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Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

wrote:

> Good point, as usual, Kim.

> I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were

> used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different

> ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and

> their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

>

> Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If

> I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych!

>

> pam

>

>

> Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

> Licensed Educational Psychologist

> Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

> 175 North Beacon St.

> Watertown, MA 02472

>

>> ----------

>> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

>> Reply To: CHARGE

>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

>> To: CHARGE

>> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

>>

>> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

>>

>> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

>> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

>> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

>>

>> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems

>> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to

>> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be

>> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

>>

>> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child

>> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it.

>> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the

>> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when

>> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym

>> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

>>

>> Kim

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

>>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know

>>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners

>>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away.

>>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing

>>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner.

>>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing

>>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

>>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the

>>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she

>>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide

>>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type

>>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn

>>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

>>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I

>>> find them so challenging.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Michele W

>>>

>>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

wrote:

> Good point, as usual, Kim.

> I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were

> used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different

> ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and

> their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

>

> Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If

> I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych!

>

> pam

>

>

> Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

> Licensed Educational Psychologist

> Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

> 175 North Beacon St.

> Watertown, MA 02472

>

>> ----------

>> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

>> Reply To: CHARGE

>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

>> To: CHARGE

>> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

>>

>> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

>>

>> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

>> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

>> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

>>

>> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems

>> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to

>> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be

>> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

>>

>> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child

>> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it.

>> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the

>> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when

>> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym

>> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

>>

>> Kim

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

>>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know

>>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners

>>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away.

>>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing

>>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner.

>>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing

>>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

>>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the

>>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she

>>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide

>>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type

>>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn

>>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

>>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I

>>> find them so challenging.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Michele W

>>>

>>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:)

>

> Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

>

> On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

> wrote:

>

> > Good point, as usual, Kim.

> > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods

> were

> > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have

> different

> > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge

> and

> > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

> >

> > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for

> anything. If

> > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in

> neuropsych!

> >

> > pam

> >

> >

> > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

> > Licensed Educational Psychologist

> > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

> > 175 North Beacon St.

> > Watertown, MA 02472

> >

> >> ----------

> >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

> >> Reply To: CHARGE

> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

> >> To: CHARGE

> >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

> >>

> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

> >>

> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

> >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

> >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

> >>

> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive

> systems

> >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web

> site to

> >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to

> be

> >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

> >>

> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a

> child

> >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on

> it.

> >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before

> the

> >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it

> when

> >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like

> Brain Gym

> >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

> >>

> >> Kim

> >>

> >>

> >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas "

> wrote:

> >>

> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

> >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to

> know

> >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no

> practitioners

> >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours

> away.

> >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of

> thing

> >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a

> practitioner.

> >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still

> agonizing

> >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

> >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday

> the

> >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or

> she

> >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't

> decide

> >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I

> type

> >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to

> learn

> >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

> >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs -

> and I

> >>> find them so challenging.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Michele W

> >>>

> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

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kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:)

>

> Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

>

> On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

> wrote:

>

> > Good point, as usual, Kim.

> > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods

> were

> > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have

> different

> > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge

> and

> > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

> >

> > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for

> anything. If

> > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in

> neuropsych!

> >

> > pam

> >

> >

> > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

> > Licensed Educational Psychologist

> > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

> > 175 North Beacon St.

> > Watertown, MA 02472

> >

> >> ----------

> >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

> >> Reply To: CHARGE

> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

> >> To: CHARGE

> >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

> >>

> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

> >>

> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

> >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

> >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

> >>

> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive

> systems

> >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web

> site to

> >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to

> be

> >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

> >>

> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a

> child

> >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on

> it.

> >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before

> the

> >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it

> when

> >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like

> Brain Gym

> >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

> >>

> >> Kim

> >>

> >>

> >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas "

> wrote:

> >>

> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

> >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to

> know

> >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no

> practitioners

> >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours

> away.

> >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of

> thing

> >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a

> practitioner.

> >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still

> agonizing

> >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

> >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday

> the

> >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or

> she

> >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't

> decide

> >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I

> type

> >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to

> learn

> >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

> >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs -

> and I

> >>> find them so challenging.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Michele W

> >>>

> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

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kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:)

>

> Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

>

> On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

> wrote:

>

> > Good point, as usual, Kim.

> > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods

> were

> > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have

> different

> > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge

> and

> > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

> >

> > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for

> anything. If

> > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in

> neuropsych!

> >

> > pam

> >

> >

> > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

> > Licensed Educational Psychologist

> > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

> > 175 North Beacon St.

> > Watertown, MA 02472

> >

> >> ----------

> >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

> >> Reply To: CHARGE

> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

> >> To: CHARGE

> >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

> >>

> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

> >>

> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

> >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

> >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

> >>

> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive

> systems

> >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web

> site to

> >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to

> be

> >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

> >>

> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a

> child

> >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on

> it.

> >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before

> the

> >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it

> when

> >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like

> Brain Gym

> >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

> >>

> >> Kim

> >>

> >>

> >> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas "

> wrote:

> >>

> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

> >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to

> know

> >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no

> practitioners

> >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours

> away.

> >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of

> thing

> >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a

> practitioner.

> >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still

> agonizing

> >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

> >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday

> the

> >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or

> she

> >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't

> decide

> >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I

> type

> >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to

> learn

> >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

> >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs -

> and I

> >>> find them so challenging.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Michele W

> >>>

> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

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I do send her specific questions at times when there is something major like

a discussion about vestibular issues that happened on a different list

serve. Then I report back - this list really takes too much time for the

professionals to keep up with.

Kim

> kim i wish judith was eather on this list or had a list of her own lol:)

>

>

>>

>> Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim

>>

>> On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... "

>> wrote:

>>

>>> Good point, as usual, Kim.

>>> I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods

>> were

>>> used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have

>> different

>>> ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge

>> and

>>> their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits.

>>>

>>> Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for

>> anything. If

>>> I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in

>> neuropsych!

>>>

>>> pam

>>>

>>>

>>> Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS

>>> Licensed Educational Psychologist

>>> Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program

>>> 175 North Beacon St.

>>> Watertown, MA 02472

>>>

>>>> ----------

>>>> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger

>>>> Reply To: CHARGE

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM

>>>> To: CHARGE

>>>> Subject: Re: feldenkrais

>>>>

>>>> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments.

>>>>

>>>> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for

>>>> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the

>>>> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE.

>>>>

>>>> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive

>> systems

>>>> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web

>> site to

>>>> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to

>> be

>>>> able to compare it to what HANDLE does.

>>>>

>>>> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a

>> child

>>>> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on

>> it.

>>>> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before

>> the

>>>> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it

>> when

>>>> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like

>> Brain Gym

>>>> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know.

>>>>

>>>> Kim

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On 3/1/06 7:41 AM, " Michele Westmaas "

>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is

>>>>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to

>> know

>>>>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no

>> practitioners

>>>>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours

>> away.

>>>>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of

>> thing

>>>>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a

>> practitioner.

>>>>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still

>> agonizing

>>>>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another

>>>>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday

>> the

>>>>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or

>> she

>>>>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't

>> decide

>>>>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I

>> type

>>>>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to

>> learn

>>>>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other

>>>>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs -

>> and I

>>>>> find them so challenging.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Michele W

>>>>>

>>>>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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