Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " wrote: > Good point, as usual, Kim. > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! > > pam > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > Licensed Educational Psychologist > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > 175 North Beacon St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > >> ---------- >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger >> Reply To: CHARGE >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM >> To: CHARGE >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais >> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. >> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. >> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. >> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I >>> find them so challenging. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michele W >>> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " wrote: > Good point, as usual, Kim. > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! > > pam > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > Licensed Educational Psychologist > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > 175 North Beacon St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > >> ---------- >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger >> Reply To: CHARGE >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM >> To: CHARGE >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais >> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. >> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. >> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. >> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I >>> find them so challenging. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michele W >>> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:) > > Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim > > On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " > wrote: > > > Good point, as usual, Kim. > > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods > were > > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have > different > > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge > and > > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for > anything. If > > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in > neuropsych! > > > > pam > > > > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > > Licensed Educational Psychologist > > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > > 175 North Beacon St. > > Watertown, MA 02472 > > > >> ---------- > >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > >> Reply To: CHARGE > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > >> To: CHARGE > >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais > >> > >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > >> > >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > >> > >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive > systems > >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web > site to > >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to > be > >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > >> > >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a > child > >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on > it. > >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before > the > >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it > when > >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like > Brain Gym > >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > >> > >> Kim > >> > >> > >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas " > wrote: > >> > >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to > know > >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no > practitioners > >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours > away. > >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of > thing > >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a > practitioner. > >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still > agonizing > >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday > the > >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or > she > >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't > decide > >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I > type > >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to > learn > >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - > and I > >>> find them so challenging. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Michele W > >>> > >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:) > > Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim > > On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " > wrote: > > > Good point, as usual, Kim. > > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods > were > > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have > different > > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge > and > > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for > anything. If > > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in > neuropsych! > > > > pam > > > > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > > Licensed Educational Psychologist > > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > > 175 North Beacon St. > > Watertown, MA 02472 > > > >> ---------- > >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > >> Reply To: CHARGE > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > >> To: CHARGE > >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais > >> > >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > >> > >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > >> > >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive > systems > >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web > site to > >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to > be > >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > >> > >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a > child > >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on > it. > >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before > the > >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it > when > >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like > Brain Gym > >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > >> > >> Kim > >> > >> > >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas " > wrote: > >> > >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to > know > >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no > practitioners > >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours > away. > >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of > thing > >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a > practitioner. > >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still > agonizing > >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday > the > >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or > she > >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't > decide > >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I > type > >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to > learn > >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - > and I > >>> find them so challenging. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Michele W > >>> > >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:) > > Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim > > On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " > wrote: > > > Good point, as usual, Kim. > > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods > were > > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have > different > > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge > and > > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for > anything. If > > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in > neuropsych! > > > > pam > > > > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > > Licensed Educational Psychologist > > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > > 175 North Beacon St. > > Watertown, MA 02472 > > > >> ---------- > >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > >> Reply To: CHARGE > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > >> To: CHARGE > >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais > >> > >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > >> > >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > >> > >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive > systems > >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web > site to > >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to > be > >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > >> > >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a > child > >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on > it. > >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before > the > >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it > when > >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like > Brain Gym > >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > >> > >> Kim > >> > >> > >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas " > wrote: > >> > >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to > know > >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no > practitioners > >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours > away. > >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of > thing > >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a > practitioner. > >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still > agonizing > >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday > the > >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or > she > >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't > decide > >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I > type > >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to > learn > >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - > and I > >>> find them so challenging. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Michele W > >>> > >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 I do send her specific questions at times when there is something major like a discussion about vestibular issues that happened on a different list serve. Then I report back - this list really takes too much time for the professionals to keep up with. Kim > kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:) > > >> >> Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim >> >> On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " >> wrote: >> >>> Good point, as usual, Kim. >>> I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods >> were >>> used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have >> different >>> ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge >> and >>> their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. >>> >>> Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for >> anything. If >>> I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in >> neuropsych! >>> >>> pam >>> >>> >>> Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS >>> Licensed Educational Psychologist >>> Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program >>> 175 North Beacon St. >>> Watertown, MA 02472 >>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger >>>> Reply To: CHARGE >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM >>>> To: CHARGE >>>> Subject: Re: feldenkrais >>>> >>>> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. >>>> >>>> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for >>>> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the >>>> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. >>>> >>>> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive >> systems >>>> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web >> site to >>>> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to >> be >>>> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. >>>> >>>> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a >> child >>>> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on >> it. >>>> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before >> the >>>> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it >> when >>>> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like >> Brain Gym >>>> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. >>>> >>>> Kim >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas " >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is >>>>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to >> know >>>>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no >> practitioners >>>>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours >> away. >>>>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of >> thing >>>>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a >> practitioner. >>>>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still >> agonizing >>>>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another >>>>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday >> the >>>>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or >> she >>>>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't >> decide >>>>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I >> type >>>>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to >> learn >>>>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other >>>>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - >> and I >>>>> find them so challenging. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Michele W >>>>> >>>>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Quote
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