Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I will look into this, but better not now or I will not get my real job done again. I do find it interesting that our Project is looking to hire someone who is a teacher of the deafblind and who has worked with this method. When Cindi mentioned the method to me, I had never heard of it, and then here you mention it today. Definitely a link to look into. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I will look into this, but better not now or I will not get my real job done again. I do find it interesting that our Project is looking to hire someone who is a teacher of the deafblind and who has worked with this method. When Cindi mentioned the method to me, I had never heard of it, and then here you mention it today. Definitely a link to look into. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I will look into this, but better not now or I will not get my real job done again. I do find it interesting that our Project is looking to hire someone who is a teacher of the deafblind and who has worked with this method. When Cindi mentioned the method to me, I had never heard of it, and then here you mention it today. Definitely a link to look into. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I think attending HANDLE now could be very important for you, simply because what you learn there will help you understand everything the neuropsych explains to you at the conclusion of Aubrie's testing! Learn from HANDLE, get the recommendations from the neuropsych, then you can figure out what program to do at home - it will all come together! Do not go in thinking you are going to become the expert and feel pressured by it - simply go with the aim of enhancing your own knowing of your daughter. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I think attending HANDLE now could be very important for you, simply because what you learn there will help you understand everything the neuropsych explains to you at the conclusion of Aubrie's testing! Learn from HANDLE, get the recommendations from the neuropsych, then you can figure out what program to do at home - it will all come together! Do not go in thinking you are going to become the expert and feel pressured by it - simply go with the aim of enhancing your own knowing of your daughter. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele - I think attending HANDLE now could be very important for you, simply because what you learn there will help you understand everything the neuropsych explains to you at the conclusion of Aubrie's testing! Learn from HANDLE, get the recommendations from the neuropsych, then you can figure out what program to do at home - it will all come together! Do not go in thinking you are going to become the expert and feel pressured by it - simply go with the aim of enhancing your own knowing of your daughter. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kim- I think you are so right. In fact, when I consider the timing of it all -- the HANDLE training right now in Chicago, finding this particular specialist, at a time when the school is receptive...this teacher with Aubrie for a 2nd year who so totally gets it... it's that choir of angels watching over Aubrie and orchestrating her life... Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Michele - I think attending HANDLE now could be very important for you, simply because what you learn there will help you understand everything the neuropsych explains to you at the conclusion of Aubrie's testing! Learn from HANDLE, get the recommendations from the neuropsych, then you can figure out what program to do at home - it will all come together! Do not go in thinking you are going to become the expert and feel pressured by it - simply go with the aim of enhancing your own knowing of your daughter. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, I only have a moment, but as I read this and noted the Feldenkrais I wanted to say, don't think that there won't be anyone near you. We have had several PT's over the years on our campus who are Feldenkrais trained. So....you may have someone closer than you think!! pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 9:41 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: feldenkrais > > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 It sure seems that way. I am so thankful for the choir of angels watching over Dylan's. Kim > Kim- > I think you are so right. In fact, when I consider the timing of it all -- > the HANDLE training right now in Chicago, finding this particular > specialist, at a time when the school is receptive...this teacher with > Aubrie for a 2nd year who so totally gets it... it's that choir of angels > watching over Aubrie and orchestrating her life... > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > Re: feldenkrais > > Michele - I think attending HANDLE now could be very important for you, > simply because what you learn there will help you understand everything the > neuropsych explains to you at the conclusion of Aubrie's testing! > Learn from HANDLE, get the recommendations from the neuropsych, then you can > figure out what program to do at home - it will all come together! > > Do not go in thinking you are going to become the expert and feel pressured > by it - simply go with the aim of enhancing your own knowing of your > daughter. > > Kim > > > > > > >> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is >> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to > know >> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners >> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. >> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of > thing >> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a > practitioner. >> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still > agonizing >> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another >> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the >> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she >> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't > decide >> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type >> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to > learn >> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other >> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I >> find them so challenging. >> >> >> >> >> >> Michele W >> >> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be able to compare it to what HANDLE does. I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be able to compare it to what HANDLE does. I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be able to compare it to what HANDLE does. I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Pam- Unfortunately, I already searched the database and found no one closer than 3 hours. And none at all in the St Louis area. I did go to MA just for fun and found many!! Did you see benefits of the approach with the kids at your school? Do you have experience with both Feldenkrais and HANDLE to comment on the differences? Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ RE: feldenkrais Michele, I only have a moment, but as I read this and noted the Feldenkrais I wanted to say, don't think that there won't be anyone near you. We have had several PT's over the years on our campus who are Feldenkrais trained. So....you may have someone closer than you think!! pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Aha- and it seems to me that HANDLE is developed for kids with neuro problems. Where feldenkrais is developed for " normal " people and then applied to those with problems. That's a big difference. The doctor's exact words were that " Feldenkrais would be a Godsend for her " . I have always felt that way about HANDLE too. I know that something addressing these issues is exactly what she needs. How to get it done in a way that fits with our life, that's my hold up. So I'm now convinced that I need to attend the HANDLE course, keep with this dr, and follow wherever the path may lead. At least I've finally found the trailhead to the right path!! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be able to compare it to what HANDLE does. I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Aha- and it seems to me that HANDLE is developed for kids with neuro problems. Where feldenkrais is developed for " normal " people and then applied to those with problems. That's a big difference. The doctor's exact words were that " Feldenkrais would be a Godsend for her " . I have always felt that way about HANDLE too. I know that something addressing these issues is exactly what she needs. How to get it done in a way that fits with our life, that's my hold up. So I'm now convinced that I need to attend the HANDLE course, keep with this dr, and follow wherever the path may lead. At least I've finally found the trailhead to the right path!! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be able to compare it to what HANDLE does. I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. Kim > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > find them so challenging. > > > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Michele, I felt that way about HANDLE when Dylan was 3 and Tyler was 11, yet I didn't do it until the need was glaringly obvious with Dylan's tics at age 7 and still have not done it for Tyler, so just trust when and if the time is right the pieces will come together. I look back now and think if I had done HANDLE with Dylan at age 3, I might not have seen the dramatic difference I saw in him when we did it at 7, simply because the need was not so obvious. If so, then I might have written it off as not useful enough or not the right thing if he had then presented with tics 4 years later, so I am happy with our timing of when we did it. Kim > I have > always felt that way about HANDLE too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point, as usual, Kim. I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: feldenkrais > > Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > > My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > > I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems > which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to > know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be > able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > > I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child > can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. > With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the > child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when > it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym > or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > > Kim > > > > > > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > > find them so challenging. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michele W > > > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point, as usual, Kim. I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: feldenkrais > > Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > > My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > > I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems > which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to > know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be > able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > > I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child > can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. > With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the > child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when > it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym > or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > > Kim > > > > > > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > > find them so challenging. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michele W > > > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point, as usual, Kim. I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: feldenkrais > > Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. > > My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for > Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the > neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. > > I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems > which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to > know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be > able to compare it to what HANDLE does. > > I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child > can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. > With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the > child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when > it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym > or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. > > Kim > > > > > > The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is > > www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know > > your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners > > near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. > > But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing > > that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. > > So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing > > about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another > > weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the > > Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she > > could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide > > if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type > > that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn > > something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other > > opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I > > find them so challenging. > > > > > > > > > > > > Michele W > > > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point! The timing of life really does work out if we allow ourselves to go with the flow and be open to what needs to be done and when. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Michele, I felt that way about HANDLE when Dylan was 3 and Tyler was 11, yet I didn't do it until the need was glaringly obvious with Dylan's tics at age 7 and still have not done it for Tyler, so just trust when and if the time is right the pieces will come together. I look back now and think if I had done HANDLE with Dylan at age 3, I might not have seen the dramatic difference I saw in him when we did it at 7, simply because the need was not so obvious. If so, then I might have written it off as not useful enough or not the right thing if he had then presented with tics 4 years later, so I am happy with our timing of when we did it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point! The timing of life really does work out if we allow ourselves to go with the flow and be open to what needs to be done and when. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Michele, I felt that way about HANDLE when Dylan was 3 and Tyler was 11, yet I didn't do it until the need was glaringly obvious with Dylan's tics at age 7 and still have not done it for Tyler, so just trust when and if the time is right the pieces will come together. I look back now and think if I had done HANDLE with Dylan at age 3, I might not have seen the dramatic difference I saw in him when we did it at 7, simply because the need was not so obvious. If so, then I might have written it off as not useful enough or not the right thing if he had then presented with tics 4 years later, so I am happy with our timing of when we did it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Good point! The timing of life really does work out if we allow ourselves to go with the flow and be open to what needs to be done and when. Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Re: feldenkrais Michele, I felt that way about HANDLE when Dylan was 3 and Tyler was 11, yet I didn't do it until the need was glaringly obvious with Dylan's tics at age 7 and still have not done it for Tyler, so just trust when and if the time is right the pieces will come together. I look back now and think if I had done HANDLE with Dylan at age 3, I might not have seen the dramatic difference I saw in him when we did it at 7, simply because the need was not so obvious. If so, then I might have written it off as not useful enough or not the right thing if he had then presented with tics 4 years later, so I am happy with our timing of when we did it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hi Michele, you have probably read the other post by now--not sure I can really comment on the progress as I am not so sure what they were going for. I do know that two PT in particular were always so please with the philosophy and integrated it all into their treatments--much the way I hear people talk about HANDLE. I have no experience at all with HANDLE but want some so I can really know about this. Perhaps a field trip..... I will be so looking forward to hearing all that happens and what you think, learn, etc. pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:03 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: feldenkrais > > Pam- > Unfortunately, I already searched the database and found no one closer than > 3 hours. And none at all in the St Louis area. I did go to MA just for fun > and found many!! > > Did you see benefits of the approach with the kids at your school? Do you > have experience with both Feldenkrais and HANDLE to comment on the > differences? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > RE: feldenkrais > > Michele, > I only have a moment, but as I read this and noted the Feldenkrais I wanted > to say, don't think that there won't be anyone near you. We have had several > PT's over the years on our campus who are Feldenkrais trained. So....you may > have someone closer than you think!! > pam > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > Licensed Educational Psychologist > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > 175 North Beacon St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hi Michele, you have probably read the other post by now--not sure I can really comment on the progress as I am not so sure what they were going for. I do know that two PT in particular were always so please with the philosophy and integrated it all into their treatments--much the way I hear people talk about HANDLE. I have no experience at all with HANDLE but want some so I can really know about this. Perhaps a field trip..... I will be so looking forward to hearing all that happens and what you think, learn, etc. pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 11:03 AM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: feldenkrais > > Pam- > Unfortunately, I already searched the database and found no one closer than > 3 hours. And none at all in the St Louis area. I did go to MA just for fun > and found many!! > > Did you see benefits of the approach with the kids at your school? Do you > have experience with both Feldenkrais and HANDLE to comment on the > differences? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > RE: feldenkrais > > Michele, > I only have a moment, but as I read this and noted the Feldenkrais I wanted > to say, don't think that there won't be anyone near you. We have had several > PT's over the years on our campus who are Feldenkrais trained. So....you may > have someone closer than you think!! > pam > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > Licensed Educational Psychologist > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > 175 North Beacon St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Thanks Pam for the vote of confidence. Kim On 3/1/06 9:39 AM, " pamela.ryan@... " wrote: > Good point, as usual, Kim. > I don't know a lot about it myself, but I know that when the methods were > used, progress was noted. Now, I am not a PT so they probably have different > ideas about what is progress to them based on their field and knowledge and > their own goals. So...like anything, I guess, there can be limits. > > Kim. I can't believe anyone would make you go back to school for anything. If > I ran the world, you would SO have your PhD, EdD, whatever in neuropsych! > > pam > > > Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS > Licensed Educational Psychologist > Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program > 175 North Beacon St. > Watertown, MA 02472 > >> ---------- >> From: CHARGE on behalf of Kim Lauger >> Reply To: CHARGE >> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:56 AM >> To: CHARGE >> Subject: Re: feldenkrais >> >> Okay I couldn't resist looking it up after Pam's comments. >> >> My first instinct is that it would be great for you or me and great for >> Aubrie in place of or to enhance her Karate, but that for the >> neurodevelopment enhancement, I would stick with HANDLE. >> >> I am sure the movement is addressing vestibular and proprioceptive systems >> which are so key for our kids, I just don't know enough from the web site to >> know what the movements are and the underlying purpose of each one to be >> able to compare it to what HANDLE does. >> >> I am picturing Brain Gym which is very effective for many, but when a child >> can't do that movement pattern they are instructed to keep working on it. >> With HANDLE they would be wanting to enhance the weak systems before the >> child was introduced to that movement, so they would be able to do it when >> it was introduced. I do not know if the Feldenkrais would be like Brain Gym >> or HANDLE in this example, but I would want to know. >> >> Kim >> >> >> >> >>> The method the neuropsych recommended is Feldenkrais. The website is >>> www.feldenkrais.com <http://www.feldenkrais.com/> . Kim - I'd love to know >>> your thoughts. It looks promising enough, but there are no practitioners >>> near me - of course. Not any in St Louis! The nearest are 3 hours away. >>> But there are many exercises available online. It may be the kind of thing >>> that you can truly do at home with some initial support from a practitioner. >>> So it may be more do-able than HANDLE. I don't know. I am still agonizing >>> about attending the 2-day HANDLE training in April. It means another >>> weekend away from my family. Life is just crazy. And that Saturday the >>> Brownies are going to the zoo. Aubrie could still go without me, or she >>> could go up north and spend a fun weekend with her grandma. I can't decide >>> if I need to spend time with my daughter or learn about her. As I type >>> that, I think it's more important to take this one-time opportunity to learn >>> something that will help her forever and then be sure to take other >>> opportunties to spend time together. There are so many trade-offs - and I >>> find them so challenging. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michele W >>> >>> mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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