Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me know something. Darren Bledsoe wrote: You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Professor, EM GWUMC _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Christy Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM To: Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Will mail it. Kay Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back > in one of my other incarnations. > I've held management positions in many different companies that I've > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the > various divisions and find out what the differences were. > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom. > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way > or the hiway " . types. > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them. > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His > employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes > that made it work. > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar. > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies. > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager. > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits. > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all. > JoeT. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Will mail it. Kay Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back > in one of my other incarnations. > I've held management positions in many different companies that I've > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the > various divisions and find out what the differences were. > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom. > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way > or the hiway " . types. > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them. > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His > employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes > that made it work. > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar. > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies. > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager. > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits. > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all. > JoeT. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Is it time for a union at MedStar? Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you. I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's going on, that's something that the troops might look into. Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not the union has benefited them or not. It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present management, so what's there to lose? Gene G. > I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the > employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let > this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med > Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that > comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that > families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient, being > in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip > this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud > again. Let me know something. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Darren > > Bledsoe wrote: > You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board > (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet > does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. > > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Professor, EM > GWUMC > > Â _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Christy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM > To: > Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Is it time for a union at MedStar? Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you. I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's going on, that's something that the troops might look into. Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not the union has benefited them or not. It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present management, so what's there to lose? Gene G. > I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the > employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let > this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med > Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that > comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that > families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient, being > in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip > this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud > again. Let me know something. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Darren > > Bledsoe wrote: > You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board > (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet > does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. > > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Professor, EM > GWUMC > > Â _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Christy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM > To: > Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Is it time for a union at MedStar? Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you. I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's going on, that's something that the troops might look into. Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not the union has benefited them or not. It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present management, so what's there to lose? Gene G. > I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the > employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let > this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med > Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that > comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that > families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient, being > in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip > this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud > again. Let me know something. > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Darren > > Bledsoe wrote: > You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board > (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet > does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. > > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Professor, EM > GWUMC > > Â _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Christy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM > To: > Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 -To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ---- !!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on. There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us..... > Will mail it. Kay > Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back > > in one of my other incarnations. > > I've held management positions in many different companies that I've > > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in > > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee > > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the > > various divisions and find out what the differences were. > > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it > > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom. > > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu > > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their > > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way > > or the hiway " . types. > > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had > > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them. > > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that > > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he > > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had > > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that > > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any > > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His > > employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes > > that made it work. > > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar. > > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say > > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read > > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that > > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and > > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies. > > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should > > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself > > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to > > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager. > > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits. > > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all. > > JoeT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 -To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ---- !!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on. There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us..... > Will mail it. Kay > Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back > > in one of my other incarnations. > > I've held management positions in many different companies that I've > > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in > > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee > > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the > > various divisions and find out what the differences were. > > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it > > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom. > > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu > > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their > > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way > > or the hiway " . types. > > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had > > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them. > > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that > > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he > > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had > > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that > > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any > > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His > > employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes > > that made it work. > > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar. > > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say > > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read > > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that > > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and > > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies. > > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should > > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself > > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to > > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager. > > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits. > > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all. > > JoeT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 -To whom it may concern: I am a MedStar Employee. Lets look at the big issue............ IN THE POSITION OF EX.DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE A CERTIFIED OR LICENSED PARAMEDIC WITH REAL WORLD EXPERENCE. It is becoming increasingly obvious that if a drastic change is not made in the next little while,THERE WILL NOT BE A Med Star!!!!!!The employees can not take anymore. We are totally exausted and over worked. We do not have enough trucks on the street due to the CONSULTANTS BULL ---- !!There are persons in positions that have no idea whats going on. There are quality medics that are looking for other positions and applying and gaining employment. There are medics that are so burned out due to the mismanagement of this operation they are leaving EMS totally. This is so outragously stupid that not only will Med Star be losing the experence,so will the population of the communities we serve.Ernie Rodreguez is the only reason Most people are staying. The total picture is the operation is in need of a total makeover. From The authority to clinical to operations to training to well,all of it.Please,if any board members are reading this,please help us..... > Will mail it. Kay > Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > > Thought I might just pop on with some incite I got several years back > > in one of my other incarnations. > > I've held management positions in many different companies that I've > > worked for. On company was a large corporation with divisions in > > several states. Some of the sections were having lots of absentee > > problems, and others very few. I was tasked at one point to visit the > > various divisions and find out what the differences were. > > In every instance of excessive absenteeism, I was able to trace it > > back to a managerial problem. Moral in those divisions was rock bottom. > > The managemers there had very poor people skills and tried to manage bu > > threats and intimidation. Employee stress levels were high and their > > company loyalty was zero. These managers were all the tyranical " my way > > or the hiway " . types. > > On the other end, the divisions with the least absenteeism had > > managers that were felt by the employees to actually care for them. > > These people actually enjoyed coming to work. We had one manager that > > was so good, according to his employees, that if he were any better he > > would have been able to walk on water. His door was always open, he had > > time to answer questions, he was willing to help his employees that > > were having problems with a task, and he took time to explain any > > chages in the whys and wherefors of policy and proceedure polocies. His > > employees felt like they were part of the company and the processes > > that made it work. > > Having rambled through all this, we come to the problem with Medstar. > > From what we've seen and what's been said by Medstar employees, I'd say > > their moral is getting close to the bottom. Since they had to read > > about the problem and solution in the paper, I'd venture that > > comminication is about zero. The employees feel used and abused, and > > definitely do not feel they are part of equation except as warm bodies. > > If Medstar really wants to cure their absentee problems, they should > > fix their managerial problems. The absentee problem would cure itself > > then. Any time you have to fall to intimidation and threats to try to > > fix a problem, you have failed miserablly as a manager. > > Dang, maybe I should get a job with one of them consultation outfits. > > Just my 2 cents on the subject. Thanks for listening again y'all. > > JoeT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Over the years I've seen too many people leave EMS because they feel they are on a sinking ship. Even though most of my EMS aspects are only on a part-time basis, after 21 years, I still get that type of feedback from crews, almost in every type of EMS venue. Most managers in EMS are survivors, that is, they are in management just because they have been there the longest. Contrived learning experiences in an organized field of study are very important, but are overlooked by most people who hire EMS managers. " Buck it up, or leave " , is usually the morale and mission slogan from most EMS managers. This must change. 1. If you are an EMS manager, get experience in good patient care, know the business, get a degree in management, and work with a mentor who is a shining example for a couple of years. 2. If you are an employee expect that your manger has the above requirements. -MH >>> wegandy1938@... 10/03/05 8:56 PM >>> Is it time for a union at MedStar? Every employee ought to think carefully about that and investigate what the pros and cons are. Talk to the firefighters and ask them how their union works. Talk to several union representatives and see what they tell you. I'm not advocating a union, just saying that with all the trouble that's going on, that's something that the troops might look into. Perhaps some of the firefighters on here could comment about whether or not the union has benefited them or not. It doesn't seem that the employees are getting anywhere with present management, so what's there to lose? Gene G. > I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the > employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let > this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med > Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that > comes to their aide because they might have been playing sick when that > families grandmother died, but for the very safety of that crew and patient, being > in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip > this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud > again. Let me know something. > Darren > > Bledsoe wrote: > You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board > (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet > does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. > > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Professor, EM > GWUMC > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Christy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM > To: > Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope). Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all! HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!! Nick Darren Pieren wrote: I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me know something. Darren Bledsoe wrote: You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Professor, EM GWUMC _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Christy Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM To: Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Too often, we think that those who are competent medics will be competent managers. It may be possible to be both, but it's not a given. I've seen a lot of EMS folks go back for a degree in EMS, but how many have degrees in management or public administration? -Wes Ogilvie, MPA, JD, EMT Austin, Texas Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 -- " Hudson " wrote: " Buck it up, or leave " , is usually the morale and mission slogan from most EMS managers. An alternative motto is " The floggings will continue until morale improves " . Kinda sounds like the approach that Medstar has taken. " Service is love made visible. Friendship is love made personal. Kindness is love made tangible. Giving is love made believable " - Anonymous Larry in Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Darren & Nick, If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the steps you will need to take to organize. Tater Nick Diemicke wrote: Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope). Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all! HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!! Nick Darren Pieren wrote: I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me know something. Darren Bledsoe wrote: You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Professor, EM GWUMC _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Christy Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM To: Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Don't stop there! Ask the employees who already work for MEDSTAR that were a part of the Arlington/Grand Prairie union with RM how NOT to do it. That union did NOTHING for the employees. Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Re unions: If you decide to try and unionize, take it from one who practiced labor law for a few years. Expect the company to pull every dirty, filthy, sleazy, lowdown, coercive, intimidating trick that they think they can get away with and some that they know they won't get away with. They'll play the odds that they'll win and beat you to death. I know because I was practicing on the side of business then. They will target the " ringleaders " and try to get rid of them and to punish everyone who leans toward the union. They will do everything that their lawyers tell them they can get away with under the unfair labor practices laws and then some. They will stretch the law to the limits and beyond. They will use every unscrupulous tactic known to man, and there are books written on how companies can fight unionization. Get those books and read them so you'll recognize their tactics for what they are. They will plant spies within your organization who will report to them everything you do, everybody who attends a meeting, and so forth. Expect them to hire private investigators to take down license plates of every car at the meetings, to look through your personal trash and try to get something on you. Shred everything that can be shredded. Expect to be followed and filmed doing organizational stuff. Expect to have your neighbors questioned about you by folks who lead them to believe that they're law enforcement. Expect them to search your credit records, check on any arrests or convictions you've ever had, find out about your divorce and child custody case, and so forth. Expect them to question every request of for sick leave and/or injury leave. Expect to be screwed with in every way they and their lawyers can think of. You'll need to be with a union that is lean, mean, and willing to file unfair labor practice charges against the company every single time they violate the law. The Teamsters used to be the one, but I don't know which one is good now. Be very careful who you go with. Ask them if they will back the proponents by filing suits in court to back the employees who attempt to organize, file unfair labor practice charges, use the media to expose the tactics of the company, and spend the money necessary to get recognized. Will they investigate the managers and try to get the same kind of stuff on them they're trying to get on you? How much money are they willing to spend to get this contract? Every single illegal move by the company must be met with an immediate federal lawsuit. Seek injunctive relief early to enjoin the company from committing unfair labor practices, and use every single legal means to fight the company, but DO NOT step over the line. Let them be the bad guys. Be ready for a fight to the finish and to lose friends, have relationships with managers that have been good go to hell, and either go into it to win or forgeddaboudit. Be prepared to lose your job. When I was practicing labor law, I had the windows shot out of my car while I was driving it. An attempt on my life or intimidation? I didn't wait around to see. Passions rage in labor/management battles. Be ready for it. Management will view it as " it's us against them and we're going to win. " You must have the same philosophy. Management will see you as troublemakers, threats to its survival and existence, evil weevils boring into the foundations of the service and bound to destroy it and them with it. You'll see management as the most evil, wicked, sorry, lowdown, dregs of humanity that nature has ever produced. There will be scars that never heal. If you win, and you have a good organization, you'll make some headway. But if you lose, you're screwed. The stakes are high. Be sure you know what you're doing. If you win, you'll have a different relationship with management than you had before. They'll still hate you, but they'll have to play by the rules. If you win, that's only the first part of the battle. The real battle will be getting a contract. The secret is to have a union that knows the EMS field and how to write a contract that is relevant to EMS. That ought to be your first question to a union representative. " What do you know about EMS? W ho do you represent? Let's see some of your contracts with EMS agencies. " Your contract will be the thing that makes your worklife better. It will be the document that determines how the company can treat sick days. It will be the document that dictates the steps that must be followed in employee discipline. It will be the document that decides about your pay, vacation days, personal days, sick leave, and every other aspect of your work rules. Unless you end up with a good contract, all the above will have been a waste of time. Ironically, many businesses finally come around to understanding the union's role in their lives and actually seek good labor relations. Then you have to make sure that your union reps don't sell you out and down the river. Watch two movies before you decide to do this: Hoffa, and Norma Rae. Good luck whatever happens. Gene G. > Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few > years ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they > contacted a lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are quite > the political force now. > Ken > > " E. Tate " wrote: > Darren & Nick, > > If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get > some help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest > calling someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly > with the Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions > about the steps you will need to take to organize. > > > Tater > > > Nick Diemicke wrote: > Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope). > Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we > can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all! > > HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one > on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their > scapegoats!! > > Nick > > > Darren Pieren wrote: > I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the > employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let > this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. > Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that > comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families > grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in > top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this > in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud > again. Let me know something. > Darren > > Bledsoe wrote: > You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board > (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet > does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. > > Bledsoe, DO, FACEP > Professor, EM > GWUMC > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Christy > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM > To: > Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few years ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they contacted a lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are quite the political force now. Ken " E. Tate " wrote: Darren & Nick, If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the steps you will need to take to organize. Tater Nick Diemicke wrote: Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope). Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all! HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!! Nick Darren Pieren wrote: I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me know something. Darren Bledsoe wrote: You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Professor, EM GWUMC _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Christy Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM To: Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Ha ha ha ha! I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has risen to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager. First, the hint that what you're doing by attempting to unionize is not a good thing, then the veiled threat. A warning to the wise! " There is plenty to lose... " Meaning, you pursue this union thing and you're going to lose your job. Of course he doesn't outright SAY that, but the threat is there. Dudley, what is there to lose? Please enlighten the populace. You make a veiled suggestion that things will somehow be worse if the troops unionize. Well, out with it, man! What is there to lose. Tell them what they'll lose if they unionize. " Carefully weigh what you're asking for. " The hint that joining the union is not in your best interest but, of course, not letting you know what IS in your best interest. Management will always say, " Sticking with us is in your best interest. " But management has the right to screw you anyway they want to if you're in a right to work state and don't have a contract. Who do you trust? Do you trust your managers? Again, a technique for intimidating the troops that managers use. They never say what will happen to you, just that you're in jeopardy. It's a play on fear. It's a sleazy technique, but it works. " You might just get it. " A threat that you'll be sorry for attempting to unionize. And probably a violation of federal labor law, because it's an intimidating statement, a threat for exercising your Constitutional Rights, and a promise of retribution. If the employees of a company begin to carry on negotiations for representation by a union and management replies with the statements that Dudley has just made, think unfair labor practice. Think intimidation. Think retribution. File complaints with the labor department as allowed by the Fair Labor Standards Act. File a lawsuit in federal court to enjoin management from using unfair labor practices against those who favor unionization. Make management pay a price for refusing to deal with you as a labor organization. Power is the only thing that management understands. Dudley, where did you learn to say things like that? At SunStar? Was that AMR or who? That's the typical management reaction to an attempt to unionize. Plant fear in the hearts of the troops, threaten them in vague ways, and imply that things will be worse if they win. You read the book on fighting unionization, didn't you? How would unionization hurt the employees of MedStar? How would it hurt management? Could it possibly help? Why should management oppose a union? Union is a buzzword that throws managers into angina. But why should it? Why should management oppose a system where the troops have a contract that sets forth the ways in which they will be treated, their rights to vacation, sick leave, and so forth? That's what I want you to say Dudley. Why did you make the statements you did, the intimidating statements? If you're running a company that has the sort of employee relations that MedStar seems to have, why wouldn't you want a union that you could deal with, under a contract that set forth all the rules, and that would give you a way to deal with employees that would help you resolve conflicts and improve the whole system? If you're an exerienced manager who is used to working with unions, you would welcome the union and its ability to take some of the heat off of you for employee discipline. But if you're a redneck Texan and hate the very idea of unions, then nothing short of force will compel you to do the right thing. Your thoughts? Gene G. > There is plenty to lose...carefully weigh what you are asking for...you > just might get it. > > Dudley > > Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > > in to play. > > > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > > deserve that. > > > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Hey thanks Ken for the info. I think thursday sometime during or after the meeting is when we pop the question to all. If they want to organize. I know a couple of lawyers who associate with big business and will give them a call later on down the road. This is something that just needs to be done if ever a foolish stunt like the one in the recent past is ever pulled again, we can voice our opposition and pull together and make it right. I just hope they, the employee's will listen to reason and jump on board. How are you doing these days? Havent seen you in some time. Darren Ken Musick wrote: Talk to someone from the Denton Co Sheriffs Dept. They organzied a few years ago. They started by meeting secretly in fields then I believe they contacted a lawyer who helped them organize. From what I understand, they are quite the political force now. Ken " E. Tate " wrote: Darren & Nick, If you are thinking about forming an association or a union, you MUST get some help from someone that is familiar with these things. I would suggest calling someone with the leadership of one of the local fire unions or possibly with the Texas State Association of Firefighters. They will answer questions about the steps you will need to take to organize. Tater Nick Diemicke wrote: Amen Darren! This weeks meetings will sure start that ball rolling (I hope). Even tho our buddy Jack is on a nice little vacation for another week; we can still show mgt how this insult has outraged us all! HOPE ALL SHOW TO EITHER THE 0900 meeting on thursday 10/06 or the 1800 one on Firday 10/07!! Lets show mgt the troops are tired of being their scapegoats!! Nick Darren Pieren wrote: I think what needs to be done at the Star is an association of the employee's. We need to get together and discuss options vital to us. We cannot let this happen again for the sake of any and all who come in contact with Med Star. Not only do the people in our service area think twice about a crew that comes to thier aide because they might have been playing sick when that families grandmother died, but for the very saftey of that crew and patient, being in top notch form and condition. Overall, we need to come together and nip this in the butt because I will be dammed if my name is drug through the mud again. Let me know something. Darren Bledsoe wrote: You must also point the finger at the Emergency Physicians Advisory Board (EPAB) which has the power (politically) to demand better patient care yet does not. My elderly parents live in Fort Worth so it does matter to me. Bledsoe, DO, FACEP Professor, EM GWUMC _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Christy Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 9:45 PM To: Subject: Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 Thanks for the advice. What is the name of the union? Darren " A. " wrote: Don't stop there! Ask the employees who already work for MEDSTAR that were a part of the Arlington/Grand Prairie union with RM how NOT to do it. That union did NOTHING for the employees. Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2005 Report Share Posted October 4, 2005 There is plenty to lose...carefully weigh what you are asking for...you just might get it. Dudley Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time > > > I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he > is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The > employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, > simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly > humiliated by our own Exec. Director. > > To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, > and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes > regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down > one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes > in to play. > > Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts > because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money > (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed > you will have problem children in every company, it should have been > dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we > deserve that. > > For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will > make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick > time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that > time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. > Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people > who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of > people in need! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Gene, How did you get all of that out of his post? Ha ha ha ha! I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has risen to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager. I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying to get organized, Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind you all the way are still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces office and demand that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes person. As I turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob would listen to my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before informing me that once again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have guessed I was a slow learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the message. Of course Bob could have fired me but he didn't. My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads up as to what he might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance provider can get on this list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for them. Guys if you go fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are there. Henry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 The local union for EMS in Arlington/Grand Prairie that was started in the late 90's was the Professional EMT and Paramedic's (PEP). It was a local to the International Boilermaker's Union (?) As was stated not much was accomplished there. What it did do was make local management sit up and take notice. Some preemptive empty promises were made to try to keep the organization from happening. Once the site was organized this specific union just seemed to be dead in the water. Steve LifeStar EMS/Rural Metro (FT/PT) '92-'01 This e-mail is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual (s) to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of The City of Azle or its policies. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please phone Steve Lemming (817)444-7108. Please also destroy and delete the message from your computer. For more information on The City of Azle, visit our web site at: <http://azle.govoffice.com/ <http://azle.govoffice.com/> > Re: MedStar answer times suffer due to sick time I am a employee at Medstar. What frustrates me is the fact that he is more concerned with the bottom line than with patient care! The employees at Medstar are overworked, underpaid, under appreciated, simply put they are exhausted. And then for all of us to be publicly humiliated by our own Exec. Director. To me having an ambulance where the crew is mentally, emotionally, and phsycally exhausted and is more inclined to make mistakes regarding pt care and poor bedside mannor, is it better to be down one truck or have that truck in service. This is where pt care comes in to play. Another thing that gets me, these people here bust their butts because of their love for the job (HELPING PEOPLE) not for the money (BELIEVE ME NOT FOR THE MONEY)! If there was a problem, which agreed you will have problem children in every company, it should have been dealt with professionally and internally, at the very least we deserve that. For this person to think that PUBLICLY DEGRADING your employees will make them work any harder is asinine! I for one do not take sick time unless I am in fact sick, I work hard and deserve to take that time off! Which most if not all of my fellow employees would agree. Simply put this is nothing more than a slap in the face for people who work hard for their company and invest their time to take care of people in need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Henry tells it like it is. GG > Gene, > > How did you get all of that out of his post? > > Ha ha ha ha!  I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one > about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has > risen > to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager. > > I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying > to get organized, > Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind > you all the way are > still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces > office and demand > that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes > person. As I > turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob > would listen to > my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before > informing me that once > again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have > guessed I was a slow > learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the > message. Of course Bob > could have fired me but he didn't. > > My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads > up as to what he > might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance > provider can get on this > list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for > them. Guys if you go > fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are > there. > > Henry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Henry tells it like it is. GG > Gene, > > How did you get all of that out of his post? > > Ha ha ha ha!  I hadn't even read Dudley's post when I wrote my last one > about what you do if you decide to seek union representation, and DUDLEY has > risen > to the occasion to step right into the character of the manager. > > I would suggest this: When and if you decide to follow through with trying > to get organized, > Keep Looking Behind You Frequently to see if those that say we are behind > you all the way are > still there. When I was younger and dumber, I would march into Bob Koonces > office and demand > that he change all the wrongs with the department. I was the elected spokes > person. As I > turned to look for my support, they were no where to be found. Of course Bob > would listen to > my bluster and then throw me out of the office. He did so not before > informing me that once > again the rest of the guys had screwed me once again. As you may have > guessed I was a slow > learner and it took more than a few of these meetings before I got the > message. Of course Bob > could have fired me but he didn't. > > My point is that maybe Dudley was just trying to give the guy a little heads > up as to what he > might expect. It amazes me that employees of the mentioned ambulance > provider can get on this > list and obviously feel that the list serves as some sort of shield for > them. Guys if you go > fishing you don't beat on the side of the boat to let the fish know you are > there. > > Henry > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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