Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

[Guest guest]

I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's.

We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this

happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not

only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to

thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families

grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top

notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the

butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me

know something.

Darren

Bledsoe wrote:

You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

(EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Professor, EM

GWUMC

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Christy

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

To:

Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Will mail it. Kay

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

> Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back

> in one of my other incarnations.

> I've held management positions in many different companies that I've

> worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in

> several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee

> problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the

> various divisions and find out what the differences were.

> In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it

> back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom.

> The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu

> threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their

> company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way

> or the hiway " . types.

> On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had

> managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them.

> These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that

> was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he

> would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had

> time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that

> were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any

> chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His

> employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes

> that made it work.

> Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar.

> From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say

> their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read

> about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that

> comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and

> definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies.

> If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should

> fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself

> then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to

> fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager.

> Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits.

> Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all.

> JoeT.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Will mail it. Kay

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

> Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back

> in one of my other incarnations.

> I've held management positions in many different companies that I've

> worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in

> several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee

> problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the

> various divisions and find out what the differences were.

> In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it

> back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom.

> The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu

> threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their

> company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way

> or the hiway " . types.

> On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had

> managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them.

> These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that

> was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he

> would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had

> time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that

> were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any

> chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His

> employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes

> that made it work.

> Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar.

> From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say

> their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read

> about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that

> comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and

> definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies.

> If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should

> fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself

> then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to

> fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager.

> Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits.

> Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all.

> JoeT.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is it time for a union at MedStar?

Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the

pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union

works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you.

I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's

going on, that's something that the troops might look into.

Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not

the union has benefited them or not.

It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present

management, so what's there to lose?

Gene G.

> I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the

> employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot

let

> this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med

> Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that

> comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that

> families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient,

being

> in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip

> this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud

> again. Let me know something.

>                                         Darren

>

> Bledsoe wrote:

> You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

> (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

> does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Professor, EM

> GWUMC

>

>   _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Christy

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is it time for a union at MedStar?

Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the

pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union

works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you.

I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's

going on, that's something that the troops might look into.

Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not

the union has benefited them or not.

It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present

management, so what's there to lose?

Gene G.

> I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the

> employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot

let

> this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med

> Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that

> comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that

> families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient,

being

> in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip

> this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud

> again. Let me know something.

>                                         Darren

>

> Bledsoe wrote:

> You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

> (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

> does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Professor, EM

> GWUMC

>

>   _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Christy

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is it time for a union at MedStar?

Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the

pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union

works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you.

I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's

going on, that's something that the troops might look into.

Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not

the union has benefited them or not.

It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present

management, so what's there to lose?

Gene G.

> I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the

> employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot

let

> this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med

> Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that

> comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that

> families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient,

being

> in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip

> this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud

> again. Let me know something.

>                                         Darren

>

> Bledsoe wrote:

> You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

> (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

> does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Professor, EM

> GWUMC

>

>   _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Christy

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the

big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A

CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is

becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in

the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees

can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do

not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ----

!!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on.

There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and

applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned

out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS

totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be

losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we

serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The

total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From

The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of

it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us.....

> Will mail it. Kay

> Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick

time

>

>

> > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years

back

> > in one of my other incarnations.

> > I've held management positions in many different companies that

I've

> > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in

> > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee

> > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit

the

> > various divisions and find out what the differences were.

> > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace

it

> > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock

bottom.

> > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to

manage bu

> > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and

their

> > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the

tyranical " my way

> > or the hiway " . types.

> > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had

> > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for

them.

> > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager

that

> > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any

better he

> > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open,

he had

> > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees

that

> > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any

> > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure

polocies. His

> > employees felt like they were part of the company and the

processes

> > that made it work.

> > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with

Medstar.

> > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees,

I'd say

> > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to

read

> > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that

> > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused,

and

> > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm

bodies.

> > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they

should

> > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure

itself

> > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to

try to

> > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager.

> > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation

outfits.

> > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again

y'all.

> > JoeT.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the

big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A

CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is

becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in

the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees

can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do

not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ----

!!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on.

There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and

applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned

out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS

totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be

losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we

serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The

total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From

The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of

it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us.....

> Will mail it. Kay

> Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick

time

>

>

> > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years

back

> > in one of my other incarnations.

> > I've held management positions in many different companies that

I've

> > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in

> > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee

> > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit

the

> > various divisions and find out what the differences were.

> > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace

it

> > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock

bottom.

> > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to

manage bu

> > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and

their

> > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the

tyranical " my way

> > or the hiway " . types.

> > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had

> > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for

them.

> > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager

that

> > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any

better he

> > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open,

he had

> > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees

that

> > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any

> > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure

polocies. His

> > employees felt like they were part of the company and the

processes

> > that made it work.

> > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with

Medstar.

> > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees,

I'd say

> > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to

read

> > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that

> > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused,

and

> > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm

bodies.

> > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they

should

> > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure

itself

> > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to

try to

> > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager.

> > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation

outfits.

> > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again

y'all.

> > JoeT.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the

big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A

CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is

becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in

the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees

can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do

not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ----

!!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on.

There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and

applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned

out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS

totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be

losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we

serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The

total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From

The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of

it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us.....

> Will mail it. Kay

> Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick

time

>

>

> > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years

back

> > in one of my other incarnations.

> > I've held management positions in many different companies that

I've

> > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in

> > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee

> > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit

the

> > various divisions and find out what the differences were.

> > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace

it

> > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock

bottom.

> > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to

manage bu

> > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and

their

> > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the

tyranical " my way

> > or the hiway " . types.

> > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had

> > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for

them.

> > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager

that

> > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any

better he

> > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open,

he had

> > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees

that

> > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any

> > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure

polocies. His

> > employees felt like they were part of the company and the

processes

> > that made it work.

> > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with

Medstar.

> > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees,

I'd say

> > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to

read

> > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that

> > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused,

and

> > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm

bodies.

> > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they

should

> > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure

itself

> > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to

try to

> > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager.

> > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation

outfits.

> > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again

y'all.

> > JoeT.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Over the years I've seen too many people leave EMS because they feel they are on

a sinking ship. Even though most of my EMS aspects are only on a part-time

basis, after 21 years, I still get that type of feedback from crews, almost in

every type of EMS venue. Most managers in EMS are survivors, that is, they are

in management just because they have been there the longest. Contrived

learning experiences in an organized field of study are very important, but are

overlooked by most people who hire EMS managers.

" Buck it up, or leave " , is usually the morale and mission slogan from most EMS

managers. This must change.

1. If you are an EMS manager, get experience in good patient care, know the

business, get a degree in management, and work with a mentor who is a shining

example for a couple of years.

2. If you are an employee expect that your manger has the above requirements.

-MH

>>> wegandy1938@... 10/03/05 8:56 PM >>>

Is it time for a union at MedStar?

Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the

pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union

works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you.

I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's

going on, that's something that the troops might look into.

Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not

the union has benefited them or not.

It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present

management, so what's there to lose?

Gene G.

> I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the

> employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot

let

> this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med

> Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that

> comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that

> families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient,

being

> in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip

> this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud

> again. Let me know something.

> Darren

>

> Bledsoe wrote:

> You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

> (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

> does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Professor, EM

> GWUMC

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Christy

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope).

Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can

still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all!

HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on

Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!!

Nick

Darren Pieren wrote:

I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's.

We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this

happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not

only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to

thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families

grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top

notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the

butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me

know something.

Darren

Bledsoe wrote:

You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

(EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Professor, EM

GWUMC

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Christy

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

To:

Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Too often, we think that those who are competent medics will be competent

managers. It may be possible to be both, but it's not a given.

I've seen a lot of EMS folks go back for a degree in EMS, but how many have

degrees in management or public administration?

-Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT

Austin, Texas

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-- " Hudson " wrote:

" Buck it up, or leave " , is usually the morale and mission slogan from most EMS

managers.

An alternative motto is " The floggings will continue until morale improves " .

Kinda sounds like the approach that Medstar has taken.

" Service is love made visible. Friendship is love made personal. Kindness is

love made tangible. Giving is love made believable " - Anonymous

Larry in Houston

[Guest guest]

Darren & Nick,

If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some

help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling

someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the

Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the

steps you will need to take to organize.

Tater

Nick Diemicke wrote:

Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope).

Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can

still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all!

HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on

Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!!

Nick

Darren Pieren wrote:

I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's.

We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this

happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not

only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to

thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families

grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top

notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the

butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me

know something.

Darren

Bledsoe wrote:

You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

(EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Professor, EM

GWUMC

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Christy

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

To:

Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Don't stop there! Ask the employees who already work for MEDSTAR that were

a part of the Arlington/Grand Prairie union with RM how NOT to do it. That

union did NOTHING for the employees.

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Re unions: If you decide to try and unionize, take it from one who

practiced labor law for a few years. Expect the company to pull every dirty,

filthy,

sleazy, lowdown, coercive, intimidating trick that they think they can get

away with and some that they know they won't get away with. They'll play the

odds that they'll win and beat you to death. I know because I was practicing

on the side of business then.

They will target the " ringleaders " and try to get rid of them and to punish

everyone who leans toward the union. They will do everything that their

lawyers tell them they can get away with under the unfair labor practices laws

and

then some. They will stretch the law to the limits and beyond.

They will use every unscrupulous tactic known to man, and there are books

written on how companies can fight unionization. Get those books and read them

so you'll recognize their tactics for what they are. They will plant spies

within your organization who will report to them everything you do, everybody

who attends a meeting, and so forth. Expect them to hire private

investigators to take down license plates of every car at the meetings, to look

through

your personal trash and try to get something on you. Shred everything that can

be shredded. Expect to be followed and filmed doing organizational stuff.

Expect to have your neighbors questioned about you by folks who lead them to

believe that they're law enforcement. Expect them to search your credit

records, check on any arrests or convictions you've ever had, find out about

your

divorce and child custody case, and so forth. Expect them to question every

request of for sick leave and/or injury leave. Expect to be screwed with in

every way they and their lawyers can think of.

You'll need to be with a union that is lean, mean, and willing to file unfair

labor practice charges against the company every single time they violate the

law. The Teamsters used to be the one, but I don't know which one is good

now.

Be very careful who you go with. Ask them if they will back the proponents

by filing suits in court to back the employees who attempt to organize, file

unfair labor practice charges, use the media to expose the tactics of the

company, and spend the money necessary to get recognized. Will they

investigate

the managers and try to get the same kind of stuff on them they're trying to

get on you? How much money are they willing to spend to get this contract?

Every single illegal move by the company must be met with an immediate

federal lawsuit. Seek injunctive relief early to enjoin the company from

committing unfair labor practices, and use every single legal means to fight the

company, but DO NOT step over the line. Let them be the bad guys.

Be ready for a fight to the finish and to lose friends, have relationships

with managers that have been good go to hell, and either go into it to win or

forgeddaboudit.

Be prepared to lose your job.

When I was practicing labor law, I had the windows shot out of my car while I

was driving it. An attempt on my life or intimidation? I didn't wait

around to see. Passions rage in labor/management battles. Be ready for it.

Management will view it as " it's us against them and we're going to win. " You

must have the same philosophy. Management will see you as troublemakers,

threats to its survival and existence, evil weevils boring into the foundations

of the service and bound to destroy it and them with it. You'll see

management as the most evil, wicked, sorry, lowdown, dregs of humanity that

nature has

ever produced. There will be scars that never heal.

If you win, and you have a good organization, you'll make some headway. But

if you lose, you're screwed. The stakes are high. Be sure you know what

you're doing. If you win, you'll have a different relationship with

management than you had before. They'll still hate you, but they'll have to

play by

the rules.

If you win, that's only the first part of the battle. The real battle will

be getting a contract. The secret is to have a union that knows the EMS

field and how to write a contract that is relevant to EMS. That ought to be

your

first question to a union representative. " What do you know about EMS? W

ho do you represent? Let's see some of your contracts with EMS agencies. "

Your contract will be the thing that makes your worklife better. It will be

the document that determines how the company can treat sick days. It will

be the document that dictates the steps that must be followed in employee

discipline. It will be the document that decides about your pay, vacation

days,

personal days, sick leave, and every other aspect of your work rules. Unless

you end up with a good contract, all the above will have been a waste of time.

Ironically, many businesses finally come around to understanding the

union's role in their lives and actually seek good labor relations. Then you

have

to make sure that your union reps don't sell you out and down the river.

Watch two movies before you decide to do this: Hoffa, and Norma Rae.

Good luck whatever happens.

Gene G.

> Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few

> years ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they

> contacted a lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are

quite

> the political force now.

> Ken

>

> " E. Tate " wrote:

> Darren & Nick,

>

> If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get

> some help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest

> calling someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or

possibly

> with the Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions

> about the steps you will need to take to organize.

>

>

> Tater

>

>

> Nick Diemicke wrote:

> Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope).

> Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we

> can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all!

>

> HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one

> on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their

> scapegoats!!

>

> Nick

>

>

> Darren Pieren wrote:

> I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the

> employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot

let

> this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med

Star.

> Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that

> comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that

families

> grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in

> top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this

> in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud

> again. Let me know something.

> Darren

>

> Bledsoe wrote:

> You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

> (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

> does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

>

> Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

> Professor, EM

> GWUMC

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

> Behalf Of Christy

> Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few years

ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they contacted a

lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are quite the

political force now.

Ken

" E. Tate " wrote:

Darren & Nick,

If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some

help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling

someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the

Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the

steps you will need to take to organize.

Tater

Nick Diemicke wrote:

Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope).

Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can

still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all!

HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on

Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!!

Nick

Darren Pieren wrote:

I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's.

We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this

happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not

only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to

thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families

grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top

notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the

butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me

know something.

Darren

Bledsoe wrote:

You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

(EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Professor, EM

GWUMC

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Christy

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

To:

Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Ha ha ha ha! I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one

about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has

risen

to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager.

First, the hint that what you're doing by attempting to unionize is not a

good thing, then the veiled threat. A warning to the wise! " There is plenty

to lose... " Meaning, you pursue this union thing and you're going to lose

your job. Of course he doesn't outright SAY that, but the threat is there.

Dudley, what is there to lose? Please enlighten the populace. You make

a veiled suggestion that things will somehow be worse if the troops unionize.

Well, out with it, man! What is there to lose. Tell them what they'll

lose if they unionize.

" Carefully weigh what you're asking for. " The hint that joining the union

is not in your best interest but, of course, not letting you know what IS in

your best interest. Management will always say, " Sticking with us is in your

best interest. " But management has the right to screw you anyway they want to

if you're in a right to work state and don't have a contract. Who do you

trust? Do you trust your managers?

Again, a technique for intimidating the troops that managers use. They

never say what will happen to you, just that you're in jeopardy. It's a play

on

fear. It's a sleazy technique, but it works.

" You might just get it. " A threat that you'll be sorry for attempting to

unionize. And probably a violation of federal labor law, because it's an

intimidating statement, a threat for exercising your Constitutional Rights, and

a

promise of retribution. If the employees of a company begin to carry on

negotiations for representation by a union and management replies with the

statements that Dudley has just made, think unfair labor practice. Think

intimidation. Think retribution. File complaints with the labor department

as allowed

by the Fair Labor Standards Act. File a lawsuit in federal court to enjoin

management from using unfair labor practices against those who favor

unionization. Make management pay a price for refusing to deal with you as a

labor

organization. Power is the only thing that management understands.

Dudley, where did you learn to say things like that? At SunStar? Was

that AMR or who? That's the typical management reaction to an attempt to

unionize. Plant fear in the hearts of the troops, threaten them in vague ways,

and

imply that things will be worse if they win. You read the book on fighting

unionization, didn't you?

How would unionization hurt the employees of MedStar? How would it hurt

management? Could it possibly help?

Why should management oppose a union? Union is a buzzword that throws

managers into angina. But why should it? Why should management oppose a

system where the troops have a contract that sets forth the ways in which they

will

be treated, their rights to vacation, sick leave, and so forth?

That's what I want you to say Dudley. Why did you make the statements you

did, the intimidating statements?

If you're running a company that has the sort of employee relations that

MedStar seems to have, why wouldn't you want a union that you could deal with,

under a contract that set forth all the rules, and that would give you a way to

deal with employees that would help you resolve conflicts and improve the whole

system? If you're an exerienced manager who is used to working with unions,

you would welcome the union and its ability to take some of the heat off of

you for employee discipline. But if you're a redneck Texan and hate the very

idea of unions, then nothing short of force will compel you to do the right

thing.

Your thoughts?

Gene G.

> There is plenty to lose...carefully weigh what you are asking for...you

> just might get it.

>

> Dudley

>

> Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

> >

> >

> > I am a employee at Medstar.  What frustrates me is the fact that he

> > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care!  The

> > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> > simply put they are exhausted.  And then for all of us to be publicly

> > humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

> >

> > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> > one truck or have that truck in service.  This is where pt care comes

> > in to play.

> >

> > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)!  If there was a problem, which agreed

> > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> > deserve that.

> >

> > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> > make them work any harder is asinine!  I for one do not take sick

> > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> > time off!  Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> > people in need!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hey thanks Ken for the info. I think thursday sometime during or after the

meeting is when we pop the question to all. If they want to organize. I know a

couple of lawyers who associate with big business and will give them a call

later on down the road. This is something that just needs to be done if ever a

foolish stunt like the one in the recent past is ever pulled again, we can voice

our opposition and pull together and make it right. I just hope they, the

employee's will listen to reason and jump on board. How are you doing these

days? Havent seen you in some time.

Darren

Ken Musick wrote:

Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few years

ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they contacted a

lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are quite the

political force now.

Ken

" E. Tate " wrote:

Darren & Nick,

If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some

help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling

someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the

Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the

steps you will need to take to organize.

Tater

Nick Diemicke wrote:

Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope).

Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can

still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all!

HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on

Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!!

Nick

Darren Pieren wrote:

I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's.

We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this

happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not

only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to

thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families

grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top

notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the

butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me

know something.

Darren

Bledsoe wrote:

You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board

(EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet

does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me.

Bledsoe, DO, FACEP

Professor, EM

GWUMC

_____

From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Christy

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM

To:

Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the advice. What is the name of the union?

Darren

" A. " wrote:

Don't stop there! Ask the employees who already work for MEDSTAR that were

a part of the Arlington/Grand Prairie union with RM how NOT to do it. That

union did NOTHING for the employees.

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

There is plenty to lose...carefully weigh what you are asking for...you

just might get it.

Dudley

Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

>

>

> I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

> is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

> employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

> simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

> humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

>

> To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

> and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

> regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

> one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

> in to play.

>

> Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

> because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

> (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

> you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

> dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

> deserve that.

>

> For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

> make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

> time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

> time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

> Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

> who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

> people in need!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Gene,

How did you get all of that out of his post?

Ha ha ha ha! I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one

about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has

risen

to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager.

I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying to

get organized,

Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind you

all the way are

still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces

office and demand

that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes

person. As I

turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob

would listen to

my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before informing

me that once

again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have guessed I

was a slow

learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the message.

Of course Bob

could have fired me but he didn't.

My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads up

as to what he

might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance provider

can get on this

list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for them.

Guys if you go

fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are

there.

Henry

[Guest guest]

The local union for EMS in Arlington/Grand Prairie that was started in

the late 90's was the Professional EMT and Paramedic's (PEP). It was a

local to the International Boilermaker's Union (?) As was stated not

much was accomplished there. What it did do was make local management

sit up and take notice. Some preemptive empty promises were made to try

to keep the organization from happening. Once the site was organized

this specific union just seemed to be dead in the water.

Steve

LifeStar EMS/Rural Metro (FT/PT) '92-'01

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Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time

I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he

is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The

employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated,

simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly

humiliated by our own Exec. Director.

To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally,

and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes

regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down

one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes

in to play.

Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts

because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money

(BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed

you will have problem children in every company, it should have been

dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we

deserve that.

For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will

make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick

time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that

time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree.

Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people

who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of

people in need!

[Guest guest]

Henry tells it like it is.

GG

> Gene,

>

> How did you get all of that out of his post?

>

> Ha ha ha ha!   I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one

> about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has

> risen

> to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager.

>

> I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying

> to get organized,

> Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind

> you all the way are

> still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces

> office and demand

> that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes

> person. As I

> turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob

> would listen to

> my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before

> informing me that once

> again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have

> guessed I was a slow

> learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the

> message. Of course Bob

> could have fired me but he didn't.

>

> My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads

> up as to what he

> might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance

> provider can get on this

> list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for

> them. Guys if you go

> fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are

> there.

>

> Henry

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Henry tells it like it is.

GG

> Gene,

>

> How did you get all of that out of his post?

>

> Ha ha ha ha!   I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one

> about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has

> risen

> to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager.

>

> I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying

> to get organized,

> Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind

> you all the way are

> still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces

> office and demand

> that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes

> person. As I

> turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob

> would listen to

> my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before

> informing me that once

> again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have

> guessed I was a slow

> learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the

> message. Of course Bob

> could have fired me but he didn't.

>

> My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads

> up as to what he

> might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance

> provider can get on this

> list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for

> them. Guys if you go

> fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are

> there.

>

> Henry

>

>

>