Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Posted March 1, 2006 Thought some people woulf find this interesting Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly Web-posted Feb 24, 2006 By JERRY WOLFFE Of The Oakland Press A proposed change in the Air r Access Act might force disabled people to buy airline tickets for their guide and service animals when traveling by air in the United States and overseas. " The current policy is that you go on the plane with your dog and the animal sits at the owner's feet, " said Pat Paterno, manager of media relations at Leader Dogs for the Blind in Rochester Hills. " The Department of Transportation wants to permit airlines to charge for an extra seat or put the dogs in the cargo hold or have the disabled person and service animal wait for a less crowded flight. " Leader Dogs, founded in 1939, has had about 13,000 graduates. It pays for about 300 visually impaired and blind students each year to visit the facility and be trained to use guide dogs, which cost about $38,000 each. Lions Clubs and private donors often cover the cost of providing a guide dog for a blind person. " This is going to negatively affect thousands of people, " said Paterno. Joan Froling of the International Association of Assistance Dog Partners estimated there are about 25,000 Americans working with assistance dogs. The proposed changes in the Access Act were first made Nov. 4, 2004, when the DOT published a Notice of Proposed Rule Making in the Federal Register concerning air travel by passengers with disabilities. Already, rest rooms in airplanes are too small to be accessible to a wheelchair user, so doctors often tell disabled travelers to dehydrate themselves before flying. " The stated goal was to clarify existing rules and make air travel more accessible for disabled Americans, " IAADP said in a statement. " However, a segment of that document would have the opposite effect for a portion of the disabled American community. " Rod Haneline, chief operating officer of Leader Dogs, noted, " The airlines talked about this before, and now apparently the DOT has issued proposed rules to authorize airlines to charge a disabled passenger for an extra ticket if the disabled person's service dog doesn't fit into the small amount of floor space directly in front of where the disabled person is sitting on an airplane. " The alternative being proposed, Haneline said, is the team would be separated with the service dog going into the cargo hold or both waiting for a later flight where there might be room for the service animal and the disabled person to sit in the cabin. " This is not fair, " he continued. " The dog is your choice of a mobility tool. You're being discriminated against, in essence, because your choice of a mobility tool doesn't fit perfectly into their seat. " Friends and members of the IAADP have flooded the DOT Public Comment site with more than 1,150 responses critical of the proposed rule changes. " The issue is crucial to our freedom to travel with a guide, hearing or service animal, " Froling said. " We expect the final rules to take effect this summer. " She said DOT first said it was a safety issue and now the airlines say it's a financial burden because they can't charge for a second seat. If this rule goes into effect, Froling said, " it will make travel unaffordable for many disabled Americans. It deprives us of the access rights we've had for over 30 years and there has never been a complaint from a passenger to DOT about assistance animals. " Privacy Disclaimer - Français à suivre This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is priviledged, proprietary, confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ --- Déclaration de confidentialité Le présent courrier électronique (y compris les pièces qui y sont annexées, le cas échéant) s'adresse au destinataire indiqué et peut contenir des renseignements de caractère privé ou confidentiel. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire de ce document, nous vous signalons qu'il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, de le distribuer ou de le reproduire. Si ce message vous a été transmis par erreur, veuillez en informer l'expéditeur et le supprimer immédiatement. _______________________________________________ Skyclub-l mailing list Skyclub-l@... http://list.web.net/lists/listinfo/skyclub-l Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 - Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that info here. RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly - Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that info here. RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly - Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that info here. RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly - Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. For information about the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), please contact marion@... or visit the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) 8th International CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 Well what about if you have to fly to someplace to a guide school. You have to pay for an extra ticket to get your dog back? A lot of dissabled ppl dont have the money to afford the extra ticket. its hard enough to pay for your own! Geeze what idiots come up with these legislations? Chantelle > > That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that info here. > > > RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > > - > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 ezactly what i was thing today our primeminister is liek then years in ofice and if he did soemthing like that id be wacking him on the head lol > > Well what about if you have to fly to someplace to a guide school. > You have to pay for an extra ticket to get your dog back? A lot of > dissabled ppl dont have the money to afford the extra ticket. its > hard enough to pay for your own! Geeze what idiots come up with > these legislations? > > > Chantelle > > > > > > > That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that > info here. > > > > > > RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > > > > > - > > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new > rule? > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute > membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome > Canada. > > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > > please contact marion@... or visit > > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > > > 8th International > > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be > available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 acutraly i want to wack him over the head for heaps of things thats y i said lol > > ezactly what i was thing today our primeminister is liek then years in > ofice and if he did soemthing like that id be wacking him on the head lol > > > > > > Well what about if you have to fly to someplace to a guide school. > > You have to pay for an extra ticket to get your dog back? A lot of > > dissabled ppl dont have the money to afford the extra ticket. its > > hard enough to pay for your own! Geeze what idiots come up with > > these legislations? > > > > > > Chantelle > > > > > > > > > > > > That i dont know, but when I find out, i will certianly post that > > info here. > > > > > > > > > RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > > > > > > > > - > > > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new > > rule? > > > > > > Michele W > > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > > > > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute > > membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome > > Canada. > > > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > > > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > > > please contact marion@... or visit > > > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > > > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > > > > > 8th International > > > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be > > available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 and Michele, I got an email this morning from the Usher Syndrome group and this story is false. There was a call made to the LEader Dog people and this they confirmed that the story is false and traveling with guide dogs will not change--no fee, no traveling separately or having to go on different flights. Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Michele Westmaas > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 10:37 PM > To: CHARGE > Subject: RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > - > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 I'm glad you were able to clear that up! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 I'm glad you were able to clear that up! Michele W mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks Pam! I am very glad to hear that! That message was forwarded on to one of my guide dog lists, I will pass along the news that its fake. Chrisitne RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > - > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks Pam! I am very glad to hear that! That message was forwarded on to one of my guide dog lists, I will pass along the news that its fake. Chrisitne RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > - > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 Thanks Pam! I am very glad to hear that! That message was forwarded on to one of my guide dog lists, I will pass along the news that its fake. Chrisitne RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > - > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > Michele W > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > please contact marion@... or visit > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > 8th International > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > Quote
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2006 Report Posted March 2, 2006 , I got it from the Usher Syndrome list (don't have the address) and got it also from a deafblind friend from the Congenital Rubella list. It seems it was a hoax! Can you imagine someone doing this as a JOKE????? Anyway, the Leader Dog school is going to put out a statement, last I heard. pam Pamela J. , M.A., CAGS Licensed Educational Psychologist Perkins School for the Blind, Deafblind Program 175 North Beacon St. Watertown, MA 02472 > ---------- > From: CHARGE on behalf of Nieder > Reply To: CHARGE > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 2:13 PM > To: CHARGE > Subject: Re: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > Thanks Pam! I am very glad to hear that! That message was forwarded on to one of my guide dog lists, I will pass along the news that its fake. > > Chrisitne > RE: Leader dogs may soon need a ticket to fly > > > > - > > Do you know who we contact to voice our opposition to this new rule? > > > > Michele W > > mom to Aubrie 8 yrs CHARGE, 14 yrs and wife to DJ > > > > > > > > CHARGE SYNDROME LISTSERV PHOTO PAGE: > > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2117043995 > > > > Membership of this email support groups does not constitute membership in the CHARGE Syndrome Foundation or CHARGE Syndrome Canada. > > For information about the CHARGE Syndrome > > Foundation or to become a member (and get the newsletter), > > please contact marion@... or visit > > the web site at http://www.chargesyndrome.org > > (CHARGE Syndrome Canada - http://www.chargesyndrome.ca) > > > > 8th International > > CHARGE Syndrome Conference, July, 2007. Information will be available at www.chargesyndrome.org or by calling 1-. > > Quote
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