Re: Ketones dropped after folinic acid supplement

[Guest guest]

Hi Leita

I don't know about folic acid and the diet, but I do remember reading that

although people with epilepsy can be low it, it can be difficult to

supplement because it can cause seizures in some.

Jill

At 07:05 AM 2/02/2004, you wrote:

>First I would like to say thankyou to all the input I had about ph

>testing. I still haven't persued that because something else has

>come up. We started Asha on Leucovorin last week [ folinic acid - a

>purified form of folic acid]. Her ketones dropped dramatically and

>we thought we had lost them altogether at one stage. I have

>increased her ratio from 1.5:1 to 2:1 and they are still on the low

>side. She has never had trouble keeping her ketones and if anything

>we have had trouble with them being too high. I wonder what is going

>on here? I read folic acid acid levels are low in people taking anti

>epileptic drugs, especially depakote which Asha hasn't had for years

>but was on it for a long time without supplements of folic acid.

>Does anyone know what effect folic acid has on the metabolism in

>reference to ketones, acidity or anything else that could be causing

>the low ketones? I wonder what the relationship is between depakote,

>folic acid absorbtion and ketones is ?

>Just thinking here. Leita.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Leita

I don't know about folic acid and the diet, but I do remember reading that

although people with epilepsy can be low it, it can be difficult to

supplement because it can cause seizures in some.

Jill

At 07:05 AM 2/02/2004, you wrote:

>First I would like to say thankyou to all the input I had about ph

>testing. I still haven't persued that because something else has

>come up. We started Asha on Leucovorin last week [ folinic acid - a

>purified form of folic acid]. Her ketones dropped dramatically and

>we thought we had lost them altogether at one stage. I have

>increased her ratio from 1.5:1 to 2:1 and they are still on the low

>side. She has never had trouble keeping her ketones and if anything

>we have had trouble with them being too high. I wonder what is going

>on here? I read folic acid acid levels are low in people taking anti

>epileptic drugs, especially depakote which Asha hasn't had for years

>but was on it for a long time without supplements of folic acid.

>Does anyone know what effect folic acid has on the metabolism in

>reference to ketones, acidity or anything else that could be causing

>the low ketones? I wonder what the relationship is between depakote,

>folic acid absorbtion and ketones is ?

>Just thinking here. Leita.

>

>

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> resort! "

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[Guest guest]

Leita,

Do you know the carb content of what you are giving Asha and are you

calculating that into her diet? It doesn't take much extra carb to

throw ketones out the window, especially at a low ratio. That

would be my first hunch about the sudden drop in ketones after

starting the supplement.

Supplements are soooo tricky because truly, most contain carbs.

as " fillers " . Sometimes they are recognizable, but sometimes they

are well " hidden " .

Cammie

> First I would like to say thankyou to all the input I had about ph

> testing. I still haven't persued that because something else has

> come up. We started Asha on Leucovorin last week [ folinic acid - a

> purified form of folic acid]. Her ketones dropped dramatically and

> we thought we had lost them altogether at one stage. I have

> increased her ratio from 1.5:1 to 2:1 and they are still on the low

> side. She has never had trouble keeping her ketones and if anything

> we have had trouble with them being too high. I wonder what is

going

> on here? I read folic acid acid levels are low in people taking

anti

> epileptic drugs, especially depakote which Asha hasn't had for

years

> but was on it for a long time without supplements of folic acid.

> Does anyone know what effect folic acid has on the metabolism in

> reference to ketones, acidity or anything else that could be

causing

> the low ketones? I wonder what the relationship is between

depakote,

> folic acid absorbtion and ketones is ?

> Just thinking here. Leita.