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Hey Gordon, an Echo is one of the coolest tests on earth. No prep, IV's etc.

They can perform it while your resting, or if the physician wants to, he can do

a Stress Echo, (but only if he/she told you it was gonna be a stress echo) which

means they do it right after you've exercised (I think usually on a treadmill).

They run a little instrument over your left chest where your heart lies, then

have your turn on your left side and do the same thing Sometimes they have to

sit up as well, and also ask you to " bear down " like your gonna have a bowel

movement. The purpose of the test is to assess the patency of your heart valves

(tight versus floppy and leaking) and the strength of each heart chamber. You

can actually watch it on a t.v. screen as they do it. Kinda like when women are

pregnant and have an ultrasound to check on the baby's size etc. Anyway it's

really cool. One of the most important features of the test is something called

an EF which stands for ejection fraction.

This is how strong your left ventricle (powerhouse of the heart) sweezes and

pumps the blood out of the heart. So anyway, if they are evaluating you for

significant fatigue, they are looking for the function of your valves, esp

aortic and mitral, as well as how much oomph your left ventricle has. A normal

EF is around 65 - 70%, NOT based on 100%. So if for instance they told you your

EF was 60 %, don't worry, that's not really bad, cause again it's base on a

normal of 65 - 70%. The color flow part of it detects blood flow pattern and

velocities in the heart valves and great vessels. The blue and red hues are

photographed to identify the blood flow directions and velocities through the

heart and valves. They do this part of the test through the echo machine

itself. (No dye is injected in you). Hope that makes sense. Bonnie

string925572003 wrote:Hi everyone:

I've been trying to get life insurance for a while now but keep

getting turned down. I tried AFLAC and they call you for an over

the phone health interview. The girl asked questions of my history

of course and when I told her about the IGA Nepthropathy I started

to dread explaining it to her, but she said thats ok, I have it too!!

She then went on to offer a great Website, and I stopped her and said

the one created by Pierre and she said yeah. Small world. I asked

her if I had a chance but she wasn't sure because she doesn't know

what happens after it goes for review.

Well if your out there lurking, and you remember me, they just sent

a letter denying my application. Oh, well I'll keep on trying.

Just a side note, my last Neph visit went really well. I asked him

if there was anything in the lab that would give a sign of why I

trired so easily he said no, but he gave a referral to do Echo exam

of heart Doppler Color Flow just in case. Any one now what this is?

Gordon

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for life insurance for people with IGA and other uninsurable illnessnesses this

is an almost sure thing. I went here and so far I have not been turned down I

have almost made it through the approval process they know about my IGA and my

bipolar and they still took me all they asked me for so far was my income and

assess. here is their # 1- it is Zander insurance Group they have

one company that will take high risk people they even insure people with HIV. So

u may want to try them.

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Life insurance denied

Hi everyone:

I've been trying to get life insurance for a while now but keep

getting turned down. I tried AFLAC and they call you for an over

the phone health interview. The girl asked questions of my history

of course and when I told her about the IGA Nepthropathy I started

to dread explaining it to her, but she said thats ok, I have it too!!

She then went on to offer a great Website, and I stopped her and said

the one created by Pierre and she said yeah. Small world. I asked

her if I had a chance but she wasn't sure because she doesn't know

what happens after it goes for review.

Well if your out there lurking, and you remember me, they just sent

a letter denying my application. Oh, well I'll keep on trying.

Just a side note, my last Neph visit went really well. I asked him

if there was anything in the lab that would give a sign of why I

trired so easily he said no, but he gave a referral to do Echo exam

of heart Doppler Color Flow just in case. Any one now what this is?

Gordon

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iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

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donations. If you would like to help, go to:

http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

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Gordon,

Yes, I'm still here lurking! :-)

I'm so sorry you were denied! I am the one you talked to! I've actually met 1

other person in the meantime and given them the website also through another

interview I did so hopefully they'll find their way here too eventually.

The only thing I can tell you is to keep trying!

Again, I'm sorry you were denied. Don't give up!

~Dana

Life insurance denied

Hi everyone:

I've been trying to get life insurance for a while now but keep

getting turned down. I tried AFLAC and they call you for an over

the phone health interview. The girl asked questions of my history

of course and when I told her about the IGA Nepthropathy I started

to dread explaining it to her, but she said thats ok, I have it too!!

She then went on to offer a great Website, and I stopped her and said

the one created by Pierre and she said yeah. Small world. I asked

her if I had a chance but she wasn't sure because she doesn't know

what happens after it goes for review.

Well if your out there lurking, and you remember me, they just sent

a letter denying my application. Oh, well I'll keep on trying.

Just a side note, my last Neph visit went really well. I asked him

if there was anything in the lab that would give a sign of why I

trired so easily he said no, but he gave a referral to do Echo exam

of heart Doppler Color Flow just in case. Any one now what this is?

Gordon

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home page:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iga-nephropathy/

To unsubcribe via email,

iga-nephropathy-unsubscribe

Visit our companion website at www.igan.ca. The site is entirely supported by

donations. If you would like to help, go to:

http://www.igan.ca/id62.htm

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Hi Gordon,

I am sorry you were declined. One thought, AFLAC approved me BUT with the

condition that any IgAN related claims would have a two year exclusion. All I

had to do was make it two years with no claims and it will now cover me. You

might try to see if they will agree to that.

Good luck with your Echo test. I wish there was an easy answer to the

fatigue, but it seems like so many of us fight it regardless of being anemic or

not.

In a message dated 9/7/2004 5:34:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gordonselena@... writes:

> Hi everyone:

> I've been trying to get life insurance for a while now but keep

> getting turned down. I tried AFLAC and they call you for an over

> the phone health interview. The girl asked questions of my history

> of course and when I told her about the IGA Nepthropathy I started

> to dread explaining it to her, but she said thats ok, I have it too!!

> She then went on to offer a great Website, and I stopped her and said

> the one created by Pierre and she said yeah. Small world. I asked

> her if I had a chance but she wasn't sure because she doesn't know

> what happens after it goes for review.

>

> Well if your out there lurking, and you remember me, they just sent

> a letter denying my application. Oh, well I'll keep on trying.

>

> Just a side note, my last Neph visit went really well. I asked him

> if there was anything in the lab that would give a sign of why I

> trired so easily he said no, but he gave a referral to do Echo exam

> of heart Doppler Color Flow just in case. Any one now what this is?

>

> Gordon

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Hi Gordon

I've had an echocardiogram of the heart a number of times. It's basically just

an ultrasound, the same one they might do of the kidneys or the abdomen (which

I've also had), or the one they do on pregnant women. It can tell a cardiologist

a lot about how your heart if functioning, but it's really just one test that. I

had to have one in 2002 as part of my potential transplant recipient evaluation.

There's nothing to it, as you just take your shirt off and lie down, usually

with your hands above your head on a pillow. The tech tells you to move on one

side or the other. 20 minutes, and that's about it. The only thing that can be

uncomfortable about it is that the probe has to be pressed into the ribs, and if

you don't have much fat there, it's not too comfortable - but it's not really

pain. I say it's just one test, because, if there's any reason to do an echo, a

cardiologist will almost invariably also want a stress test on the treadmill at

some point.

An echocardiogram is easily the least bothersome test in the world of being a

kidney patient.

Pierre

Life insurance denied

Hi everyone:

I've been trying to get life insurance for a while now but keep

getting turned down. I tried AFLAC and they call you for an over

the phone health interview. The girl asked questions of my history

of course and when I told her about the IGA Nepthropathy I started

to dread explaining it to her, but she said thats ok, I have it too!!

She then went on to offer a great Website, and I stopped her and said

the one created by Pierre and she said yeah. Small world. I asked

her if I had a chance but she wasn't sure because she doesn't know

what happens after it goes for review.

Well if your out there lurking, and you remember me, they just sent

a letter denying my application. Oh, well I'll keep on trying.

Just a side note, my last Neph visit went really well. I asked him

if there was anything in the lab that would give a sign of why I

trired so easily he said no, but he gave a referral to do Echo exam

of heart Doppler Color Flow just in case. Any one now what this is?

Gordon

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