Re: OT New Zealand

[Guest guest]

Lisbeth,

Hey, great we're all on our way. Just one thing -- is there a

Mc's anywhere near your house? No offense or anything but it

sounds like we'd be safer just imposing for the bed and seeking the

breakfast elsewhere. :}

Hope you enjoy your cricket match.

Hugs,

a Peden

Lisbeth wrote:

>

> >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

>

> >..we could all purchase tickets and go to Wellington Harbour, New Zealand

> >and stay in Lisbeth's house and let her do all the cooking for us

>

> Hmmmm now let me see how does toasted huhu bug and possum stew sound?

> And maybe an Australian or two.................

[Guest guest]

I have on occasion been accused of 'bashing' the Americans (strongly deny

it!) so I will make amends here and tell you..............I have a friend in

Sweden who is very fussy about what she eats and will only eat at Macdonalds

when she's out as it's the only place she trusts to serve good/safe food!

What's wrong with you anyway that you don't fancy a huhu bug it's excellent

protein:-))

And yes we do have Mcs.

hugs,

lisbeth

>From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

>Lisbeth,

>Hey, great we're all on our way. Just one thing -- is there a

>Mc's anywhere near your house? No offense or anything but it

>sounds like we'd be safer just imposing for the bed and seeking the

>breakfast elsewhere. :}

>Hope you enjoy your cricket match.

>Hugs,

>a Peden

>

>Lisbeth wrote:

>>

>> >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

>>

>> >..we could all purchase tickets and go to Wellington Harbour, New

Zealand

>> >and stay in Lisbeth's house and let her do all the cooking for us

>>

>> Hmmmm now let me see how does toasted huhu bug and possum stew sound?

>> And maybe an Australian or two.................

[Guest guest]

Hey! I need to jump in here on this one. You see I have had the privilege

of actually visiting Lisbeth at her home. (She also provides

transportation.....picked us up at the ferry. (You have to leave your rental

car when travelling on the ferry from the Southern to Northern provinces

then pick up a new car on the other side. So she picked us up from the

ferry and drove us to our motel.....then picked us up for a wonderful,

delicious dinner at her house. The dinner was beyond expectations but

beyond that the company was

the best!!!! Lisbeth and her hubby, Warren and neat people and charming

hosts. Carolyn joined us for the evening and we gals spent a lot of time

talking rheumatic disease and AP. Our husbands cheerfully tolerated all

this and let us go on and on. Next day Lisbeth picked me up at our motel

and drove me over

to meet Dr. Chiu and I presented him with a box of chocolates. (This is

" old

news " to all oldies). Sooooooooo get your bags packed.....this is the kind

of

treatment you'll get at Lisbeths....and a hug to boot!!!!! Judy (deejay)

from

southwest Washington State.

Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

> Lisbeth,

> Hey, great we're all on our way. Just one thing -- is there a

> Mc's anywhere near your house? No offense or anything but it

> sounds like we'd be safer just imposing for the bed and seeking the

> breakfast elsewhere. :}

> Hope you enjoy your cricket match..

> Hugs,

> a Peden

>

> Lisbeth wrote:

> >

> > >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

> >

> > >..we could all purchase tickets and go to Wellington Harbour, New

Zealand

> > >and stay in Lisbeth's house and let her do all the cooking for us

> >

> > Hmmmm now let me see how does toasted huhu bug and possum stew sound?

> > And maybe an Australian or two..................

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Lisbeth,

Hey, honey, hate to tell you but (1) I'm a crazy Canuck (2) I don't

really care for Mc's but (3) it does sound better than huhu bugs.

However, if I ever manage to make it by your way, I think I'd be coming

more for the company than the food. Something tells me that a visit

with you would be a lot of fun. Now, if you ever get north, we could

put on a good old western barbecue for you -- ever heard of prairie

oysters? You don't want to know where they come from. :}

Hugs,

a

Lisbeth wrote:

>

> I have on occasion been accused of 'bashing' the Americans (strongly deny

> it!) so I will make amends here and tell you..............I have a friend in

> Sweden who is very fussy about what she eats and will only eat at Macdonalds

> when she's out as it's the only place she trusts to serve good/safe food!

>

> What's wrong with you anyway that you don't fancy a huhu bug it's excellent

> protein:-))

>

> And yes we do have Mcs.

>

> hugs,

> lisbeth

>

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Hey, I completely believe you on Lisbeth's hospitality. I have a

feeling she'd throw a great party. If this group ever gets a reunion

together, maybe we should volunteer Lisbeth to host. Now I'd better go

hide because I'll bet she's just thrilled I offered her up.

Hugs,

a

judy wiebe wrote:

>

> Hey! I need to jump in here on this one. You see I have had the privilege

> of actually visiting Lisbeth at her home. (She also provides

> transportation.....picked us up at the ferry. (You have to leave your rental

> car when travelling on the ferry from the Southern to Northern provinces

> then pick up a new car on the other side. So she picked us up from the

> ferry and drove us to our motel.....then picked us up for a wonderful,

> delicious dinner at her house. The dinner was beyond expectations but

> beyond that the company was

> the best!!!! Lisbeth and her hubby, Warren and neat people and charming

> hosts. Carolyn joined us for the evening and we gals spent a lot of time

> talking rheumatic disease and AP. Our husbands cheerfully tolerated all

> this and let us go on and on. Next day Lisbeth picked me up at our motel

> and drove me over

> to meet Dr. Chiu and I presented him with a box of chocolates. (This is

> " old

> news " to all oldies). Sooooooooo get your bags packed.....this is the kind

> of

> treatment you'll get at Lisbeths....and a hug to boot!!!!! Judy (deejay)

> from

> southwest Washington State.

[Guest guest]

I'd be willing to bet that she would welcome us one and all. She is one

great lady. SKip

Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

> Judy,

> Hey, I completely believe you on Lisbeth's hospitality. I have a

> feeling she'd throw a great party. If this group ever gets a reunion

> together, maybe we should volunteer Lisbeth to host. Now I'd better go

> hide because I'll bet she's just thrilled I offered her up.

> Hugs,

> a

>

> judy wiebe wrote:

> >

> > Hey! I need to jump in here on this one. You see I have had the

privilege

> > of actually visiting Lisbeth at her home. (She also provides

> > transportation.....picked us up at the ferry. (You have to leave your

rental

> > car when travelling on the ferry from the Southern to Northern provinces

> > then pick up a new car on the other side. So she picked us up from the

> > ferry and drove us to our motel.....then picked us up for a wonderful,

> > delicious dinner at her house. The dinner was beyond expectations but

> > beyond that the company was

> > the best!!!! Lisbeth and her hubby, Warren and neat people and charming

> > hosts. Carolyn joined us for the evening and we gals spent a lot of

time

> > talking rheumatic disease and AP. Our husbands cheerfully tolerated all

> > this and let us go on and on. Next day Lisbeth picked me up at our

motel

> > and drove me over

> > to meet Dr. Chiu and I presented him with a box of chocolates. (This is

> > " old

> > news " to all oldies). Sooooooooo get your bags packed.....this is the

kind

> > of

> > treatment you'll get at Lisbeths....and a hug to boot!!!!! Judy (deejay)

> > from

> > southwest Washington State.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

In New England, it's Meadow Muffins..... :>)

Babs

RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99

200 mg. Minocin

2.5 mg. Methotrexate

112 mcg. Synthroid

2 mg. Hytrin

10 mg. Lipitor

Mestinon

Vits. & Misc. Suplmts.

[Guest guest]

You guys are trying to convince me that Mc's uses Ezekiel buns and vegie

burgers and french fries cooked only in olive oil???? Not born yesterday. Nope

I will take those lulubugs or whatever it was. Is barbeque on our diet?

Wouldn't it REALLY be nice is there was a meeting somewhere sometime someway

where we could all meet up and do one up on whose worse off? It would take us

days and days.....

a Peden wrote:

> Lisbeth,

> Hey, great we're all on our way. Just one thing -- is there a

> Mc's anywhere near your house? No offense or anything but it

> sounds like we'd be safer just imposing for the bed and seeking the

> breakfast elsewhere. :}

> Hope you enjoy your cricket match.

> Hugs,

> a Peden

>

> Lisbeth wrote:

> >

> > >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

> >

> > >..we could all purchase tickets and go to Wellington Harbour, New Zealand

> > >and stay in Lisbeth's house and let her do all the cooking for us

> >

> > Hmmmm now let me see how does toasted huhu bug and possum stew sound?

> > And maybe an Australian or two.................

[Guest guest]

Warren? Who is Warren? I thought she was living with Joe! Boy, do I have my

cats and dogs confused today. I still want to take the trip, though, just so

Judy won't be able to brag that she is the ONLY one who has had this prestigious

honour - spelled just for you guys.

judy wiebe wrote:

> Hey! I need to jump in here on this one. You see I have had the privilege

> of actually visiting Lisbeth at her home. (She also provides

> transportation.....picked us up at the ferry. (You have to leave your rental

> car when travelling on the ferry from the Southern to Northern provinces

> then pick up a new car on the other side. So she picked us up from the

> ferry and drove us to our motel.....then picked us up for a wonderful,

> delicious dinner at her house. The dinner was beyond expectations but

> beyond that the company was

> the best!!!! Lisbeth and her hubby, Warren and neat people and charming

> hosts. Carolyn joined us for the evening and we gals spent a lot of time

> talking rheumatic disease and AP. Our husbands cheerfully tolerated all

> this and let us go on and on. Next day Lisbeth picked me up at our motel

> and drove me over

> to meet Dr. Chiu and I presented him with a box of chocolates. (This is

> " old

> news " to all oldies). Sooooooooo get your bags packed.....this is the kind

> of

> treatment you'll get at Lisbeths....and a hug to boot!!!!! Judy (deejay)

> from

> southwest Washington State.

> Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

>

> > From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

> >

> > Lisbeth,

> > Hey, great we're all on our way. Just one thing -- is there a

> > Mc's anywhere near your house? No offense or anything but it

> > sounds like we'd be safer just imposing for the bed and seeking the

> > breakfast elsewhere. :}

> > Hope you enjoy your cricket match..

> > Hugs,

> > a Peden

> >

> > Lisbeth wrote:

> > >

> > > >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

> > >

> > > >..we could all purchase tickets and go to Wellington Harbour, New

> Zealand

> > > >and stay in Lisbeth's house and let her do all the cooking for us

> > >

> > > Hmmmm now let me see how does toasted huhu bug and possum stew sound?

> > > And maybe an Australian or two..................

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Are these prairie oysters off of prairy dogs? Must take a lot of them....

a Peden wrote:

> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

> Lisbeth,

> Hey, honey, hate to tell you but (1) I'm a crazy Canuck (2) I don't

> really care for Mc's but (3) it does sound better than huhu bugs.

> However, if I ever manage to make it by your way, I think I'd be coming

> more for the company than the food. Something tells me that a visit

> with you would be a lot of fun. Now, if you ever get north, we could

> put on a good old western barbecue for you -- ever heard of prairie

> oysters? You don't want to know where they come from. :}

> Hugs,

> a

>

> Lisbeth wrote:

> >

> > I have on occasion been accused of 'bashing' the Americans (strongly deny

> > it!) so I will make amends here and tell you..............I have a friend in

> > Sweden who is very fussy about what she eats and will only eat at Macdonalds

> > when she's out as it's the only place she trusts to serve good/safe food!

> >

> > What's wrong with you anyway that you don't fancy a huhu bug it's excellent

> > protein:-))

> >

> > And yes we do have Mcs.

> >

> > hugs,

> > lisbeth

> >

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

This sounds as if you have had the pleasure of being there, too. So, Judy is

not the only one! I think we need to plan something.We would all have to travel

together, however, so those of us in a brain fog on that day will get to where

we are REALLY going! All of us together should comprise one swell,

put-together-person.

Denny wrote:

> From: " Denny " <denny@...>

>

> I'd be willing to bet that she would welcome us one and all. She is one

> great lady. SKip

> Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

>

> > From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

> >

> > Judy,

> > Hey, I completely believe you on Lisbeth's hospitality. I have a

> > feeling she'd throw a great party. If this group ever gets a reunion

> > together, maybe we should volunteer Lisbeth to host. Now I'd better go

> > hide because I'll bet she's just thrilled I offered her up.

> > Hugs,

> > a

> >

> > judy wiebe wrote:

> > >

> > > Hey! I need to jump in here on this one. You see I have had the

> privilege

> > > of actually visiting Lisbeth at her home. (She also provides

> > > transportation.....picked us up at the ferry. (You have to leave your

> rental

> > > car when travelling on the ferry from the Southern to Northern provinces

> > > then pick up a new car on the other side. So she picked us up from the

> > > ferry and drove us to our motel.....then picked us up for a wonderful,

> > > delicious dinner at her house. The dinner was beyond expectations but

> > > beyond that the company was

> > > the best!!!! Lisbeth and her hubby, Warren and neat people and charming

> > > hosts. Carolyn joined us for the evening and we gals spent a lot of

> time

> > > talking rheumatic disease and AP. Our husbands cheerfully tolerated all

> > > this and let us go on and on. Next day Lisbeth picked me up at our

> motel

> > > and drove me over

> > > to meet Dr. Chiu and I presented him with a box of chocolates. (This is

> > > " old

> > > news " to all oldies). Sooooooooo get your bags packed.....this is the

> kind

> > > of

> > > treatment you'll get at Lisbeths....and a hug to boot!!!!! Judy (deejay)

> > > from

> > > southwest Washington State.

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

They're off of cows, or to be more exact, bulls, they're round, look

sort of like oysters, you guess what part of the bull they are. As for

taking a lot, as far as I'm concerned, one is too many. :}

Hugs,

a

Bob Fain wrote:

>

> Are these prairie oysters off of prairy dogs? Must take a lot of them....

>

[Guest guest]

>From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

>Warren? Who is Warren? I thought she was living with Joe!

Oooops we've been found out Joe, just as well you're leaving the country for

a while<big grin> It's OK Joe I'll protect your innonence<cheeky grin>

I think we're at the point where we will be flamed for posting irrelevant

rubbish but I just wanted to put the record straight.

, I would need to be 20 years younger, living in the States and not

married to my darling hubby Warren.

I know how the confusion arose though as in one of my posts I had a 'dig' at

Joe and I guess you assumed he was my husband<smile>

Thanks for the 'fun' and respite from the daily grind girls.!!!

hugs,

lisbeth

[Guest guest]

oh....We call those Mountain Oysters here. When you said Prairie Oysters, I was

picturing the same thing from little tiny prairie dogs. Live and learn! You're

right.

Everyone else can have them! LOL

a Peden wrote:

> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

>

> ,

> They're off of cows, or to be more exact, bulls, they're round, look

> sort of like oysters, you guess what part of the bull they are. As for

> taking a lot, as far as I'm concerned, one is too many. :}

> Hugs,

> a

>

> Bob Fain wrote:

> >

> > Are these prairie oysters off of prairy dogs? Must take a lot of them....

> >

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

I thought meadow muffins were cow chips...?

> From: Babs56p@...

> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:43:38 EST

> BobFain@..., paula.peden@...

> Cc: rheumaticonelist

> Subject: Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

>

> From: Babs56p@...

>

> In New England, it's Meadow Muffins..... :>)

>

> Babs

> RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99

> 200 mg. Minocin

> 2.5 mg. Methotrexate

> 112 mcg. Synthroid

> 2 mg. Hytrin

> 10 mg. Lipitor

> Mestinon

> Vits. & Misc. Suplmts.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Those are buffalo chips, eh! And cow pies. Lovely to step in with

bare feet when we were kids when playing ball in the pasture with my

cousins.

Bev

> I thought meadow muffins were cow chips...?

>

> > From: Babs56p@...

> > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:43:38 EST

> > BobFain@..., paula.peden@...

> > Cc: rheumaticonelist

> > Subject: Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

> >

> > From: Babs56p@...

> >

> > In New England, it's Meadow Muffins..... :>)

> >

> > Babs

> > RA 8/98, DX 4/99, AP 11/99

> > 200 mg. Minocin

> > 2.5 mg. Methotrexate

> > 112 mcg. Synthroid

> > 2 mg. Hytrin

> > 10 mg. Lipitor

> > Mestinon

> > Vits. & Misc. Suplmts.

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:49:07 -0600

> From: Elbows <elbows@...>

> Subject: Re: OT New Zealand

>

> I thought meadow muffins were cow chips...?

Naw - cow chips are fire wood!

(let's see who gets sucked into that one!)

Regards,

Geoff Crenshaw, ACC -----------------------

Captain Cook's Cruise Center ** Usual Disclaimers **

-----------------------

Why do I have hope?

Because I am under the blood of the Passover Lamb.

EXO 12:7-3 / MAR 14:24 / REV 12:11

ICQ 60333388

[Guest guest]

Even hillbillies dont burn cow chips. (lessun thay havta)

[Guest guest]

Hi, Gena, I do understand what you are going through. I have scleraderma and

fibromyalgia. So many of us here have RA and fibromyalgia or Lupus and

fibromyalgia. Seems to go with the territory! I think with my problem is that

if I am absolutely still for any period of time, every muscles totally shut

down and I can bearly move. If I over do even with walking, the fatigue sets in

and the tight feeling in my legs where I feel like they are in a box of cement.

It is a fine line to walk. I find that the yoga helps me more than anything! I

cannot do yoga on days where my wrists are killing me. If they are already

inflamed, then using them to support myself would inflame them more, so I have

to choose wisely. I used to do almost all the intermediate yoga moves, now I am

at the beginner level but I pursue through. For a while, before starting the

AP, I could not even do the beginner level. My husband is a runner and I do my

best to remember that runners have to go through the pain. You understand

that. I have days I don't want to get out of bed but if I can persevere to get

up and dressed and go to the office for even just a little while, I think my

attitude is better. I may crash at night but I can sure tell the difference in

just feeling enough like the rest of the world that I get dressed instead of

remaining in my housecoat all day. Do you know yoga breathing? I use the

breath of yoga a lot in meditation and my mantra is (breathing in) Energy In -

then (breath out) I say in my mind and visualize it moving throughout my body to

all places and specifically painful places, Health and Wellness - Heart, Mind,

Body and Spirit. I do this again and again.

Now on a personal note, I am from Dallas, Texas originally. My husband

hated it there and transplanted me to what I perceived as the dropping off place

in the world here in Montana until I grew to love it. Where in Texas are you?

There is an AP support group in Dallas. If that is where you are, I will send

you the lady's name who started it. Are you taking the Mercola and/or son

diet seriously? I am going to be talking today by telephone to Maureen ,

the longest surviving person with SD who is apparently CURED, not in remission.

That is unheard of with SD. She wants to talk diet with me - she is

macrobiotic. As far as friends are concerned, I don't think any of them will

ever totally understand. I think they will try but it is asking a lot. I know

a lady in Billings who has SD and I hear over and over again, that she is

undependable in a social situation, that she will always be late or maybe not

show up. Nothing is ever said about the fact that she is ill. She does not

show the SD on her face so if nothing is visable, then it is not there, right?

This group will become your most intimate family besides your husband. And we

are blessed to have it!

Now on a high note, tell me where you live exactly, do you work and at what,

what does your husband do, what are your interests, are there children, pets

etc. What about your family who is not supportive? Tell me about them. That

must put stress on you, too. My father is dead, I am 53, and my little elderly

mother and my only sibling, a sister, both live in Durant, Oklahoma and they are

very poor so cannot come to see me much but they are my staunchest supporters (

along with my married daughter in Milwaukee) In fact, my mother and Kirsten, my

daughter, went with me to see Dr. Sinnott and were with me for every single IV.

That definitely is not necessary as it is not that painful. The hospital left a

shunt in my arm so that I was mobile and did not have to be continually Stuck

with a needle. It sounds as if you are really going into loving, experienced,

knowledgeable hands with Dr. Franco. How did you know to go see him? When I

went to Sennott in Iowa, I had not heard of Dr. Franco at the time. Gena, when

you are down, and I know you are right now, you must keep your eye on the

prize. You must believe in the very depths of your heart and soul that

someday, you are going to wear that dance floor out again! You have to KNOW it

inside you. You have to carry this knowledge that you are going to be well deep

inside you like a treasured secret. And smile about it. Do not hold anything

in. I have a great husband who is not a demonstrative person, very reserved,

and loves me deeply. Instead of being openly supportive, he did not want to

hear about the illness, because if we don't talk about it, it might not be there

or it might just go away. Wrong. My background is counseling. I gently

informed him I had reached the end without treatment and that I had made a

reservation and appointment to go to Iowa. Took him totally by surprise that I

did this. I carried through, kissed the two teenagers and him goodby when I

left two weeks later. Bob is extremely bright. While gone, he got on the

internet and researched and came to grips with what was ahead for me without

benefit of treatment. The sight of scleraderma is not pretty. He called every

day while I was gone and talked to me about what he was reading. Since then,

Bob is still quiet, undemonstrative (but the scare of losing me has made a

tremendous improvement in that arena) and has picked up the pace where I have

fallen behind. He will tell me to go to bed, to sleep in, to go rest a while.

I have become very precious to him. At times, when I am back to bubbly, he will

slip and forget but then I just keep talking about some of you on the net, I

talk openly to my friends, I talk openly to them about the possibility of death

if the treatment does not work, I talk openly about all the pains. I do this

because if you are, indeed friends, and you are going to remain friends, then at

some point, one of them, if not you, is going to be going through sickness and

death and my group of friends are learning to be a real support system for each

other. There is no longer any subject considered taboo. There are 12 of us but

in particular, four of us who have been together for a long while. We have gone

through divorce with one. Illness with me. They watched me being a support

system for a friend who was dying a long, lingering death (they did not know

this person) and saw the emotional leveling it did to me when she died. We all

came together and decided our friendships had to become more textured. We all

read the book, THE SAVING GRACES, and learned to rid ourselves of destructive

judgemental attitudes, to go beyond individual differences to just Woman and

Humanness. And so we have arrived to a wonderful place. I would wish this type

of friendship for you. I did not have this in my 20's or 30's as women are so

busy being competitive with each other that I am not sure they are ready for

that. So If you are in your 20's or 30's, you will get there at some point!

Well, my fingers hurt now so I will close. Just remember the prize, Gena. You

can do this. Hugs and Love to you,

Gena Castanon wrote:

> Dear ,

> I'm returning your message on this message because when I tried to return on

> the original one you sent it didn't go through at least four times. I just

> wanted to thank you so much for writing such a thoughtful and kind response

> to my plea for help and wonderment about mycoplasmas hiding. I'm sorry to

> hear you had such a recent bad flare and hope you are recovering. I am still

> horrible unfortunately. You see, the thing with fibromyalgia is-you can have

> a few average days where you don't really hurt extremely over any part of

> your body, then go and exercise and hurt absolutely everywhere. It's not

> like I only hurt in my arms one day and said-well, I guess i'll just bike

> today since my legs don't hurt. If I would do such a thing my legs would

> hurt extremely horribly for a week or more (much more than someone who just

> hasn't exercised in awhile and is getting back into the swing of things).

> Basically, exercise, other than a short and easy walk flares the whole body

> of my fibro. This makes me really sad sometimes, because like many on this

> list I'm sure, I was a very active person-in Cross Country, Track, and

> Tennis in High School. I even kept running through the beginning of my

> illness but believe that fibromyalgia is progressive and can't exercise at

> all now. I used to dance every weekend when I was younger, well, you know

> what happened to me the last time I danced. It was only 4 or 5 songs and a

> week later-I'm still paying for it. I guess the world is longing for me to

> become a academic who never sees the light of day! Well, enough of that. I

> just wanted to thank you because I'm not fortunate to have any sort of group

> of supportive friends or family. I am very fortunate to have a very

> supportive husband-but without him-I would literally be in a homeless

> shelter! On another point, do you really find diet helps you? I can have a

> few better days while eating hamburgers and french fries and have worse days

> while sticking to a vegetarian lifestyle. Well, I hope I'll be on the road

> to healing soon because I'll be going to Dr. Franco's in California (i'm in

> Texas) on March the 13th to restart the AP therapy (I had tried doxycline

> for eight months with no improvement at all). I'm hopeful but also

> frightened of the herxing. Take care of yourself. LOve and LIght, Gena

> Castanon

> Re: rheumatic OT New Zealand

>

> >From: Bob Fain <BobFain@...>

> >

> >oh....We call those Mountain Oysters here. When you said Prairie Oysters,

> I was

> >picturing the same thing from little tiny prairie dogs. Live and learn!

> You're right.

> >Everyone else can have them! LOL

> >

> >a Peden wrote:

> >

> >> From: a Peden <paula.peden@...>

> >>

> >> ,

> >> They're off of cows, or to be more exact, bulls, they're round, look

> >> sort of like oysters, you guess what part of the bull they are. As for

> >> taking a lot, as far as I'm concerned, one is too many. :}

> >> Hugs,

> >> a

> >>

> >> Bob Fain wrote:

> >> >

> >> > Are these prairie oysters off of prairy dogs? Must take a lot of

> them....

> >> >

> >>

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From: " Trickey " <jrtrick@...>

> Even hillbillies dont burn cow chips. (lessun thay havta)

LOL!!!!

GC