Guest guest Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 My surgeon told me to stop doing the leg lifts and heel slides given to me by my PT because they are stressful on the Illiopsoas Tendon. I stopped trying them. Now at 16 weeks I can lift my leg practically any direction I want and have a nice range of heel to bottom action:-) Hope this helps alyce LC2K - Wm Kennedy - 5/23/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 They told me in the hospital not to do straight leg lifts... wasn't sure for how long so I e-mailed my OS and was told to wait until 6th week to do this... Rich ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Reply-To: surfacehippy Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:22:32 -0000 ><html><body> > > ><tt> ><BR> >> Hi Everyone<BR> >> <BR> >> I've noticed people's postings about being able to 'lift their leg <BR> >off of the <BR> >> bed'. I presume this means, laying on their back and lifting their <BR> >leg <BR> >> straight up, held straight out in front of them.<BR> >> <BR> >> My PT is possibly a little different to most other peoples and I <BR> >was actually <BR> >> trying to do this (before I realised my physio said not to!!!) Is <BR> >this <BR> >> something you have been told to do by your <BR> >surgeons/physiotherapists?<BR> >> <BR> >> Just curious :-)<BR> >> <BR> >> Love Lucy<BR> >> Bilateral Hip Resurfacing Mr Treacy 20.08.03<BR> ><BR> >No, it's definitely not something I was told to do, but in the normal <BR> >movements of everyday life, like trying to get onto a bed or couch or <BR> >wherever, it just happens. I had to use a big pillow on the foot <BR> >part of my recliner, because it's not quite long enough to support <BR> >enough of my leg for comfort, and just getting the leg to swing on <BR> >top of the pillow was enough of that particular movement. My doctor <BR> >(Gross) doesn't believe in any formal PT at all - he gave me 4 simple <BR> >exercises (heel pumps, butt scrunches and two others that are harder <BR> >to describe) and that was it. But the difference is that the <BR> >exercises he gave me are to be repeated with greater and greater <BR> >frequency. The lifting of the leg is something that happened by <BR> >necessity, and only minimally. At first, you can't do it and have to <BR> >have help, then all of a sudden, one day you can. I was alone during <BR> >the day as of day 7, so I had nobody to help me lift it - I tried <BR> >using my reacher and a belt as a leg-lifter, but only succeeded in <BR> >pulling a back muscle. So after that, I'd kind of wiggle and slide <BR> >my leg to the place it needed to be. It just got easier and easier <BR> >with time.<BR> ><BR> >Lois<BR> ><BR> ><BR> ><BR> ></tt> > ><br> > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b>Yahoo! Groups Sponsor</b></font></td> ></tr> ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> ><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a href= " http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705094\ 725:HM/A=1732161/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=30509 & m\ edia=atkins " alt= " " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets2003/300x250_alovemybody.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> </td> ></tr> ><tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=:HM/A=1732161/rand=131053810 " ></td></tr> ></table> > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > ><br> ><tt> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Hi , Thanks for a smile in my day............... re eating hot fudge sundae............ All this stuff is so subjective isn't it........... and sadly so many think there is some normal that either they should be pushing for or are behind in not being able to do......... When I went to see my OS at 6 months he did a bit of showing off to a young just qualified OS who was doing the 'I am in awe of you great master trip at his office that day'........... he lifted my leg and got me to hold it mid air, which he and I knew was a feat I had just managed against all odd......... Young thing was totally amazed...... even more sounds of awe etc........ and us oldies got a little kick which I suspect was related more to impressing young thing than anything else........ i.e. we oldies can still get it together so there.......... In all this I just remain grateful that a process and surgeon exists to give me this opportunity to heal my life....... With many of us it takes quite a bit to do that and maintaining a good sense of humour often seems to be a larger prerequite to being successful than all the PT or whatever............ Edith LBHR Dr. L Walter Syd Aust 8/02 Just to put in my 2 cents, my P.T., in rehab on day 4, wanted me to do an inch or so of leg lifting while on my back AND on my side holding the rail. They wanted 10 reps and I could not do one. This was daily and seemed impossible. I think I only got to do this after I had some serious muscle build up. I remember concentrating on using the muscles and squeezing them in order to lift. I guess it is different depending where you are. Maybe the best thing would be sitting quietly doing some upper body work like eating a hot fudge sundae. > They told me in the hospital not to do straight leg lifts... wasn't sure for how long so I e-mailed my OS and was told to wait until 6th week to do this... > > Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 " Straight leg lifts " are on the sheet of exercises from the physio department att eh hospital. When the physio came last week I couldn't do it, but I've been able to do it all this week and she'll be pleased when she comes tomorrow. The leg lifts aren't high, just a little bit off the bed. Virginia >From: hollandlucy@... >Reply-To: surfacehippy >To: surfacehippy >Subject: Re: Leg Lifts??! >Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 04:19:51 EDT > >Hi Everyone > >I've noticed people's postings about being able to 'lift their leg off of >the >bed'. I presume this means, laying on their back and lifting their leg >straight up, held straight out in front of them. > >My PT is possibly a little different to most other peoples and I was >actually >trying to do this (before I realised my physio said not to!!!) Is this >something you have been told to do by your surgeons/physiotherapists? > >Just curious :-) > >Love Lucy >Bilateral Hip Resurfacing Mr Treacy 20.08.03 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 , Ice cream sounds like a great cure all. Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Interesting. I think that shows, once again, that there is a range of views on rehabilitation among surgeons. I'm glad the change worked for you. The physio has just visited me, and I'm continuing with the leg lifts (as per the printed instructions for post-BHR) and the heel slides. - Virginia (BHR, 27/8/03) >From: Picnichut@... >Reply-To: surfacehippy >To: surfacehippy >Subject: Re: Re: Leg Lifts??! >Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:50:59 EDT > >My surgeon told me to stop doing the leg lifts and heel slides given to me >by >my PT because they are stressful on the Illiopsoas Tendon. I stopped >trying >them. Now at 16 weeks I can lift my leg practically any direction I want >and >have a nice range of heel to bottom action:-) > >Hope this helps >alyce >LC2K - Wm Kennedy - 5/23/03 _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Rich, the " straight leg raise " (just 20 cm) is on the printed sheet of physio exercises I brought home from hospital. I couldn't do it when the visiting physio came on Day 16, but by 2 1/2 weeks found I suddenly could do it, easily. The leg lifts I'm referring to are done as an exercise for the quadruceps, lying on one's back wiht the other leg bent (for back confort). The knee on the operated side is kept very straight and the leg is lifted about 20 cm. The physio was really pleasee when she saw me do it yesterday, effortlessly (Day 23). It just shows that different surgeons have different protocols for rehab. Virginia > >Reply-To: surfacehippy >To: <surfacehippy > >Subject: Re: Re: Leg Lifts??! >Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:38:12 -0400 > >They told me in the hospital not to do straight leg lifts... wasn't sure >for how long so I e-mailed my OS and was told to wait until 6th week to do >this... > >Rich > > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > >Reply-To: surfacehippy >Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 21:22:32 -0000 > > ><html><body> > > > > > ><tt> > ><BR> > >> Hi Everyone<BR> > >> <BR> > >> I've noticed people's postings about being able to 'lift their leg <BR> > >off of the <BR> > >> bed'. I presume this means, laying on their back and lifting their ><BR> > >leg <BR> > >> straight up, held straight out in front of them.<BR> > >> <BR> > >> My PT is possibly a little different to most other peoples and I <BR> > >was actually <BR> > >> trying to do this (before I realised my physio said not to!!!) Is <BR> > >this <BR> > >> something you have been told to do by your <BR> > >surgeons/physiotherapists?<BR> > >> <BR> > >> Just curious :-)<BR> > >> <BR> > >> Love Lucy<BR> > >> Bilateral Hip Resurfacing Mr Treacy 20.08.03<BR> > ><BR> > >No, it's definitely not something I was told to do, but in the normal ><BR> > >movements of everyday life, like trying to get onto a bed or couch or ><BR> > >wherever, it just happens. I had to use a big pillow on the foot <BR> > >part of my recliner, because it's not quite long enough to support <BR> > >enough of my leg for comfort, and just getting the leg to swing on <BR> > >top of the pillow was enough of that particular movement. My doctor <BR> > >(Gross) doesn't believe in any formal PT at all - he gave me 4 simple ><BR> > >exercises (heel pumps, butt scrunches and two others that are harder <BR> > >to describe) and that was it. But the difference is that the <BR> > >exercises he gave me are to be repeated with greater and greater <BR> > >frequency. The lifting of the leg is something that happened by <BR> > >necessity, and only minimally. At first, you can't do it and have to ><BR> > >have help, then all of a sudden, one day you can. I was alone during ><BR> > >the day as of day 7, so I had nobody to help me lift it - I tried <BR> > >using my reacher and a belt as a leg-lifter, but only succeeded in <BR> > >pulling a back muscle. So after that, I'd kind of wiggle and slide <BR> > >my leg to the place it needed to be. It just got easier and easier <BR> > >with time.<BR> > ><BR> > >Lois<BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ><BR> > ></tt> > > > ><br> > > > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b>Yahoo! Groups >Sponsor</b></font></td> > ></tr> > ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > ><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0> ><tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a >href= " http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=170509\ 4725:HM/A=1732161/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=30509 & \ media=atkins " >alt= " " ><img >src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets2003/300x250_alovemybody.gif " >alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> ></td> > ></tr> > ><tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 >src= " http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupma\ il/S=:HM/A=1732161/rand=131053810 " ></td></tr> > ></table> > > > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > > > ><br> > ><tt> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 I've also been encouraged to do what you call leg lifts lying on my side (as well as straight leg raises on my back). On the printed sheet from the physio department, this is hip abduction with the knees bent and a pillow between them, and rotating the top knee <5 cms. However, yesterday (Day 23) my physio got me doing it in this side-lying position with my legs straight. Harder, and it really works the *abductor* muscles. I'm doing really well, except for a flare-up of rueumatoid arthritis in the foot on the operated side. This I could do without as it meant last night I needed to use a stick as well as a crutch, when I'd got to just the one crutch. Today, after sleeping like a log, the foot isn't too bad and I was able to use just the crutch when preparing my breakfast. Virginia (Day 24) > >Reply-To: surfacehippy >To: surfacehippy >Subject: Re: Leg Lifts??! >Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 01:45:53 -0000 > >Just to put in my 2 cents, my P.T., in rehab on day 4, wanted me to >do an inch or so of leg lifting while on my back AND on my side >holding the rail. They wanted 10 reps and I could not do one. This >was daily and seemed impossible. I think I only got to do this after >I had some serious muscle build up. I remember concentrating on using >the muscles and squeezing them in order to lift. >I guess it is different depending where you are. Maybe the best thing >would be sitting quietly doing some upper body work like eating a hot >fudge sundae. > ><BR> > > >> Hi Everyone<BR> > > >> <BR> > > >> I've noticed people's postings about being able to 'lift their >leg <BR> > > >off of the <BR> > > >> bed'. I presume this means, laying on their back and lifting >their <BR> > > >leg <BR> > > >> straight up, held straight out in front of them.<BR> > > >> <BR> > > >> My PT is possibly a little different to most other peoples and I ><BR> > > >was actually <BR> > > >> trying to do this (before I realised my physio said not to!!!) >Is <BR> > > >this <BR> > > >> something you have been told to do by your <BR> > > >surgeons/physiotherapists?<BR> > > >> <BR> > > >> Just curious :-)<BR> > > >> <BR> > > >> Love Lucy<BR> > > >> Bilateral Hip Resurfacing Mr Treacy 20.08.03<BR> > > ><BR> > > >No, it's definitely not something I was told to do, but in the >normal <BR> > > >movements of everyday life, like trying to get onto a bed or couch >or <BR> > > >wherever, it just happens. I had to use a big pillow on the foot ><BR> > > >part of my recliner, because it's not quite long enough to support ><BR> > > >enough of my leg for comfort, and just getting the leg to swing on ><BR> > > >top of the pillow was enough of that particular movement. My >doctor <BR> > > >(Gross) doesn't believe in any formal PT at all - he gave me 4 >simple <BR> > > >exercises (heel pumps, butt scrunches and two others that are >harder <BR> > > >to describe) and that was it. But the difference is that the <BR> > > >exercises he gave me are to be repeated with greater and greater ><BR> > > >frequency. The lifting of the leg is something that happened by ><BR> > > >necessity, and only minimally. At first, you can't do it and have >to <BR> > > >have help, then all of a sudden, one day you can. I was alone >during <BR> > > >the day as of day 7, so I had nobody to help me lift it - I tried ><BR> > > >using my reacher and a belt as a leg-lifter, but only succeeded in ><BR> > > >pulling a back muscle. So after that, I'd kind of wiggle and >slide <BR> > > >my leg to the place it needed to be. It just got easier and easier ><BR> > > >with time.<BR> > > ><BR> > > >Lois<BR> > > ><BR> > > ><BR> > > ><BR> > > ></tt> > > > > > ><br> > > > > > ><!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > > > > ><table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > > ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > > ><td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b>Yahoo! Groups >Sponsor</b></font></td> > > ></tr> > > ><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > > ><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 >cellspacing=0> <tr> <td align=center><font face=arial size=- >2>ADVERTISEMENT</font><br><a >href= " http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb >/S=1705094725:HM/A=1732161/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/st >art.cfm?code=30509 & media=atkins " alt= " " ><img >src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ed/ediets2003/300x250_alovemy >body.gif " alt= " click here " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " >border= " 0 " ></a></td></tr></table> </td> > > ></tr> > > ><tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 >src= " http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? >M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1732161/rand=131 >053810 " ></td></tr> > > ></table> > > > > > ><!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > > > > > > ><br> > > ><tt> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Hi Lucy Mark, Dr De Smet's physiotherapist, had us start doing leg lifts on Day 3. At first I could only lift the operated leg about 2 inches off the bed, with the other leg bent at the knee, while lying on my back. We did another exercise where he would lift the operated leg straight up as far as was comfortable, which for me was to the 90 degree angle (staright up in the air), because I have a lot of flexibility.. Then he would have me push down on his hands with that leg, building up muscle strength. Dr De Smet wants his patients to do full weight bearing on the operated side as soon as possible, which I gather soem docs don't do. As precautions, he does have patients wear those TEDs stockings for 5 weeks, take Heparin (blood thinning) shots for 3 weeks, and Indocid for about 6 weeks. Mark also had me do side leg raises (adductor?) while holding onto a wall, from about Day3, but I don't recall any of those done lying down. Sharry Re: Leg Lifts??! Hi Everyone I've noticed people's postings about being able to 'lift their leg off of the bed'. I presume this means, laying on their back and lifting their leg straight up, held straight out in front of them. My PT is possibly a little different to most other peoples and I was actually trying to do this (before I realised my physio said not to!!!) Is this something you have been told to do by your surgeons/physiotherapists? Just curious :-) Love Lucy Bilateral Hip Resurfacing Mr Treacy 20.08.03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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