Re: Hi all. New here. And I too am an A Fibber

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In a message dated 2/21/2004 9:20:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, tman58@...

writes:

<< A friend of mine said something about the vegar nerve (not sure of

the spelling). He said something about if he ate alot then the

stomach would push againt the nerve and trigger a brief episode of

it. Well i experience it after eating too. >>

Tony,

That is the vagus nerve, and the kind of afib caused by vasovagal stimulation

of the vagus nerve is called vagal afib. If you experience afib in

connection with eating, you may have vagal afib. You might try eating earlier

in the

evening if you notice frequent problems with arrhythmia before going to sleep,

during the night, or upon waking. I have found that I must eat by 4 or 5 p.m.

if I want to avoid ectopic beats and afib. You also might try paying

attention to what you ate or drank before afib episodes. Different foods can be

afib

triggers in different people, so we each have to discover our own. If a

certain food seems to frequently be connected with your afib episodes, you might

try eliminating that food from your diet. For example, since I eliminated

dairy products from my diet two and a half years ago, my afib has become

relatively rare. Also, caffeine in any form and alcohol are common triggers.

Each

person has to discover his or her own triggers, but I am confident because of my

experience that some people can eliminate or vastly reduce afib episodes by

changing diet and lifestyle. Good luck.

in sinus in Seattle

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> Glad I found you. Gosh there are alot of posts to read. But I'm

> reading when I can.

Hi Tony, You'll find a lot of information and support here - that's

for sure.

> amino acid - arginine (relaxes vessels,allows more blood flow)

> amino acid - carnitine (increases energy to the heart)

> CoEnzyme Q10

> Magnesium

> Omega 3 (> Vitamin C (i take lots of it twice a day)

> Lysine (this with Vitamin C is suppose to be good for your

arteries)

> Multivitamin

> B Complex

Supplements are great. I take many of the above supplements myself.

(I also take Folic Acid, 3.2 mg per day. It's a great (and

inexpensive) way to lower homocysteine levels.)Unfortunately, there

have been no scientific studies (that I know of) that can claim that

any of these supplements can restore or maintain normal sinus rhythm

for those of us who suffer with arrythmias. Maybe, someday...?

> Good luck to us all on figuring this thing out.

A very good cardiologist in NY once told me that afib is sort of

like the Holy Grail of arrhythmias and whoever figures out what

causes it and how to stop it will probably end up on a plane heading

to Sweden...

I'll buy the ticket.

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> Supplements are great. I take many of the above supplements myself.

> (I also take Folic Acid, 3.2 mg per day. It's a great (and

> inexpensive) way to lower homocysteine levels.)Unfortunately, there

> have been no scientific studies (that I know of) that can claim

that

> any of these supplements can restore or maintain normal sinus

rhythm

> for those of us who suffer with arrythmias. Maybe, someday...?

>

> > Good luck to us all on figuring this thing out.

>

> A very good cardiologist in NY once told me that afib is sort of

> like the Holy Grail of arrhythmias and whoever figures out what

> causes it and how to stop it will probably end up on a plane

heading

> to Sweden...

>

> I'll buy the ticket.

>

>

Thanks . Yes, Folic Acid is another good one for the heart. I

guess that's what i am tryin to do right now. Investigate nutritional

supplements that help the heart. Studies have shown that certain

supplements, or combination of supplements improve heart health and

even inprove the AF condition.

I am taking a little cocktail of supplements, giving more attention

to my diet, losing weight, trying to excercise a when i can. I will

add to, or subtract from my cocktail as I learn more. I was having

short Fibs almost everyday for awhile, until I started doing all the

above. I started this new way of life about 2 months ago. The

recurring AF have really improved. It could be just from taking

additional Magnesium, or the combination of supplements, or just the

fact that losing weight is easier on my system. I don't know but, I

think i will continue what i am doing until i learn something

different. Thanks for your reply. tony

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> In a message dated 2/21/2004 9:20:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,

tman58@m...

> writes:

>

> << A friend of mine said something about the vegar nerve (not sure

of

> the spelling). He said something about if he ate alot then the

> stomach would push againt the nerve and trigger a brief episode of

> it. Well i experience it after eating too. >>

> Tony,

> That is the vagus nerve, and the kind of afib caused by vasovagal

stimulation

> of the vagus nerve is called vagal afib. If you experience afib in

> connection with eating, you may have vagal afib. You might try

eating earlier in the

> evening if you notice frequent problems with arrhythmia before

going to sleep,

> during the night, or upon waking. I have found that I must eat by

4 or 5 p.m.

> if I want to avoid ectopic beats and afib. You also might try

paying

> attention to what you ate or drank before afib episodes. Different

foods can be afib

> triggers in different people, so we each have to discover our own.

If a

> certain food seems to frequently be connected with your afib

episodes, you might

> try eliminating that food from your diet. For example, since I

eliminated

> dairy products from my diet two and a half years ago, my afib has

become

> relatively rare. Also, caffeine in any form and alcohol are common

triggers. Each

> person has to discover his or her own triggers, but I am confident

because of my

> experience that some people can eliminate or vastly reduce afib

episodes by

> changing diet and lifestyle. Good luck.

> in sinus in Seattle

Hi, . Thank you for posting. Your info is helpful and falls in

line with what i was thinking. I was diagnosed with Atrial

Fibrilation. I've been eating dinner much earlier these days, between

5 and 7pm. It's so hard to keep up with what you've eat'in during the

day. I am eating more healthy foods and I also quit dairy.

Ya know... is'nt it the strangest thing how alot of us have

experienced this episode as we lay down in the evening for rest. And

yes i think eating earlier in the evening has vastly improve this

incident in the evening. Jokingly: When the doctor asks us to do a

stress test for him/or her, we ought to tell the doc to buy me dinner

and let me lay down on your little bed here and you'll get all the

heart action you could dream of. thanks again, tony.

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> Tony, the thing that I would be sure to add to what you are taking

is the blood thinner. It will do nothing to cure the AFib. But it

might save your life. When you're in AFib (and sometime you can be

and not even feel it), not all of the blood always gets out of the

atrial chamber on each heartbeat. The blood left behind can form a

clot. If the clot goes out, it can cause a stroke or a heart

attack. This is the biggest danger of AFib. AFib can't kill you,

but it raises the probability of a stroke without blood

thinners...and the strokes can kill. The blood thinner reduces the

ability of the blood to clot. That can cause inconvenience -- and

even the use of an electric razor :-) -- but it's more than worth it.

>

> I'm not a doctor, but I'll bet that if you talk to your doctor,

he'll feel very strongly about this.

>

> Bill Manson

>

> " Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket? " --

Bumper sticker

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Thanks Bill. Yes Bill this can be a scary thing. When i had my last

two AFs I was'nt sure if my heart was just come to a stop and if I

made it through this, I was concerned about the possibility of blood

clots as well. Right now i am taking Flaxseed oil with cottage

cheese. It has many benifits and one of them is that the omega3 in it

helps thin the blood. Thanks again for your post.

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