Re: BC D-Day update Chris cover ALL THE BASES

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Just a warning so you cover all the bases. Most young women have

dense breast tissue, even some of us old folk do. If her breasts show

density on the mammogram have her ask for an ultrasound as well. My

cancer hid behind the dense tissue for years and was only discovered

recently when I noticed a slight change in my breast. Did not show up

on clinical or self exam either.

Ruth

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> According to the GP, she does not have it. She scheduled a mammogram

> for next Wednesday, to make sure.

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[Guest guest]

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I was just thinking, how can the GP be SURE she doesn't have breast cancer? I agree with Ruth.

Hugs

nne

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Re: BC D-Day update cover ALL THE BASES

,Just a warning so you cover all the bases. Most young women havedense breast tissue, even some of us old folk do. If her breasts showdensity on the mammogram have her ask for an ultrasound as well. Mycancer hid behind the dense tissue for years and was only discoveredrecently when I noticed a slight change in my breast. Did not show upon clinical or self exam either.Ruth>> According to the GP, she does not have it. She scheduled a mammogram > for next Wednesday, to make sure.> > >

[Guest guest]

-Chris- I also am glad to hear the positivr news. I also agree that

she should probably request an ultrasound. It does hurt to be on

the safe side. Again, I am extremely happy at today's news

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> I was just thinking, how can the GP be SURE she doesn't have

breast cancer? I agree with Ruth.

> Hugs

> nne

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> Re: BC D-Day update cover ALL THE

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> Just a warning so you cover all the bases. Most young women have

> dense breast tissue, even some of us old folk do. If her

breasts show

> density on the mammogram have her ask for an ultrasound as

well. My

> cancer hid behind the dense tissue for years and was only

discovered

> recently when I noticed a slight change in my breast. Did not

show up

> on clinical or self exam either.

> Ruth

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> > According to the GP, she does not have it. She scheduled a

mammogram

> > for next Wednesday, to make sure.

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[Guest guest]

, Please don't take this the wrong way. Any positive words are a wonderful thing. But the Nurse Practioner who did my mothers exam told her that if she had to go by touch she would say that it was not cancer. Unfortunately she was wrong. But I also know a lot more people who have been told that and they were right. Point is, in my opinion, no doctor should be doing a hands on exam and telling a patient that they do not have cancer without the proper tests being run. The next step, mammogram, is a great thing. Sometimes an ultrasound is recommend but that is one that is almost always done after the mammogram, and I am not a professional medical anything, just a person with a family history of breast cancer who gets a little bothered when a doctor tells a patient something like that without knowing for sure.

Hope all turns out well.

Patti

>> According to the GP, she does not have it. She scheduled a mammogram > for next Wednesday, to make sure.> > >

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ruthiema36 wrote:

> ,

> Just a warning so you cover all the bases. Most young women have

> dense breast tissue, even some of us old folk do. If her breasts show

> density on the mammogram have her ask for an ultrasound as well. My

> cancer hid behind the dense tissue for years and was only discovered

> recently when I noticed a slight change in my breast. Did not show up

> on clinical or self exam either.

> Ruth

Ruth, While it is very good advice, I am already that way, when it comes

to her medical issues.

I hope that doesn't sound critical of you?

While I don't believe in astrology or, horoscopes, I was born in the

month of May and, under the sign of the Ox.

People born in the month of May, are said to be stubborn, bull-headed

and, don't take 'NO' for answer.

I am both of those. That is how, she was properly diagnosed for, what

had thought to be migraines for years, was actually

Hydrocephalus(diagnosed in Nov.'02). The doctors would not have found

it, had I not got in their face. The medical care here(Duluth,

Minnesota) is basically done a 'conveyor belt'-like attitude. I don't

stand for it and, the hospitals around here know it. They know to

listen to me or, there will be consequences(loss of jobs, reprimands).

I definitely agree with you, about, it being dense tissue. Also, The

possibility of Cancer hiding behind the masses in both breasts.

Anyway, She has a mammogram scheduled for, a week from today since, that

is her next day off from work, that they are available. They couldn't

do it tomorrow because, they only do them Mon-Wed, so, despite her being

off tomorrow, she will have to wait till then, for the mammogram.

[Guest guest]

& nne Svihlik wrote:

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I was just thinking, how can the GP

be SURE she doesn't have breast cancer? I agree with Ruth.

Hugs

nne

I agree too. She will be having a

mammogram on Wednesay of next week.

To me, what the GP said is, slightly analogous to moldy bread.

Just because there are no green spots in the bread, doesn't mean, it

isn't.

[Guest guest]

pert364 wrote:

> -Chris- I also am glad to hear the positive news. I also agree that

> she should probably request an ultrasound. It does hurt to be on the

> safe side. Again, I am extremely happy at today's news.

It is positive news(or so it seems) but, I am not going to rest on

that. I will be pushing for a U/S, the day of the mammogram(next

Wednesday). I won't take 'NO' for answer, in the sense of, they don't

feel it it would be necessary.

[Guest guest]

Patti wrote:

> , Please don't take this the wrong way. Any positive words

> are a wonderful thing. But the Nurse Practioner who did my mothers

> exam told her that if she had to go by touch she would say that it was

> not cancer. Unfortunately she was wrong. But I also know a lot more

> people who have been told that and they were right. Point is, in my

> opinion, no doctor should be doing a hands on exam and telling a

> patient that they do not have cancer without the proper tests being

> run. The next step, mammogram, is a great thing. Sometimes an

> ultrasound is recommend but that is one that is almost always done

> after the mammogram, and I am not a professional medical anything,

> just a person with a family history of breast cancer who gets a little

> bothered when a doctor tells a patient something like that without

> knowing for sure.

I love it, because, it sounds as bull-headed as me. I will be pushing

for a U/S, the day of the mammogram, regardless of, whether, they feel

it is necessary, or not. I won't take 'NO' for answer and, the

hospitals around know that about me. They don't want to go against me,

where her medical care is concerned.

To give you an example of what I am talking about, in Nov.'02, she had a

severe migraine. She had told me that, she had been having them, since

she was 17yrs.-old(1985), when, her step-father stopped abusing

her(1972-1985). I told the ER physician at the hospital(regardless of

the fact we were not married) that, they were not going to give her a

migraine med and, send her on her way. I demanded that, they do a

CT-Scan and, an MRI. When they did the CT-Scan, I talked with the

'on-call' neurologist and, he showed me the scans and, I was floored by

what I saw. To the average person, the scans would have looked normal

but, not to me. I was born(1967) with a severe form of Hydrocephalus

and, I could tell, she had it, even though, it was not like mine. Hers

is referred to as Normal Pressure Hydrocephalus. Now, As of Feb.'04,we

both have VP shunts. I have had one, since Feb.'68.

> Hope all turns out well.

>

> Patti

Thankyou

[Guest guest]

That is the attitude Chris. Go one step further, if they see something and say let's just keep an eye on it awhile, insist that they do a biopsy.

Good luck,

Ren

A Desire to Inspire

[Guest guest]

rendurall@... wrote:

Chris: I was also

told that it was not cancer because cancer does not grow that fast,

that was the ultrasound doc that told me that after my mammogram. My

GP said he did not think it was anything, but sent me to the surgeon

who did my breast reduction, and the plastic surgeon said, he thought

it was scar tissue. This circus ride went on for a year before I was

diagnosed. A sooner diagnosis would have kept it from going into my

lymph nodes. Check it all out. If I could go back I would have

demanded a biopsy from the get go.

Good luck and you don't know what to do until know what it is for sure.

Ren

E. Tn

A Desire to Inspire

I refuse to let them off the hook for,

what they have already done(referring to the episode at the hospital

Friday night where, they almost killed her by, not looking properly at

her chart). When they do the mammogram, I am going to insist they do

an U/S.

[Guest guest]

Good heavens, , why would I take that as sounding critical

of me! You are being proactive which is a good thing. My belief is

that we depend too much on mammography and many cancers are missed,

because of dense tissue. Apparently your fiance has a palpable lump

so I am assuming she will have an ultrasound in addition to the

mammogram. I just wanted to let you know that because the GP doesn't

feel it is cancer, while a positive thing, shouldn't be taken

seriously until all the proper tests are done. My belief is that

anyone who has a mammogram which shows dense tissue should have an

ultrasound of both breasts as well. Certainly would have saved my

insurance company a fortune in the long run. And we wonder why

medical expences are going through the roof!! Its because the medical

comunity does things on the cheap. Penny wise and pound foolish.

Ruth

> Ruth, While it is very good advice, I am already that way, when it

comes

> to her medical issues.

>

> I hope that doesn't sound critical of you?

[Guest guest]

ruthiema36 wrote:

> Good heavens, , why would I take that as sounding critical

> of me! You are being proactive which is a good thing.

I just had this nagging worry, that, you might think, I was basically

saying 'I do that already so, that is old news'. Until you told

me(which was a relief), that, you didn't think I was being critical, I

was filled with worry.

> My belief is that we depend too much on mammography and many cancers

> are missed, because of dense tissue. Apparently your fiance has a

> palpable lump

> so I am assuming she will have an ultrasound in addition to the

> mammogram. I just wanted to let you know that because the GP doesn't

> feel it is cancer, while a positive thing, shouldn't be taken

> seriously until all the proper tests are done.

Ditto, While he is the one with the medical degree, what I was feeling,

doesn't jive with, what he thinks.

> My belief is that anyone who has a mammogram which shows dense tissue

> should have an ultrasound of both breasts as well.

Ditto

> Certainly would have saved my insurance company a fortune in the long run.

Yes, It would have.

> And we wonder why medical expences are going through the roof!!

Regardless of what the 'roof' is made of.(ROTFLMHO!!!!!)

> It's because the medical comunity does things on the cheap. Penny

> wise and pound foolish.

> Ruth

The chammpions at, the 'quick-fix' and, the losers at the 'concerted

effort'.

[Guest guest]

rendurall@... wrote:

That is the attitude

Chris. Go one step further, if they see something and say let's just

keep an eye on it awhile, insist that they do a biopsy.

Good luck,

Ren

A Desire to Inspire

Not only that, I have,

BOTH, German and Irish ancestry. Both, The Germans and, Irish are

known for being stubborn, bull-headed, obstreporous, boisterous and,

obstinate. With all that, medical mistakes rarely happen with her

because, I am always drilling them about what is going on.

In terms Friday, when I heard the nurse say Dilaudid was the pain med

she gave my fiance, I felt like I had been runover by a 25-Ton

18-Wheeler, because, I suddenly felt like I was functioning in a daze,

knowing what drug the nurse had just given her.

From now on, when my fiance has to go to the hospital suddenly and, I

have to get to the hospital on my own, I will be calling:

1. 911, as to the severity of her condition and, the need to read her

Medic Alert necklace.

2. The ER, to make sure the 'on-call' neurologist (and if need be, the

'on-call' neurosurgeon) are sent to the ER to thoroughly check her

eyes, gait, eye-hand coordination n' speech and, her shunt.

3. The ER Dept. Director about what happened so, she knows from me and,

not someone else if, I had to 'blow my stack' to get things done.

[Guest guest]

That happened to me. Dr. told me she thought it was just a cyst. It wasn't. When the surgeon did the biopsy in his office it came back negative but he insisted that we weren't out of the woods yet and I needed to have the core biopsy. That is when the cancer cells showed up.

I still do not know why my breast hurt, the reason I originally went to the doctor to begin with (most tumors cause no pain, I am told), but I'm glad it did.The sooner we catch these tumors the better.

Barb

Re: Re: BC D-Day update cover ALL THE BASES

, Please don't take this the wrong way. Any positive words are a wonderful thing. But the Nurse Practioner who did my mothers exam told her that if she had to go by touch she would say that it was not cancer. Unfortunately she was wrong. But I also know a lot more people who have been told that and they were right. Point is, in my opinion, no doctor should be doing a hands on exam and telling a patient that they do not have cancer without the proper tests being run. The next step, mammogram, is a great thing. Sometimes an ultrasound is recommend but that is one that is almost always done after the mammogram, and I am not a professional medical anything, just a person with a family history of breast cancer who gets a little bothered when a doctor tells a patient something like that without knowing for sure.

Hope all turns out well.

Patti

>> According to the GP, she does not have it. She scheduled a mammogram > for next Wednesday, to make sure.> > >

[Guest guest]

Barb Roy wrote:

That happened to me. Dr. told me she

thought it was just a cyst. It wasn't. When the surgeon did the biopsy

in his office it came back negative but he insisted that we weren't out

of the woods yet and I needed to have the core biopsy. That is when the

cancer cells showed up.

This is why I am going to insist on an ultrasound, following the

mammogram.

I still do not know why my breast hurt,

the reason I originally went to the doctor to begin with (most tumors

cause no pain, I am told), but I'm glad it did. The sooner we catch

these tumors the better.

Barb

I definitely agree!!!