RE: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

[Guest guest]

HELP!

With the greatest respect, I think you have to ask yourself what kind of

marriage you have that you have to ask your husband's permission to see a doctor

when you are in need.

Is he the only one earning any money?

Mo

[Guest guest]

>> I am sure my

husband feels like he got a real dud, with me being unhealthy and expensive

to keep. <<

Gads woman, you have got the low self esteem that I used to have form hypo. If I

remember right, those vows say for better or WORSE, in SICKNESS adn in health?

Well so he is havign to see you in the worse of sickness. SO what? It is NOT

your fault and he is being selfish ot treat you this wqy. You will not find

marriage counseling here... I woudl tell you to leave. I have lived alone for

the last 12 years and LOVE it and never would demean my self liek that again.

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[Guest guest]

Yes. I stay home and homeschool. We are a Christian family on a tight

budget. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs and I have questioned it

before. I cannot get a divorce. I don't want one. I just want our family

to be happy and I am not abused, just misunderstood, I think.

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

HELP!

With the greatest respect, I think you have to ask yourself what kind of

marriage you have that you have to ask your husband's permission to see a

doctor

when you are in need.

Is he the only one earning any money?

Mo

[Guest guest]

I am in the forum and desperately need to contact Valarie, but mmaul gets

returned as it doesn't recognize her address this past week.

Could I please prevail upon you to contact her and forward my address?

Thankyou so much

Pat Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

HELP!

With the greatest respect, I think you have to ask yourself what kind of

marriage you have that you have to ask your husband's permission to see a

doctor

when you are in need.

Is he the only one earning any money?

Mo

[Guest guest]

Refusing to pay for a doctor when you need it IS abuse. BTDT but not

wiht a husband. Maybe if oyu explained ot him thta in oder for God ot do

HIS work, He gave you better doctors to do theirs.

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[Guest guest]

>

> Yes. I stay home and homeschool. We are a Christian family on a

tight

> budget. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs and I have

questioned it

> before. I cannot get a divorce. I don't want one. I just want

our family

> to be happy and I am not abused, just misunderstood, I think.

>

With all due respect, I see multiple problems here, and I don't know

if you could ever get enough adrenal support. For your adrenals to

heal, you must relieve the stress in your life. Yet your husband,

homeschooling your children, and your budget are major stressors that

you've decided not to change.

Still, on a positive note, you have a doctor who prescribes Armour,

which is more than some people here. So you just have to confirm

that your adrenals are fatigued before treatment. Have you done the

pupil test? Read articles in the files section?

If your doctor and insurance won't cover it, you can order your own

labs for about $140+ at http://canaryclub.org/ using Diagnos-Techs.

Once you have the results, you can start treatment with either

Isocort or hydrocortisone.

Barb

[Guest guest]

Ann,

Can you post them again? I didn't see your test results come over on my

computer but sometimes my Outlook drops messages. If you post again I will

take a look and tell you what I think.

Cheri

Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

I have had the saliva test for adrenals. Is that not the right test? I

posted the results today on another post.

.

[Guest guest]

I have had the saliva test for adrenals. Is that not the right test? I

posted the results today on another post.

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

>

> Yes. I stay home and homeschool. We are a Christian family on a

tight

> budget. Our marriage has had it's ups and downs and I have

questioned it

> before. I cannot get a divorce. I don't want one. I just want

our family

> to be happy and I am not abused, just misunderstood, I think.

>

With all due respect, I see multiple problems here, and I don't know

if you could ever get enough adrenal support. For your adrenals to

heal, you must relieve the stress in your life. Yet your husband,

homeschooling your children, and your budget are major stressors that

you've decided not to change.

Still, on a positive note, you have a doctor who prescribes Armour,

which is more than some people here. So you just have to confirm

that your adrenals are fatigued before treatment. Have you done the

pupil test? Read articles in the files section?

If your doctor and insurance won't cover it, you can order your own

labs for about $140+ at http://canaryclub.org/ using Diagnos-Techs.

Once you have the results, you can start treatment with either

Isocort or hydrocortisone.

Barb

[Guest guest]

I am sorry but I do not know how to contact . Can you give me some

direction?

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

I am in the forum and desperately need to contact Valarie, but mmaul gets

returned as it doesn't recognize her address this past week.

Could I please prevail upon you to contact her and forward my address?

Thankyou so much

Pat Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

HELP!

With the greatest respect, I think you have to ask yourself what kind of

marriage you have that you have to ask your husband's permission to see a

doctor

when you are in need.

Is he the only one earning any money?

Mo

[Guest guest]

WHO needs to contact me? Sorry I canl;t tell from the bunch fo emaisl

all together.

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[Guest guest]

Here it is again.

Can any of you tell me if it sounds like I might have adrenal issues? My

doc seems to be ignoring the issue (if there is one). Here are the levels:

Morning 16

Noon 9

Afternoon 7

Midnight 7

Not sleeping! Thanks!

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

I have had the saliva test for adrenals. Is that not the right test? I

posted the results today on another post.

..

[Guest guest]

Ann,

What are the ranges? We need that to figure out where you are.

Thanks,

Cheri

Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

I have had the saliva test for adrenals. Is that not the right test? I

posted the results today on another post.

.

[Guest guest]

Am 16 (13-24)

> Noon 9 (5-10)

> PM 7 (3-8)

> Midnight 7 (1-4)

What are your energy levels like at this four points of the day.

The 8 am level looks low to me, within range certainly, but I think you

would feel better if it was higher in that range, going for optimum rather than

in-range.

Val will know more about how this works but if cortisol is low first thing,

I think the adrenals struggle for the rest of the day to increase the cortisol

levels and that MAY be why your noon levels is top of the range as is your 7

pm level with your adrenals finally managing IT at midnight when it is too

late to be of any use to you!

PS taken at bedtime will lower that midnight level and should help with

sleep. PS ? Now what does it stand for? something-or-other Serine, someone else

will chip in with the necessary missing first bit of the name I am sure.

Mo

[Guest guest]

Morning 16

Noon 9

Afternoon 7

Midnight 7

Can you please post the lab ranges with these?Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I rarely post here but my first thought on this subject was what I have

personally experienced with illness in myself and the remarks of my husband and

others. I think what it is all about is that until/unless these people get ill

themselves, they will say and believe stupid things. It is " easy " for them to

give advice. I don't want your husband to get ill by any means, but IF he does

develop an illness as he gets older, he will see things " very " differently.

I think this is true about anything in life - I know I didn't have true

empathy for people who had lost a parent until I had lost both of mine. A

person just doesn't really understand deeply until they have walked a mile in

the person's shoes.

Your husband is trying his best to help - in his own way. Men want to fix

things and fix them now. Women tend to ruminate and rehash - I know I do!

Chris

" We are not human beings having a spiritual experience but spiritual beings

having a human experience. "

DON & #39;T BREED OR BUY WHILE HOMELESS PETS DIE. ADOPT FROM YOUR LOCAL ANIMAL

SHELTER.

Chinese proverb: " When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf

of bread with one, and a lily with the other. "

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[Guest guest]

Am 16 (13-24)

Noon 9 (5-10)

PM 7 (3-8)

Midnight 7 (1-4)

I think all is normal except nightime.

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

I have had the saliva test for adrenals. Is that not the right test? I

posted the results today on another post.

..

[Guest guest]

>

> Am 16 (13-24)

> Noon 9 (5-10)

> PM 7 (3-8)

> Midnight 7 (1-4)

>

> I think all is normal except nightime.

>

That's right. Your labs aren't that bad. You said you were tired.

Maybe you're just not on enough Armour. Did your doc ever test free

T3, instead of TSH? Maybe he's got you on too low a dose because of

the TSH, which is always lower with Armour.

Others will have suggestions on how to lower your midnight level. And

that is definitely why you can't sleep.

Barb

[Guest guest]

I am really not that tired, just not sleeping! Wonder why. I used to get

really tired with less than 8 hours but now I can function fine on 5.

Hmmmm.

>

>

> >

> > Am 16 (13-24)

> > Noon 9 (5-10)

> > PM 7 (3-8)

> > Midnight 7 (1-4)

> >

> > I think all is normal except nightime.

> >

> That's right. Your labs aren't that bad. You said you were tired.

> Maybe you're just not on enough Armour. Did your doc ever test free

> T3, instead of TSH? Maybe he's got you on too low a dose because of

> the TSH, which is always lower with Armour.

>

> Others will have suggestions on how to lower your midnight level. And

> that is definitely why you can't sleep.

>

> Barb

>

>

>

--

Ann

www.janesjewel.com

[Guest guest]

Phosphatidylserine

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> PS taken at bedtime will lower that midnight level and should help

with

> sleep. PS ? Now what does it stand for? something-or-other Serine,

someone else

> will chip in with the necessary missing first bit of the name I am

sure.

>

[Guest guest]

I seem to have enough energy, just not sleeping well. I get sleepy, though

if I sit down of a few minutes. Driving is hard sometimes. My eyelids get

heavy.

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

Am 16 (13-24)

> Noon 9 (5-10)

> PM 7 (3-8)

> Midnight 7 (1-4)

What are your energy levels like at this four points of the day.

The 8 am level looks low to me, within range certainly, but I think you

would feel better if it was higher in that range, going for optimum rather

than

in-range.

Val will know more about how this works but if cortisol is low first thing,

I think the adrenals struggle for the rest of the day to increase the

cortisol

levels and that MAY be why your noon levels is top of the range as is your 7

pm level with your adrenals finally managing IT at midnight when it is too

late to be of any use to you!

PS taken at bedtime will lower that midnight level and should help with

sleep. PS ? Now what does it stand for? something-or-other Serine, someone

else

will chip in with the necessary missing first bit of the name I am sure.

Mo

[Guest guest]

Am 16 (13-24)

Noon 9 (5-10)

PM 7 (3-8)

Midnight 7 (1-4)

With these labs I would recommend Phosphatidyl serine in the late evenings. This

will help lower your too high night time cortisol and tht will bring your AM up

the tad it needs to be perfect. Correcting hypo for you shoudl also help as it

is the stress of your adrenals trying ot cope wiht a too low metabolism that is

causing this.

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[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Someone else recommended trying isocort in the morning only. What do you

think? I have tried the PS in the past and it did not help. I am willing

to try it again. I have it in the cabinet. Thanks!

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

Am 16 (13-24)

Noon 9 (5-10)

PM 7 (3-8)

Midnight 7 (1-4)

With these labs I would recommend Phosphatidyl serine in the late evenings.

This will help lower your too high night time cortisol and tht will bring

your AM up the tad it needs to be perfect. Correcting hypo for you shoudl

also help as it is the stress of your adrenals trying ot cope wiht a too low

metabolism that is causing this.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://www.seewell4less.com/Valspage.htm Medical Alert Bracelets

[Guest guest]

You need at LEAST 500MG PS to be worht taking,. Yes Isocort in the AM

may also help but it would be much better to just lower the night time

cortiosl so your adrenals would not be so depleted in the AM.

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[Guest guest]

I will try it. How much isocort if the PS still does not work? What time

should I try the PS?

-- Re: Uncooperative husband. Please help!

You need at LEAST 500MG PS to be worht taking,. Yes Isocort in the AM

may also help but it would be much better to just lower the night time

cortiosl so your adrenals would not be so depleted in the AM.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

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[Guest guest]

I would take the PS abotu 7-8 PM to give it time to work before bedtime.

If after 2 weeks that doesnt; work try 2 pellets of Isocort when you eat

breakfast as oyu need ot eat with it but should take it as soon after

you wake as possible.

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