Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 If it is not Asherman's, it is closely related. I would think that it needs to be treated the same way in any case. if this women would like to join, please pass the meesage along for her to sign up! I think an A list doctor would be a good one to get advise from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 If it is not Asherman's, it is closely related. I would think that it needs to be treated the same way in any case. if this women would like to join, please pass the meesage along for her to sign up! I think an A list doctor would be a good one to get advise from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 If it is not Asherman's, it is closely related. I would think that it needs to be treated the same way in any case. if this women would like to join, please pass the meesage along for her to sign up! I think an A list doctor would be a good one to get advise from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Lesia, I think the best way for her to find out the answer is to ask her to join our group and to try to research the answers herself. It is very difficult to know just by the little information she has given if she has got ashremans. You might like to ask her first how her periods are. If they have stopped or have decreased, then this might be a sign. If she is interested in joining, then get her to go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/ and to request to join from there. Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Lesia, I think the best way for her to find out the answer is to ask her to join our group and to try to research the answers herself. It is very difficult to know just by the little information she has given if she has got ashremans. You might like to ask her first how her periods are. If they have stopped or have decreased, then this might be a sign. If she is interested in joining, then get her to go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/ and to request to join from there. Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Lesia, I think the best way for her to find out the answer is to ask her to join our group and to try to research the answers herself. It is very difficult to know just by the little information she has given if she has got ashremans. You might like to ask her first how her periods are. If they have stopped or have decreased, then this might be a sign. If she is interested in joining, then get her to go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ashermans/ and to request to join from there. Poly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nope, not Asherman's syndrome...this is intra-abdominal adhesions and/or endometriosis which could be CAUSED by Asherman's but is not Asherman's itself.... She will need surgery to separate these organs....and will need to have her uterine interior checked as well I would suspect to rule out Asherman's as a cause of endometriosis... Poor thing! That must HURT! Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nope, not Asherman's syndrome...this is intra-abdominal adhesions and/or endometriosis which could be CAUSED by Asherman's but is not Asherman's itself.... She will need surgery to separate these organs....and will need to have her uterine interior checked as well I would suspect to rule out Asherman's as a cause of endometriosis... Poor thing! That must HURT! Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2002 Report Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nope, not Asherman's syndrome...this is intra-abdominal adhesions and/or endometriosis which could be CAUSED by Asherman's but is not Asherman's itself.... She will need surgery to separate these organs....and will need to have her uterine interior checked as well I would suspect to rule out Asherman's as a cause of endometriosis... Poor thing! That must HURT! Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How dumb is she? help I know everyone's' very busy, but I've got a bit of a dilemma & could use some suggestions. a was recently evaluated by the school physiologist to see if she would qualify for gifted, it was my request & the results do confirm that she is eligible for the schools gifted program. A couple of concerns: #1 The schools gifted program doesn't start until 3rd grade, she's in 1st. #2 The hearing impaired teacher is now wanting to end her services (1-30 min. visit per week) Any suggestions? I've already told the hearing impaired teacher that I will not concede. Her reply was she's " normal " you should be glad. uuurrr...I was afraid of this. a is a deaf child who uses a cochlear implant. " normal? " I don't think so... Smart, yah! So now that she's smart...she's no longer deaf? I find educators very confusing... Angie King All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How dumb is she? help I know everyone's' very busy, but I've got a bit of a dilemma & could use some suggestions. a was recently evaluated by the school physiologist to see if she would qualify for gifted, it was my request & the results do confirm that she is eligible for the schools gifted program. A couple of concerns: #1 The schools gifted program doesn't start until 3rd grade, she's in 1st. #2 The hearing impaired teacher is now wanting to end her services (1-30 min. visit per week) Any suggestions? I've already told the hearing impaired teacher that I will not concede. Her reply was she's " normal " you should be glad. uuurrr...I was afraid of this. a is a deaf child who uses a cochlear implant. " normal? " I don't think so... Smart, yah! So now that she's smart...she's no longer deaf? I find educators very confusing... Angie King All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How dumb is she? help I know everyone's' very busy, but I've got a bit of a dilemma & could use some suggestions. a was recently evaluated by the school physiologist to see if she would qualify for gifted, it was my request & the results do confirm that she is eligible for the schools gifted program. A couple of concerns: #1 The schools gifted program doesn't start until 3rd grade, she's in 1st. #2 The hearing impaired teacher is now wanting to end her services (1-30 min. visit per week) Any suggestions? I've already told the hearing impaired teacher that I will not concede. Her reply was she's " normal " you should be glad. uuurrr...I was afraid of this. a is a deaf child who uses a cochlear implant. " normal? " I don't think so... Smart, yah! So now that she's smart...she's no longer deaf? I find educators very confusing... Angie King All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to copyright restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 My sentiments exactly! >What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The >gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD >she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a >lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the >board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How >dumb is she? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 My sentiments exactly! >What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The >gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD >she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a >lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the >board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How >dumb is she? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 My sentiments exactly! >What are they kidding. No matter how smart she is she is still deaf. The >gifted program has nothing to do with hearing impaired services. As a TOD >she should realize this. How smart is she going to be if she can't follow a >lesson. Tell her Albert Einstein failed math because he could't see the >board. She will always be deaf and always require special services. How >dumb is she? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program for her. I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she was older and speech was her primary language. Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they done understand makes them stand out. We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program for her. I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she was older and speech was her primary language. Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they done understand makes them stand out. We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program for her. I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she was older and speech was her primary language. Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they done understand makes them stand out. We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Thank you so much for the encouragement and advice. She is in a sp. edu. program and has a personal & class FM system. She receives ST 90 minutes a week fromt he school ST and her sp. ed teacher has worked with some HI kids and knows some CS. She has been in this program since August last year. She does very well with solid information. But has trouble coming up with her own ideas. However this evening she told me she wanted to plant a garden. To expand her thoughts I asked what are you gonna plant and she said " chocolate cookies and flowers " . She speaks in 9/10+ word sentences and most of it is intelligible but when comparing her to a hearing 4 yo she lags behind. She to is shy until she gets to know you then she will not be quiet. If you tell her to be quiet she will say " I don't wanna be quiet, I just wanna talk " . I think a private speech therapist maybe the answer. The ST she has is wonderful but perhaps someone different can shed some light. I know every person has a different approach to things and perhaps that is what she needs. A different approach! I just don't want to get down the road and think I wish I had ----. Another thing that could be her problem is in the sp. ed class are other children (only 1 HI who goes to a pvt. pres and here one day/week)with speech delays and they don't stimulate her thinking as a hearing 4 yo would. Thanks again. > Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. > She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she > needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. > For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with > the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, > but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. > If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, > speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some > background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program > for her. > I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did > that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, > wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though > she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she > was older and speech was her primary language. > Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does > their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she > will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. > My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and > didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she > wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they > want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they > done understand makes them stand out. > We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something > that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. > I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and > don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents > of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you > live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just > make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on > her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so > on... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Thank you so much for the encouragement and advice. She is in a sp. edu. program and has a personal & class FM system. She receives ST 90 minutes a week fromt he school ST and her sp. ed teacher has worked with some HI kids and knows some CS. She has been in this program since August last year. She does very well with solid information. But has trouble coming up with her own ideas. However this evening she told me she wanted to plant a garden. To expand her thoughts I asked what are you gonna plant and she said " chocolate cookies and flowers " . She speaks in 9/10+ word sentences and most of it is intelligible but when comparing her to a hearing 4 yo she lags behind. She to is shy until she gets to know you then she will not be quiet. If you tell her to be quiet she will say " I don't wanna be quiet, I just wanna talk " . I think a private speech therapist maybe the answer. The ST she has is wonderful but perhaps someone different can shed some light. I know every person has a different approach to things and perhaps that is what she needs. A different approach! I just don't want to get down the road and think I wish I had ----. Another thing that could be her problem is in the sp. ed class are other children (only 1 HI who goes to a pvt. pres and here one day/week)with speech delays and they don't stimulate her thinking as a hearing 4 yo would. Thanks again. > Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. > She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she > needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. > For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with > the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, > but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. > If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, > speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some > background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program > for her. > I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did > that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, > wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though > she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she > was older and speech was her primary language. > Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does > their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she > will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. > My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and > didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she > wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they > want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they > done understand makes them stand out. > We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something > that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. > I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and > don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents > of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you > live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just > make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on > her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so > on... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2003 Report Share Posted April 7, 2003 Thank you so much for the encouragement and advice. She is in a sp. edu. program and has a personal & class FM system. She receives ST 90 minutes a week fromt he school ST and her sp. ed teacher has worked with some HI kids and knows some CS. She has been in this program since August last year. She does very well with solid information. But has trouble coming up with her own ideas. However this evening she told me she wanted to plant a garden. To expand her thoughts I asked what are you gonna plant and she said " chocolate cookies and flowers " . She speaks in 9/10+ word sentences and most of it is intelligible but when comparing her to a hearing 4 yo she lags behind. She to is shy until she gets to know you then she will not be quiet. If you tell her to be quiet she will say " I don't wanna be quiet, I just wanna talk " . I think a private speech therapist maybe the answer. The ST she has is wonderful but perhaps someone different can shed some light. I know every person has a different approach to things and perhaps that is what she needs. A different approach! I just don't want to get down the road and think I wish I had ----. Another thing that could be her problem is in the sp. ed class are other children (only 1 HI who goes to a pvt. pres and here one day/week)with speech delays and they don't stimulate her thinking as a hearing 4 yo would. Thanks again. > Right now you need to get her to a private speech therapist. > She already has speech, make sure that you state clearly on her iep what she > needs. If she is behind in speech stress that. > For hh kids a hi program is beneficial they generally have the teachers with > the skills needed to teach these kids and the classrooms with hi kids in it, > but I would look into it and make sure that speech is stressed and not sign. > If the reg school in a mainstream classroom can accommodate what she needs, > speech therapy, FM system, hi teacher, and most of all a teacher who has some > background in hi children then this may also be a more appropriate program > for her. > I would be weary of sending a speaking child to a deaf environment. I did > that with my daughter thinking it could benefit her and open some doors, > wrong, her speech went downhill and her academics went with it. Even though > she knew asl it wasn't a proper placement for her. but I did this when she > was older and speech was her primary language. > Just remember too that she is only 4 and just like growth spurts so does > their language. She may not being saying much now but in a month or two she > will pick up more. Kids are like sponges. > My daughter went through stages with her speech, she is somewhat shy and > didn't want to speak up. If she didn't understand what the teacher said she > wouldn't speak up to say so. Hh kids are good at going under the radar they > want to be normal but they aren't to some degree and to speak out to say they > done understand makes them stand out. > We had to teach my daughter to realize that she if she doesn't hear something > that its OK to say she didn't hear it or that she didn't understand. > I don't know if what I said helps you at all but you know your child best and > don't let the educators tell you what's best. Reach out to the other parents > of hh and deaf kids and get their opinion on the school system where you > live. If one program does not work for her you can always change but just > make sure you know why it didn't and make sure you address those issues on > her iep. What is right for you daughter may not benefit my daughter and so > on... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 <<Do HI children/adults communicate on the same level as hearing children/adults? If so what can I do to help her develop more communication?>> a, I think the answer to your question depends on many factors but yes, many HI children and adults communicate on the same level as hearing people. In our case, my son was identified very late (at age 4) with a mild to severe loss, which has progressed, and his language skills were severely delayed. We did try the Head Start program but it was combined with a " Ready-start " program where ANY kids with developmental delays were placed and the children with behavioral issues got the attention. We placed in a school for hearing impaired children where all information is spoken and signed using Signed Exact English. (The kids are required to do this too.) Within 2 1/2 years, went from his tested 2-year-old level of communication to age-appropriate, with minor exceptions. He is now 7, signs SEE beautifully and speaks just as well with only a slight slurring and difficulty with " s " . He is also reading at about a 3rd grade level and we are considering mainstreaming. In our area, we had the option of school programs which utilize ASL but found that oral skills were not stressed or required (in the schools near us...I'm not making a blanket statement about all such programs.) The philosophy at ' school is to teach English first and then to introduce ASL in the later grades. Generally, the children still in the school by that time have greater hearing loss and may be more reliant on sign in the future. And the point of all my rambling? Gee, what was it again? LOL! Oh yeah, I guess it was to give you one more example of what's out there for our kiddos and what methods worked for us. I think if had been identified as early as your daughter was, he may not have needed to be immersed in such a program. (Then again, we are quite happy that we have sign knowledge to build on in the future as his loss will probably continue to progress. ) But do watch out for Head Start programs as, in my experience, districts sometimes place children there who also need services and therefore cannot provide the " typical peer " modeling your child needs. Carol - mom to , 6.11, mod to profound, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 <<Do HI children/adults communicate on the same level as hearing children/adults? If so what can I do to help her develop more communication?>> a, I think the answer to your question depends on many factors but yes, many HI children and adults communicate on the same level as hearing people. In our case, my son was identified very late (at age 4) with a mild to severe loss, which has progressed, and his language skills were severely delayed. We did try the Head Start program but it was combined with a " Ready-start " program where ANY kids with developmental delays were placed and the children with behavioral issues got the attention. We placed in a school for hearing impaired children where all information is spoken and signed using Signed Exact English. (The kids are required to do this too.) Within 2 1/2 years, went from his tested 2-year-old level of communication to age-appropriate, with minor exceptions. He is now 7, signs SEE beautifully and speaks just as well with only a slight slurring and difficulty with " s " . He is also reading at about a 3rd grade level and we are considering mainstreaming. In our area, we had the option of school programs which utilize ASL but found that oral skills were not stressed or required (in the schools near us...I'm not making a blanket statement about all such programs.) The philosophy at ' school is to teach English first and then to introduce ASL in the later grades. Generally, the children still in the school by that time have greater hearing loss and may be more reliant on sign in the future. And the point of all my rambling? Gee, what was it again? LOL! Oh yeah, I guess it was to give you one more example of what's out there for our kiddos and what methods worked for us. I think if had been identified as early as your daughter was, he may not have needed to be immersed in such a program. (Then again, we are quite happy that we have sign knowledge to build on in the future as his loss will probably continue to progress. ) But do watch out for Head Start programs as, in my experience, districts sometimes place children there who also need services and therefore cannot provide the " typical peer " modeling your child needs. Carol - mom to , 6.11, mod to profound, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 <<Do HI children/adults communicate on the same level as hearing children/adults? If so what can I do to help her develop more communication?>> a, I think the answer to your question depends on many factors but yes, many HI children and adults communicate on the same level as hearing people. In our case, my son was identified very late (at age 4) with a mild to severe loss, which has progressed, and his language skills were severely delayed. We did try the Head Start program but it was combined with a " Ready-start " program where ANY kids with developmental delays were placed and the children with behavioral issues got the attention. We placed in a school for hearing impaired children where all information is spoken and signed using Signed Exact English. (The kids are required to do this too.) Within 2 1/2 years, went from his tested 2-year-old level of communication to age-appropriate, with minor exceptions. He is now 7, signs SEE beautifully and speaks just as well with only a slight slurring and difficulty with " s " . He is also reading at about a 3rd grade level and we are considering mainstreaming. In our area, we had the option of school programs which utilize ASL but found that oral skills were not stressed or required (in the schools near us...I'm not making a blanket statement about all such programs.) The philosophy at ' school is to teach English first and then to introduce ASL in the later grades. Generally, the children still in the school by that time have greater hearing loss and may be more reliant on sign in the future. And the point of all my rambling? Gee, what was it again? LOL! Oh yeah, I guess it was to give you one more example of what's out there for our kiddos and what methods worked for us. I think if had been identified as early as your daughter was, he may not have needed to be immersed in such a program. (Then again, we are quite happy that we have sign knowledge to build on in the future as his loss will probably continue to progress. ) But do watch out for Head Start programs as, in my experience, districts sometimes place children there who also need services and therefore cannot provide the " typical peer " modeling your child needs. Carol - mom to , 6.11, mod to profound, EVAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Hi Carol, Thanks for sharing and I am so glad to know is doing well. I am just so afraid I will not make the right decision now and when she is in the 3rd grade I will wish I had done things differently. I am going to take CS classes. My question is do you/anybody know if CS/SEE/ASL is one better than the other in helping a child learn to develop more language? An example of what I am talking about is: Her cousin is a few months younger and when we visit and are ready to leave they don't want to seperate. Her cousin will say " Can B stay a little bit longer " like a 10 year old and Brittany will throw a fit and cry saying " I don't want to go home " like a 2 yo. Her 3 1/2 yo cousin just has so much more language than she does and uses it quite well. I guess I am looking for what can I do to help her develop more language? I checked out the HS program and this year there is only one child with speech delays out of 13. I don't know what next year will bring. I do know the special ed. program she is in now that most if not all of the children have more delays than she does. I guess I should visit the Regional Hearing Impaired Program. I'm just afraid like one post said it may set her back... Thanks a > <<Do HI children/adults communicate on the same level as > hearing children/adults? If so what can I do to help her develop > more communication?>> > > a, > I think the answer to your question depends on many factors but yes, many HI children and adults communicate on the same level as hearing people. In our case, my son was identified very late (at age 4) with a mild to severe loss, which has progressed, and his language skills were severely delayed. We did try the Head Start program but it was combined with a " Ready-start " program where ANY kids with developmental delays were placed and the children with behavioral issues got the attention. We placed in a school for hearing impaired children where all information is spoken and signed using Signed Exact English. (The kids are required to do this too.) Within 2 1/2 years, went from his tested 2-year-old level of communication to age-appropriate, with minor exceptions. He is now 7, signs SEE beautifully and speaks just as well with only a slight slurring and difficulty with " s " . He is also reading at about a 3rd grade level and we are considering mainstreaming. > > In our area, we had the option of school programs which utilize ASL but found that oral skills were not stressed or required (in the schools near us...I'm not making a blanket statement about all such programs.) The philosophy at ' school is to teach English first and then to introduce ASL in the later grades. Generally, the children still in the school by that time have greater hearing loss and may be more reliant on sign in the future. > > And the point of all my rambling? Gee, what was it again? LOL! Oh yeah, I guess it was to give you one more example of what's out there for our kiddos and what methods worked for us. I think if had been identified as early as your daughter was, he may not have needed to be immersed in such a program. (Then again, we are quite happy that we have sign knowledge to build on in the future as his loss will probably continue to progress. ) But do watch out for Head Start programs as, in my experience, districts sometimes place children there who also need services and therefore cannot provide the " typical peer " modeling your child needs. > > Carol - mom to , 6.11, mod to profound, EVAS > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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