Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 a- That could be right...at least with some vocabulary Marissa could begin to put signs with feelings, wants, and objects. It helped eliminate the constant pointing and also reduced " tantrums " drastically. I can't imagine what it would be like to have the cognitive ability to know you want something or want to say something and not have the words to do so. Our lives have drastically changed since we were truly able to begin communicating through language other than body language. Colin _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 a- That could be right...at least with some vocabulary Marissa could begin to put signs with feelings, wants, and objects. It helped eliminate the constant pointing and also reduced " tantrums " drastically. I can't imagine what it would be like to have the cognitive ability to know you want something or want to say something and not have the words to do so. Our lives have drastically changed since we were truly able to begin communicating through language other than body language. Colin _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 a- That could be right...at least with some vocabulary Marissa could begin to put signs with feelings, wants, and objects. It helped eliminate the constant pointing and also reduced " tantrums " drastically. I can't imagine what it would be like to have the cognitive ability to know you want something or want to say something and not have the words to do so. Our lives have drastically changed since we were truly able to begin communicating through language other than body language. Colin _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 <<I can't imagine what it would be like to have the cognitive ability to know you want something or want to say something and not have the words to do so. >> Actually, I'll bet most of us have been here...and just don't remember it. It's called " the toddler years " . :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. But yes, the frustration of any child at not being able to communicate can bring on profound behavioral issues. That's why I love sign so much because, in my work as an occupational therapist, I have seen so many doors opened by introducing this basic concept to children with other issues which impair their ability to communicate (i.e. Down Syndrome, CP, Autism, etc.) was misdiagnosed with Apraxia of speech for a year before his hearing loss was identified, and so we had already introduced sign. Our therapist was amazed that he was so " visual " and picked it up so quickly. (Gee, you'd think that might have been a clue...) Carol - mom to , 6.11 (and REALLY counting the days!), mod to profound, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 <<I can't imagine what it would be like to have the cognitive ability to know you want something or want to say something and not have the words to do so. >> Actually, I'll bet most of us have been here...and just don't remember it. It's called " the toddler years " . :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. But yes, the frustration of any child at not being able to communicate can bring on profound behavioral issues. That's why I love sign so much because, in my work as an occupational therapist, I have seen so many doors opened by introducing this basic concept to children with other issues which impair their ability to communicate (i.e. Down Syndrome, CP, Autism, etc.) was misdiagnosed with Apraxia of speech for a year before his hearing loss was identified, and so we had already introduced sign. Our therapist was amazed that he was so " visual " and picked it up so quickly. (Gee, you'd think that might have been a clue...) Carol - mom to , 6.11 (and REALLY counting the days!), mod to profound, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Hi a, I know I am late in responding to this, but was just going through me emails and saw this. My daughter le is 4 and we had a horrible time in the beginning keeping her aids in. Constantly falling out. There are different size ear hooks, and it wasn't until we tried everything, huggies, toupee tape, critter clips, different style earmolds everything, nothing worked, then one day about a year later, they tried different hearing aids hooks and that was it. I don't know, if that is your problem or not, but just thought I would let you know of our experience. le's aids were just in for repair recently and we received loaners from the Immediate Unit and the loaners would not stay in, they were different ear hooks, thank god we got her aids back fast. To me that was something that should of been looked at first, and it was the last thing the audies tried to keep them in her ears. To clean the wax out we soak them and then used the blower and let them dry over night. Hope this helps. Take Care, Colleen Mom to 9 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,) Mom to le 4 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc) Re: Help > I have another question. HA's are foreign to me also along with > CS/ASL.... So here goes my dumb question. Is there a way to keep > them connected to her? The one keeps falling out. She lost it in > the driveway when we went to hang the easter eggs on the tree.... > When we were walking back there it layed. Thank God nobody ran over > it... The other time she took them out and I was looking everywhere > and I asked her where they were at and she said the bathroom. I held > my breath because I figured she had either washed them or flushed > them.. She didn't! The other question is how do I clean the wax > build up in the mold? Anything else I need to know?? > Thanks so much > a > > > > > > a, > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language level, > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is not > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes are...or > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, i.e. > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the example > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it sounds > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', she > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss from > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% to > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, are > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as I'm > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still struggles.) If > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of defense. > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) but > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing and > then filling in what she misses. > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > don't have it already. > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Hi a, I know I am late in responding to this, but was just going through me emails and saw this. My daughter le is 4 and we had a horrible time in the beginning keeping her aids in. Constantly falling out. There are different size ear hooks, and it wasn't until we tried everything, huggies, toupee tape, critter clips, different style earmolds everything, nothing worked, then one day about a year later, they tried different hearing aids hooks and that was it. I don't know, if that is your problem or not, but just thought I would let you know of our experience. le's aids were just in for repair recently and we received loaners from the Immediate Unit and the loaners would not stay in, they were different ear hooks, thank god we got her aids back fast. To me that was something that should of been looked at first, and it was the last thing the audies tried to keep them in her ears. To clean the wax out we soak them and then used the blower and let them dry over night. Hope this helps. Take Care, Colleen Mom to 9 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,) Mom to le 4 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc) Re: Help > I have another question. HA's are foreign to me also along with > CS/ASL.... So here goes my dumb question. Is there a way to keep > them connected to her? The one keeps falling out. She lost it in > the driveway when we went to hang the easter eggs on the tree.... > When we were walking back there it layed. Thank God nobody ran over > it... The other time she took them out and I was looking everywhere > and I asked her where they were at and she said the bathroom. I held > my breath because I figured she had either washed them or flushed > them.. She didn't! The other question is how do I clean the wax > build up in the mold? Anything else I need to know?? > Thanks so much > a > > > > > > a, > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language level, > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is not > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes are...or > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, i.e. > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the example > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it sounds > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', she > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss from > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% to > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, are > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as I'm > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still struggles.) If > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of defense. > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) but > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing and > then filling in what she misses. > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > don't have it already. > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Thanks Colleen! Where do you get the loaners? We just sent one of Brit's HA's off because it had so much static in it. We will have to wait til that one gets back before sending the other one off. I'm doing it this way so she will at least have one aid verses none. Thanks a > > > a, > > > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language level, > > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is not > > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes are...or > > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, i.e. > > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the example > > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it sounds > > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', she > > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss from > > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% to > > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, are > > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as I'm > > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still struggles.) If > > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of defense. > > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) but > > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing and > > then filling in what she misses. > > > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > > don't have it already. > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Thanks Kellie, I think the tubing has played a role in some of our problems also. a > > Hi a, > > I know I am late in responding to this, but was just going through > me emails > > and saw this. My daughter le is 4 and we had a horrible > time in the > > beginning keeping her aids in. Constantly falling out. There are > different > > size ear hooks, and it wasn't until we tried everything, huggies, > toupee > > tape, critter clips, different style earmolds everything, nothing > worked, > > then one day about a year later, they tried different hearing aids > hooks and > > that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Thanks Kellie, I think the tubing has played a role in some of our problems also. a > > Hi a, > > I know I am late in responding to this, but was just going through > me emails > > and saw this. My daughter le is 4 and we had a horrible > time in the > > beginning keeping her aids in. Constantly falling out. There are > different > > size ear hooks, and it wasn't until we tried everything, huggies, > toupee > > tape, critter clips, different style earmolds everything, nothing > worked, > > then one day about a year later, they tried different hearing aids > hooks and > > that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Thanks Kellie, I think the tubing has played a role in some of our problems also. a > > Hi a, > > I know I am late in responding to this, but was just going through > me emails > > and saw this. My daughter le is 4 and we had a horrible > time in the > > beginning keeping her aids in. Constantly falling out. There are > different > > size ear hooks, and it wasn't until we tried everything, huggies, > toupee > > tape, critter clips, different style earmolds everything, nothing > worked, > > then one day about a year later, they tried different hearing aids > hooks and > > that was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Hi! a, le is in a Preschool Hearing Impaired Class 4 days a week. And something I had added to her IEP, was that if her equipment was down, we would need loaner equipment until it's back up. This has saved me many times. They are not the aids that she wears but they are compatible with her loss. We just got her aids back before her Spring Break and I returned the loaners to the Intermediate Unit, and they handed them back to me, and told me to hold on to them until her FM was back too. Just in case the aids have to be sent out again, while she is on a two week spring break. They said they would not want her to go without her aids, since without them she has a very hard time hearing. So, we are lucky that we have an awesome hearing impaired program that makes sure they all have there equipment up and working as much as possible. I don't know how many times they lent me FM wire-mic until we were able to get another one. We are very fortunate with this situation, they really do go the extra mile, I wasn't even thinking when I gave them back, that the problem was associated with the FM , and if the aid has to be sent out again she would have to do without. So I have a set of aids her until she goes back to school just in case, because her teacher suggested I hold on to them. Take CareColleen Mom to 9 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,) Mom to le 4 1/2 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc) Re: Help > > Thanks Colleen! Where do you get the loaners? We just sent one of > Brit's HA's off because it had so much static in it. We will have to > wait til that one gets back before sending the other one off. I'm > doing it this way so she will at least have one aid verses none. > > Thanks > a > > > > > > > a, > > > > > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language > level, > > > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is > not > > > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > > > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > > > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > > > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > > > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes > are...or > > > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > > > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, > i.e. > > > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > > > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > > > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the > example > > > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it > sounds > > > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > > > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > > > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > > > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > > > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > > > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', > she > > > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss > from > > > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > > > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > > > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% > to > > > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > > > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, > are > > > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > > > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as > I'm > > > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still > struggles.) If > > > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of > defense. > > > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) > but > > > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing > and > > > then filling in what she misses. > > > > > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > > > don't have it already. > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Hi! a, le is in a Preschool Hearing Impaired Class 4 days a week. And something I had added to her IEP, was that if her equipment was down, we would need loaner equipment until it's back up. This has saved me many times. They are not the aids that she wears but they are compatible with her loss. We just got her aids back before her Spring Break and I returned the loaners to the Intermediate Unit, and they handed them back to me, and told me to hold on to them until her FM was back too. Just in case the aids have to be sent out again, while she is on a two week spring break. They said they would not want her to go without her aids, since without them she has a very hard time hearing. So, we are lucky that we have an awesome hearing impaired program that makes sure they all have there equipment up and working as much as possible. I don't know how many times they lent me FM wire-mic until we were able to get another one. We are very fortunate with this situation, they really do go the extra mile, I wasn't even thinking when I gave them back, that the problem was associated with the FM , and if the aid has to be sent out again she would have to do without. So I have a set of aids her until she goes back to school just in case, because her teacher suggested I hold on to them. Take CareColleen Mom to 9 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,) Mom to le 4 1/2 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc) Re: Help > > Thanks Colleen! Where do you get the loaners? We just sent one of > Brit's HA's off because it had so much static in it. We will have to > wait til that one gets back before sending the other one off. I'm > doing it this way so she will at least have one aid verses none. > > Thanks > a > > > > > > > a, > > > > > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language > level, > > > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is > not > > > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > > > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > > > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > > > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > > > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes > are...or > > > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > > > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, > i.e. > > > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > > > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > > > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the > example > > > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it > sounds > > > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > > > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > > > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > > > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > > > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > > > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', > she > > > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss > from > > > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > > > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > > > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% > to > > > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > > > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, > are > > > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > > > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as > I'm > > > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still > struggles.) If > > > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of > defense. > > > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) > but > > > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing > and > > > then filling in what she misses. > > > > > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > > > don't have it already. > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Hi! a, le is in a Preschool Hearing Impaired Class 4 days a week. And something I had added to her IEP, was that if her equipment was down, we would need loaner equipment until it's back up. This has saved me many times. They are not the aids that she wears but they are compatible with her loss. We just got her aids back before her Spring Break and I returned the loaners to the Intermediate Unit, and they handed them back to me, and told me to hold on to them until her FM was back too. Just in case the aids have to be sent out again, while she is on a two week spring break. They said they would not want her to go without her aids, since without them she has a very hard time hearing. So, we are lucky that we have an awesome hearing impaired program that makes sure they all have there equipment up and working as much as possible. I don't know how many times they lent me FM wire-mic until we were able to get another one. We are very fortunate with this situation, they really do go the extra mile, I wasn't even thinking when I gave them back, that the problem was associated with the FM , and if the aid has to be sent out again she would have to do without. So I have a set of aids her until she goes back to school just in case, because her teacher suggested I hold on to them. Take CareColleen Mom to 9 year old (hearing,asthma, and allergies,) Mom to le 4 1/2 year old, (moderately-severe hearing loss, etc) Re: Help > > Thanks Colleen! Where do you get the loaners? We just sent one of > Brit's HA's off because it had so much static in it. We will have to > wait til that one gets back before sending the other one off. I'm > doing it this way so she will at least have one aid verses none. > > Thanks > a > > > > > > > a, > > > > > > > > After reading your description of Britney's current language > level, > > > I have to admit that I don't see a huge delay for a child who is > not > > > yet 4. My suggestion would be to find a speech path with lots of > > > experience with kids with hearing impairment and have a complete > > > language assessment done. (I would go with private, if you can > > > afford it, unless your school district is fortunate enough to have > > > such a person on staff.) This will show you where the holes > are...or > > > where they aren't...and then you know what to tackle. In the > > > meantime, I would model the way you would like Britney to speak, > i.e. > > > you and the family use complete sentences and ask that teachers do > > > the same. (This is the philosophy in many programs, including the > > > total communication one which attends.) Of course, the > example > > > you use ( " This is for Shelby " ) is a complete sentence but it > sounds > > > as if you felt she should give more information. > > > > > > > > One other thing I would do is have Britney wear her hearing aids > > > all the time, during the day. (Is there a reason she hardly ever > > > wears them, as you stated?) The amount of language she could be > > > missing, even at the mild end of the loss, could certainly account > > > for any delays you may see. In the excellent book by Carol > > > Flexor, 'Facilitating Hearing and Listening in Young Children', > she > > > points out that a child with a mild hearing impairment " can miss > from > > > 25% to 40% of the speech signal " and " up to 50% of what is said in > > > the classroom " . She also states that with a moderate loss, while > > > face to face conversations may be understandable in context, 50% > to > > > 75% of any other speech signal may be missed. This is hugely > > > significant! Some kids like my son and probably your daughter, > are > > > very good at " fooling " you about what they hear...and it comes out > > > later as language delays. (Actually, HI adults do this too, as > I'm > > > informed by a very good friend who has a CI but still > struggles.) If > > > the aids do give benefit, I'd make them your first line of > defense. > > > Adding a visual system is great (and I wish everyone knew sign!) > but > > > ideally it would reinforce what Britney is already almost hearing > and > > > then filling in what she misses. > > > > > > > > Also, the book I mentioned above is a terrific resource, if you > > > don't have it already. > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Sherrice: My advice would be to try something different. Eat more activity points for 2 weeks and see if that works. If that doesn't, then eat less than your 26 points and see if that works. Some other things to think about: -- you might try a different type of exercise, sometimes our bodies become efficient at exercise we do over and over -- I've read about people who added mild weight training and that knocked them off their plateau - you can get a video and some hand weights at the store to do it, no need to join a gym -- are you accurate on portion sizes? perhaps try measuring everything to make sure Most of all, don't give up! > Hi, I have been on the weight watchers program since April 2002 and > have lost 130 lbs. I have a question for anyone that maybe able to > help. My weight loss has been on a plateau for 5 months and now is > starting to move a little but only about an average of .5 per week > in the last 5 weeks. I use all my points per day (26 points) and I > earn about 5-6 exercise points per day but don't use them. Should I > be using them to get my maximum weight loss or is there something > else I should be doing to get my weight loss moving a little > quicker. I am getting very frustrated and don't want to fall off > the wagon. I have been overweight since I was 10 and don't want to > go back to 350 lbs again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 Sherrice: My advice would be to try something different. Eat more activity points for 2 weeks and see if that works. If that doesn't, then eat less than your 26 points and see if that works. Some other things to think about: -- you might try a different type of exercise, sometimes our bodies become efficient at exercise we do over and over -- I've read about people who added mild weight training and that knocked them off their plateau - you can get a video and some hand weights at the store to do it, no need to join a gym -- are you accurate on portion sizes? perhaps try measuring everything to make sure Most of all, don't give up! > Hi, I have been on the weight watchers program since April 2002 and > have lost 130 lbs. I have a question for anyone that maybe able to > help. My weight loss has been on a plateau for 5 months and now is > starting to move a little but only about an average of .5 per week > in the last 5 weeks. I use all my points per day (26 points) and I > earn about 5-6 exercise points per day but don't use them. Should I > be using them to get my maximum weight loss or is there something > else I should be doing to get my weight loss moving a little > quicker. I am getting very frustrated and don't want to fall off > the wagon. I have been overweight since I was 10 and don't want to > go back to 350 lbs again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 HI, Have you tried to look back at your journaling during the weeks when you have had good loses, and eat those same things? I know that WW in the Breaking Through booklet has some great ideas and also talks about making sure that the food you eat is weighed/measured properly since it's easy to eyeball portions after being on the program and it's just as easy to accidently eyeball them a bit larger than they should be. Also have you tried a different type of excersise? Double check your water intake, re-read your getting started booklets and the ones that follow to sort of get a renewed sense of what WW asks of us, as it's easy to get your own thing going and working for you, but you may need to change things a bit since you have lost so much weight. Good luck to you!! Moe 234/212/199 Help > Hi, I have been on the weight watchers program since April 2002 and > have lost 130 lbs. I have a question for anyone that maybe able to > help. My weight loss has been on a plateau for 5 months and now is > starting to move a little but only about an average of .5 per week > in the last 5 weeks. I use all my points per day (26 points) and I > earn about 5-6 exercise points per day but don't use them. Should I > be using them to get my maximum weight loss or is there something > else I should be doing to get my weight loss moving a little > quicker. I am getting very frustrated and don't want to fall off > the wagon. I have been overweight since I was 10 and don't want to > go back to 350 lbs again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 HI, Have you tried to look back at your journaling during the weeks when you have had good loses, and eat those same things? I know that WW in the Breaking Through booklet has some great ideas and also talks about making sure that the food you eat is weighed/measured properly since it's easy to eyeball portions after being on the program and it's just as easy to accidently eyeball them a bit larger than they should be. Also have you tried a different type of excersise? Double check your water intake, re-read your getting started booklets and the ones that follow to sort of get a renewed sense of what WW asks of us, as it's easy to get your own thing going and working for you, but you may need to change things a bit since you have lost so much weight. Good luck to you!! Moe 234/212/199 Help > Hi, I have been on the weight watchers program since April 2002 and > have lost 130 lbs. I have a question for anyone that maybe able to > help. My weight loss has been on a plateau for 5 months and now is > starting to move a little but only about an average of .5 per week > in the last 5 weeks. I use all my points per day (26 points) and I > earn about 5-6 exercise points per day but don't use them. Should I > be using them to get my maximum weight loss or is there something > else I should be doing to get my weight loss moving a little > quicker. I am getting very frustrated and don't want to fall off > the wagon. I have been overweight since I was 10 and don't want to > go back to 350 lbs again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2003 Report Share Posted August 28, 2003 HI, Have you tried to look back at your journaling during the weeks when you have had good loses, and eat those same things? I know that WW in the Breaking Through booklet has some great ideas and also talks about making sure that the food you eat is weighed/measured properly since it's easy to eyeball portions after being on the program and it's just as easy to accidently eyeball them a bit larger than they should be. Also have you tried a different type of excersise? Double check your water intake, re-read your getting started booklets and the ones that follow to sort of get a renewed sense of what WW asks of us, as it's easy to get your own thing going and working for you, but you may need to change things a bit since you have lost so much weight. Good luck to you!! Moe 234/212/199 Help > Hi, I have been on the weight watchers program since April 2002 and > have lost 130 lbs. I have a question for anyone that maybe able to > help. My weight loss has been on a plateau for 5 months and now is > starting to move a little but only about an average of .5 per week > in the last 5 weeks. I use all my points per day (26 points) and I > earn about 5-6 exercise points per day but don't use them. Should I > be using them to get my maximum weight loss or is there something > else I should be doing to get my weight loss moving a little > quicker. I am getting very frustrated and don't want to fall off > the wagon. I have been overweight since I was 10 and don't want to > go back to 350 lbs again. Any help or suggestions would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sherrie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I am so very fustrated, and spending too much time worring about what to do. My naturopath Dr has wanted acth test for yrs..in order to know how bad adrenals are, and in order to okay more isocrt. My free medicaid Dr, which I will only have very briefly, will order the test. Both Drs say I have to be off Isocort, progesterone, testo, alcohol for 2 or better 3 days before. I CANNOT. I have tried..and being off progesterone 2 days..I am bleeding clots, swollen, stabbing pain where my endometriosis is, feel like crying. and I cut down from 9 isocort to 6 the first day, then to 4 the second day..but then drank a half bottle of wine. I am tired and worst of all my all over fungal rash...which I have trying to conquer, seems to be getting worse. I am desperate feeling, in pain and in tears...and I dont know how I can do this. I dont even know if its WORTH it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If you are going ot lower ISocort oyu need ot do it SLOWLY n o more than 5mg weekly so about 3 pelklets a week. The best fix for endometriosis is THYROID .. I am not sure if NAYONE in the medicla oprofession has pout this together or not, but I sure did. Right after my hyst for this issue I did alot of asking around internet groups. EVRY woman that had endometriossi I talked ot had hypothyroidism. EVERY one of them. Thsi si not a coincidence. The women I talked ot that actually healed form ti got thyroid OPTIMAL quickly. But to do that oyu MUST have welkl supported adrneals With what you are describing I would not mess wiht getting tested but self treat. With endometriosis ther eis NO time to be fooling around wiht this and waiting for doctors to decide you need it. Sorry I seldom blatantly recommend self teatment but in your case ABSOLUTELY you may need ot. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 If you are going ot lower ISocort oyu need ot do it SLOWLY n o more than 5mg weekly so about 3 pelklets a week. The best fix for endometriosis is THYROID .. I am not sure if NAYONE in the medicla oprofession has pout this together or not, but I sure did. Right after my hyst for this issue I did alot of asking around internet groups. EVRY woman that had endometriossi I talked ot had hypothyroidism. EVERY one of them. Thsi si not a coincidence. The women I talked ot that actually healed form ti got thyroid OPTIMAL quickly. But to do that oyu MUST have welkl supported adrneals With what you are describing I would not mess wiht getting tested but self treat. With endometriosis ther eis NO time to be fooling around wiht this and waiting for doctors to decide you need it. Sorry I seldom blatantly recommend self teatment but in your case ABSOLUTELY you may need ot. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 well my temperature was unstable even before... I dont want to stress my adrenals more, as I still have to take my thyroid.. I think Ive just made a decision to dump the idea of taking the acth test..I just am not willing to undo all I have worked for.If you were me what would you do?>and I cut down from 9 isocort to 6 the first day, then to 4 the second day..but then drank a half bottle of wine. I am tired and worst of all my all over fungal rash...which I have trying to conquer, seems to be getting worse.>I am desperate feeling, in pain and in tears...and I dont know how I can do this. I dont even know if its WORTH it.>Hang in there.Cutting down at that speed will make you crash worse. If you are goingto go right down you would have to do it more slowly.Temperature is the big one though, if that's bouncing you don't haveenough adrenal function.http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graphgives the instructions for temperature measurement.If those day to day averages are not stable more isocort (or HC) isneeded.There seems to be a lack of knowledge in them trying to get you tostop suddenly for the tests, apart from anything else it wouldprobably skew the ACTH test,Good luckNick-- for more information go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 well my temperature was unstable even before... I dont want to stress my adrenals more, as I still have to take my thyroid.. I think Ive just made a decision to dump the idea of taking the acth test..I just am not willing to undo all I have worked for.If you were me what would you do?>and I cut down from 9 isocort to 6 the first day, then to 4 the second day..but then drank a half bottle of wine. I am tired and worst of all my all over fungal rash...which I have trying to conquer, seems to be getting worse.>I am desperate feeling, in pain and in tears...and I dont know how I can do this. I dont even know if its WORTH it.>Hang in there.Cutting down at that speed will make you crash worse. If you are goingto go right down you would have to do it more slowly.Temperature is the big one though, if that's bouncing you don't haveenough adrenal function.http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graphgives the instructions for temperature measurement.If those day to day averages are not stable more isocort (or HC) isneeded.There seems to be a lack of knowledge in them trying to get you tostop suddenly for the tests, apart from anything else it wouldprobably skew the ACTH test,Good luckNick-- for more information go to www.thyroid-rt3.com------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Bless your heart!! This is how I feel too, but yoo can see even now, I so desperatly want Drs to believe Im trying to get better, so theyll help me. But my common sense tells me I am hurting myself doing this. Subject: Re: helpTo: RT3_T3 Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 4:03 AM If you are going ot lower ISocort oyu need ot do it SLOWLY n o more than 5mg weekly so about 3 pelklets a week. The best fix for endometriosis is THYROID .. I am not sure if NAYONE in the medicla oprofession has pout this together or not, but I sure did. Right after my hyst for this issue I did alot of asking around internet groups. EVRY woman that had endometriossi I talked ot had hypothyroidism. EVERY one of them. Thsi si not a coincidence. The women I talked ot that actually healed form ti got thyroid OPTIMAL quickly. But to do that oyu MUST have welkl supported adrneals With what you are describing I would not mess wiht getting tested but self treat. With endometriosis ther eis NO time to be fooling around wiht this and waiting for doctors to decide you need it. Sorry I seldom blatantly recommend self teatment but in your case ABSOLUTELY you may need ot.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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