Re: (unknown)

November 27, 2000

Seth,

You may be onto something here---I'm tracking myself in this regard and

by golly! don't know if its bacterial or what but the diarrhea like

symptoms flushing and bumps seem to be connected; I've upped my intake

of acidophilus/etc liquid, and capsules...certainly can't hurt! and also

am trying to remember to be " better " about my drinking quantities of

water--which I've fallen off of lately, due to travel

Thanks!

Carol

Seth 1 wrote:

>

> Hello group.

>

> I just thought I’d describe a very interesting episode that occurred two

> weeks ago. Some people might find some of the details a little bit graphic

> and I apologise to those people, but I think it’s important to be able to

> describe the incident accurately.

>

> Basically, two weeks ago, around Monday evening, I noticed that my rosacea

> symptoms began to suddenly worsen. Not only was there increased flushing,

> but my pores had become noticeably larger and my skin had taken on what I

> can only describe as that slightly swollen, inflamed look, where the skin

> appears to be thicker and less tight than normal. It is probably simplest

> to say that it had become much more “orange-peel” in texture and a lot more

> sensitive. On Tuesday, my symptoms were still worsening and I was becoming

> quite depressed and a little scared. My skin had not been this bad in many

> years. I could not understand why my symptoms had suddenly worsened like

> this.

>

> My symptoms peaked around Tuesday evening, since on Wednesday morning my

> skin seemed to have improved a little. It was on Wednesday that the

> interesting occurrence happened. (Here comes the graphic bit!!!)

>

> Just after midday, I went to the toilet to relieve myself! I noticed that

> my faeces were very unusual in many respects. The most noticeable

> difference was that they had a very strong and foul odour. Normally, my

> faeces are almost odourless (the odour has gradually disappeared ever since

> I began taking greater care of my digestive system –it is my constant

> attention to my digestive system, that has alerted me to this whole

> incident). Secondly, my faeces had a much looser consistency than usual.

> It wasn’t diarrhoea, but it was close to that consistency and certainly not

> normal. Thirdly, I noticed that my faeces were very irritative!!

>

> Anyway, on the next day (Thursday) my skin began to improve considerably.

> Also on my next visit to the toilet, my faeces had completely returned to

> normal. By Friday, my symptoms had pretty much returned to their normal

> levels (which is generally quite good – my rosacea is fairly mild). On

> Saturday, I would even say that my skin rebounded to be possibly better than

> normal, with less noticeable symptoms than usual. Throughout the next week

> my condition has generally settled back to its usual self.

>

> Now, I don’t know what you make of this, but I think it’s a fairly safe bet

> that I must have had some sort of mild bacterial overgrowth/dysbiosis in my

> intestines. I have tried to determine what might have caused this. In my

> opinion, the most likely suspect is a dodgy kebab that I ate on the Sunday

> evening before all of this occurred. I remember watching them prepare it

> and thinking to myself that their hygiene was highly suspect - he was

> chopping raw sausages on the same work surface that he used to prepare

> cooked food and he did it with his bare hands and he did not wash them after

> he had finished. (The preparation of a kebab requires considerable handling

> of the food.)

>

> Whatever, the cause was, we will never know with absolute certainty, but I

> found the whole episode very interesting. Could there be a connection

> between my rosacea worsening and the diarrhoea-like symptoms. Also has

> anyone else had a similar occurrence happen to them? I know that some

> people have described how diarrhoea improves their symptoms, but I’m not

> really sure if diarrhoea is the best description for what I had.

>

> Anyway, all comments are welcome (as long as they are not too rude!!)

>

> All the best,

> Seth

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November 30, 2000

Rob

this sounds very interesting. Especially if you are in a pinch and have run

out of whatever product you use. My question is does the food coloring stain

your skin? Also how is it if the sunscreen and tint if it should get on your

clothes? Does it wash out well?

I am glad this works for you. Thanks for sharing your info.

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Rob

this sounds very interesting. Especially if you are in a pinch and have run

out of whatever product you use. My question is does the food coloring stain

your skin? Also how is it if the sunscreen and tint if it should get on your

clothes? Does it wash out well?

I am glad this works for you. Thanks for sharing your info.

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Rob

this sounds very interesting. Especially if you are in a pinch and have run

out of whatever product you use. My question is does the food coloring stain

your skin? Also how is it if the sunscreen and tint if it should get on your

clothes? Does it wash out well?

I am glad this works for you. Thanks for sharing your info.

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Hi a

We all have different ailments here. I am one of the few that dont have a

severe case of rosacea. My skin cannot tolerate a lot of skin care products

(make up, moisturisers, cleansers, etc). In the begining my face had a very

bad rash and it burned and itched. It was very very red. I also had hot

flushes. When I finally went to my dr. he knew right away. I was lucky

because a lot of doctors dont know what rosacea is. I had the papsules but

not bad. I know from reading the posts here alot of the group has it very

badly.

Keep reading and writing your questions. I am sure a lot of the people will

let you know what other problems there are.

I am one of the few that does not have to take antibiotics. I use metrogel

(most of the group cannot use it either) and I keep my skin very clean.I dont

wear a lot of make up but do once in a while. (I never did wear alot of make

up when I was younge either). I use moisteriser and sun screen religiously. I

spent a lot of money and time finding products that work for me. I hope you

dont have to.

Good luck,

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Hi a

We all have different ailments here. I am one of the few that dont have a

severe case of rosacea. My skin cannot tolerate a lot of skin care products

(make up, moisturisers, cleansers, etc). In the begining my face had a very

bad rash and it burned and itched. It was very very red. I also had hot

flushes. When I finally went to my dr. he knew right away. I was lucky

because a lot of doctors dont know what rosacea is. I had the papsules but

not bad. I know from reading the posts here alot of the group has it very

badly.

Keep reading and writing your questions. I am sure a lot of the people will

let you know what other problems there are.

I am one of the few that does not have to take antibiotics. I use metrogel

(most of the group cannot use it either) and I keep my skin very clean.I dont

wear a lot of make up but do once in a while. (I never did wear alot of make

up when I was younge either). I use moisteriser and sun screen religiously. I

spent a lot of money and time finding products that work for me. I hope you

dont have to.

Good luck,

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Hi a

We all have different ailments here. I am one of the few that dont have a

severe case of rosacea. My skin cannot tolerate a lot of skin care products

(make up, moisturisers, cleansers, etc). In the begining my face had a very

bad rash and it burned and itched. It was very very red. I also had hot

flushes. When I finally went to my dr. he knew right away. I was lucky

because a lot of doctors dont know what rosacea is. I had the papsules but

not bad. I know from reading the posts here alot of the group has it very

badly.

Keep reading and writing your questions. I am sure a lot of the people will

let you know what other problems there are.

I am one of the few that does not have to take antibiotics. I use metrogel

(most of the group cannot use it either) and I keep my skin very clean.I dont

wear a lot of make up but do once in a while. (I never did wear alot of make

up when I was younge either). I use moisteriser and sun screen religiously. I

spent a lot of money and time finding products that work for me. I hope you

dont have to.

Good luck,

Bobbye

November 30, 2000

Hello, my name is a and I Am from Argentina. I need to know what

aliments are bad and good for rosacea. Thank you.

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November 30, 2000

Hello, my name is a and I Am from Argentina. I need to know what

aliments are bad and good for rosacea. Thank you.

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November 30, 2000

Rob,

Sy carries the tinted " Zinc-O " cream; it's light but I notice that

it does blend into the skin tone; I can use a beige-y translucent powder

and a bronzer powder as a " blush " and this gives me good coverage. I

too, can only use the zinc on my face as a sunscreen--it's healing

rather than making me go into big lumps/bumps, which is precisely what

the heat does to me. I think your idea of using food coloring is neat;

I never thought of doing that to micronized zinc sunscreens which can

leave one looking rather ghostly! Good luck to you

Carol

hartmannr_@... wrote:

>

> I am new to the group, and have been very interested to read many of

> the messages concerning the treatment of rosacea. I am a 42 year

> old male, with redness of the face, currently with moderate redness

> with some flushing. The remainder of this post will deal with

> tinting your own sunscreen with food coloring, I checked the

> highlights page, and didn't see this mentioned, so if this has been

> discussed before, my apologies. I came up with this on my own, so if

> this happens to be published some where, I am unaware of it.

>

> When I put white sunscreen on my face, the redness is toned down, but

> it changes to more of a pink color, so what I have done is mixed

> green food coloring with the lotion, so that it is a very weak tint

> of green, and I think that this tones down the pink just a bit. I

> have been a part time artist(oil painting)for almost 15 years, and

> know from studying color theory, that if you want to tone down a

> bright red color, you just add a little green paint to it, and if you

> add equal measures of red and green paint, you get a muddy brown. So

> based on this, I just recently started to try the food coloring with

> my sunscreen.

>

> The way I do this, is to put some lotion (maybe a quarter of an

> ounce) into a small jar or bowl, take a paper clip

> and straighten out one of the ends, stick this straightened end into

> the food coloring about 1/2 inch, so that when you bring it out, it

> is very lightly coated, and then mix this with the lotion, repeat if

> necessary. You could use a toothpick or anything else, but a single

> drop would be way too much, a little bit of food coloring goes a long

> way. You will have to experiment to find the right tint of green in

> the lotion, not enough will have little effect, and too much green

> will not be good either. Once I have found the proper tint, I put a

> few ounces of lotion in a small jar, and little by little I add some

> green until it is the desired color.

>

> I'm not at home as I write this, and do not have access to my bottle

> of food coloring, I'm no expert on skin care, but I am assuming that

> the food coloring is not bad for the skin, if anyone knows

> differently, please let us know. I have used this for several weeks

> at a time, with no skin irritation, but since everyone has different

> sensitivities, those with very sensitive skin might want to try it on

> their arm first, just as you would with any new skin lotion. Since

> the amount of food coloring in the lotion is very minuscule, I don't

> think there would be a problem, but once again, if anyone knows any

> reason this is not a good idea, please let us know.

>

> I would appreciate any comments, positive or negative, or any

> improvements that you might have on this idea. I live in the

> northern half of the U.S., and haven't had to use sunscreen much

> recently, so I haven't perfected this yet. But I definitely think

> that tinted sunscreen is better than plain white.

>

> Regards

> Rob H.

>

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December 1, 2000

What are fever blisters?

December 1, 2000

Sherri,

I only take Valtrex when I have fever blisters (I begin when I feel the

first tingle), but lately that has been daily. I have had 6 fever blisters

since last Tuesday. Between the Valtrex (oral) and the Denavir (topical)

they don't last long, but another pops up as soon as the first one starts to

subside. I often wonder that if I didn't take anything and just let them

get big and gross, would I have fewer of them? But I'm getting away from

your questions. I take Valtrex when I flare, but that seems to be at least

50% of the time. I don't know if hives are caused by a virus, but fever

blisters, shingles and chicken pox are all somehow related, as I understand.

(For what it's worth, I didn't have chicken pox until I was 27.) Could

hives be related to shingles?

I haven't noticed any side effects with the Valtrex, but between roscea (I'm

not on meds for that), allergies (3 daily meds) and the near constant fever

blisters, I've got to wonder if it's all related. Also, I'm in the middle

of 3 weeks worth of antibiotics (Tequin) for a sinus infection I can't seem

to shake. And, of course, weekly doses of Diflucan, due to the antibiotics.

I'm beginning to sound like that Saturday Night Live character with all the

prescriptions!

Sorry for turning the rosacea support group into the fever blister support

group! Anyone else in the same boat?

Ruth

(unknown)

> Hello,

> I wish to thank , and Ruth for your replies.

> I have a couple of questions though: for Ruth, you mentioned you

> take Valtrex. Do you have to take it every day or just some of the times

> when you flare? The doctor told me to take it every time I break out in

> what I think looks like hives but that is every day. Do you or any one

> else know if hives is caused more by a virus and that is why I was given

> an antiviral medication (Valtrex) as compared to an antibiotic? Also

> Ruth, have you had any negative side effects from Valtrex?

> And for , you mentioned that Retin A really " dried things up

> for you " . Were you referring to the pimples or did you have really oily

> skin? My skin is very oily so I am hoping that the lower concentration

> of Retin A will take care of this.

> Thanks again for all of your help.

> Sherri

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December 1, 2000