late - I am very afraid if fluid retention and CHF. My belly

has grown very large over the past 1 1/2 years since T3 was removed from me.

Maybe even HC has made my gain weight.

Oh well. I took 1 grain total today + those 50 mcg Synthetic T4. Like my

specialist told me to do. Friday is the day when I get my new rT3 result in.

We'll see what that looks like.

What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

>

> >I was thinking about taking my secone 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid now at about 6

pm. I took my first dose at 1 pm.

>

> Go for it. Taking combo within 10 hours of bed time stopped me getting

> to sleep

>

> >And I took my 50 mcg's of Synthetic T4 at 3 pm.

>

> I wouldn't have taken that. Stop the T4 if you are going to increase

> the Erfa, it will be OK today but don't take any more after today

>

> >Does it really matter when you take what? For years, I always took my T4/T3

combo when I woke up, whenever that was, and the secon dose 12+ hours later,

before I went to bed, whenever that was. Maybe I should wait til like 8 pm with

my second dose of 1/2 grain ERFA Thyroid and take my Iron at midnight before

bedtime?

>

> When you take it depends what it is!

>

> I can't take natural after 2pm for an 11pm bed time. I can take T3

> through the day and at bed time.

>

> T4 you can take pretty well any time.

>

> Nick

>

December 2, 2009

>What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

My gut feeling is that will work to start with, then the RT3 will

build up again and it will stop working

Nick

December 2, 2009

>What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

My gut feeling is that will work to start with, then the RT3 will

build up again and it will stop working

Nick

December 2, 2009

>What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

My gut feeling is that will work to start with, then the RT3 will

build up again and it will stop working

Nick

December 2, 2009

Yeah I have this feeling to... We'll see.. I am curious about the rT3 result

though. I will keep doing rT3 tests, once every week, in the coming time!

One question about temperatures though: Throughout the day, they've always been

" perfect " , at 98.5/98.6 (36.9/37.0 C) but somehow now, after increasing my dose

of dessicated with 1/2 grain, my temp is 99.0 - Is this normal when you start

taking dessicated? Maybe 99.0 is my REAL optimal temperature?

>

> >What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

>

> My gut feeling is that will work to start with, then the RT3 will

> build up again and it will stop working

>

> Nick

>

December 2, 2009

Yeah I have this feeling to... We'll see.. I am curious about the rT3 result

though. I will keep doing rT3 tests, once every week, in the coming time!

One question about temperatures though: Throughout the day, they've always been

" perfect " , at 98.5/98.6 (36.9/37.0 C) but somehow now, after increasing my dose

of dessicated with 1/2 grain, my temp is 99.0 - Is this normal when you start

taking dessicated? Maybe 99.0 is my REAL optimal temperature?

>

> >What if rT3 doesn't mean anything in my body - And all I needed was HC and a

proper dose of dessicated thyroid? Who knows, right?

>

> My gut feeling is that will work to start with, then the RT3 will

> build up again and it will stop working

>

> Nick

>

December 3, 2009

This morning I woke up, naturally, earlier than normal. At 10:30. I did fall

asleep earlier than normal too, at about 3 am. I did wake up several times

around 7 am. I have no idea why this happens. Did I take my ERF Thyroid too late

in the day? The second dose was taken at 6:30 pm.

As for last night after increasing my ERFA Thyroid dose with 1/2 grain, I might

have had a bit more energy. I took a short 10 minute walk (which I normally

don't do) outside in -17.6 (-8 C), and tried to go to bed at 11 am, which was a

joke. 12:30 am, I had to get up because I just wasn't sleepy, and get something

to eat. Cause I can't fall asleep if I'm hungry. Went back to bed at 2:30 am,

and fell asleep at around 3 am or something like that.

I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

December 3, 2009

This morning I woke up, naturally, earlier than normal. At 10:30. I did fall

asleep earlier than normal too, at about 3 am. I did wake up several times

around 7 am. I have no idea why this happens. Did I take my ERF Thyroid too late

in the day? The second dose was taken at 6:30 pm.

As for last night after increasing my ERFA Thyroid dose with 1/2 grain, I might

have had a bit more energy. I took a short 10 minute walk (which I normally

don't do) outside in -17.6 (-8 C), and tried to go to bed at 11 am, which was a

joke. 12:30 am, I had to get up because I just wasn't sleepy, and get something

to eat. Cause I can't fall asleep if I'm hungry. Went back to bed at 2:30 am,

and fell asleep at around 3 am or something like that.

I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

December 3, 2009

This morning I woke up, naturally, earlier than normal. At 10:30. I did fall

asleep earlier than normal too, at about 3 am. I did wake up several times

around 7 am. I have no idea why this happens. Did I take my ERF Thyroid too late

in the day? The second dose was taken at 6:30 pm.

As for last night after increasing my ERFA Thyroid dose with 1/2 grain, I might

have had a bit more energy. I took a short 10 minute walk (which I normally

don't do) outside in -17.6 (-8 C), and tried to go to bed at 11 am, which was a

joke. 12:30 am, I had to get up because I just wasn't sleepy, and get something

to eat. Cause I can't fall asleep if I'm hungry. Went back to bed at 2:30 am,

and fell asleep at around 3 am or something like that.

I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

December 3, 2009

>

>I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

Give it a try, waking earlier is good. Good luck.

Nick

December 3, 2009

>

>I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

Give it a try, waking earlier is good. Good luck.

Nick

December 3, 2009

Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am 31.

But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part in

my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and as

well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I remove

them! To get stronger, so to say.

>

> >

> >I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

>

> Give it a try, waking earlier is good. Good luck.

>

> Nick

>

December 3, 2009

Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am 31.

But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part in

my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and as

well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I remove

them! To get stronger, so to say.

>

> >

> >I have no idea where this is going, but I'll try it for a few more days.

>

> Give it a try, waking earlier is good. Good luck.

>

> Nick

>

December 3, 2009

>Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am 31.

But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

>Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

Hopefully you will get your body awake enough to have a life soon

>

>PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part in

my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and as

well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I remove

them! To get stronger, so to say.

No experience of their effect.

I know that tonsil removal has been blamed for triggering thyroid

issues.

I also know that when people get thyroid and adrenal support right

that they become less susceptible to infections etc so they may heal

as a result of sorting the rest of it.

I would leave out your synthetic T4 today, I am wondering if you are

having some reaction to it (or it's fillers) .

Nick

December 3, 2009

>Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am 31.

But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

>Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

Hopefully you will get your body awake enough to have a life soon

>

>PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part in

my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and as

well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I remove

them! To get stronger, so to say.

No experience of their effect.

I know that tonsil removal has been blamed for triggering thyroid

issues.

I also know that when people get thyroid and adrenal support right

that they become less susceptible to infections etc so they may heal

as a result of sorting the rest of it.

I would leave out your synthetic T4 today, I am wondering if you are

having some reaction to it (or it's fillers) .

Nick

December 3, 2009

>Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am 31.

But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

>Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

Hopefully you will get your body awake enough to have a life soon

>

>PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part in

my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and as

well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I remove

them! To get stronger, so to say.

No experience of their effect.

I know that tonsil removal has been blamed for triggering thyroid

issues.

I also know that when people get thyroid and adrenal support right

that they become less susceptible to infections etc so they may heal

as a result of sorting the rest of it.

I would leave out your synthetic T4 today, I am wondering if you are

having some reaction to it (or it's fillers) .

Nick

December 3, 2009

Thanks, I hope so too... It's what I dream of every single day!

I must have had a throat infection abuot 8 years ago, that's when my tonsils got

these cavities in them, and I started removing those white lumps from them (the

bad smelling ones) - A specialist told me I need to " remove " (fix with lazer) my

tonsils. Cause they looks very bad, he says. He also said that 90% of all people

who remove their bad tonsils feel 100% healthy again after this. Some even have

Hypo symptoms which go away after they fix their tonsils. My tonsils can't heal,

they are messed up for life. I better fix them ASAP. Oh yeah, I had an infection

in my tonsils last year, got the flu, and almost died from this! I had the

highest possible fever before you die. It was SOOO scary! I was sure this is it.

This happened right after an idiot doctor removed my T3-med.

I have taken Synthetic T4 every single day sinec May 1997. But I've never been

on such a low dose as I am today: 50 mcg. It's a new record since 1997! Let's

hope this works...!!!

Got my FT3 today! No rT3. It's due for release tomorrow. Anyway, my FT3 was 6.4,

which is an increase from November 9th when I did my last bloodwork; 5.9. So, if

rT3 has gone down, things are looking better. If rT3 has gone up, well, then it

doesn't matter if FT3 is going up as well. I look forward to do the ratio.

>

> >Yeah, we're not made to wake up after noon. It's time to grow up, huh. I am

31. But living a life with Hypothyroidism doesn't exactly promote growth in all

areas like it should be either, so..

> >Thanks buddy! Appreciate it!

>

> Hopefully you will get your body awake enough to have a life soon

> >

> >PS! What do you think about my bad tonsils? They can play an important part

in my overall health, don't you think? I need to get them removed - But I, and

as well as my specialist, feel that I should get better from Hypo before I

remove them! To get stronger, so to say.

>

> No experience of their effect.

>

> I know that tonsil removal has been blamed for triggering thyroid

> issues.

>

> I also know that when people get thyroid and adrenal support right

> that they become less susceptible to infections etc so they may heal

> as a result of sorting the rest of it.

>

> I would leave out your synthetic T4 today, I am wondering if you are

> having some reaction to it (or it's fillers) .

>

> Nick

>

December 3, 2009