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Re: The Nocebo Effect

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> > Hi Nate;

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> > I got told many times that I was just too smart for AA. Things like

" Don't

> question, just do it " I realize now that those statements were similar to

> the one's I'd learned as a child. The three rules of dysfunction, Don't

> talk, don't feel, don't trust.

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> > I noticed in prison that alcoholics do well in a highly structured

> environment, such as prison. I had little or no trouble with the prison

> environment. Surprisingly I actually thrived in it.

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> > Point is that I think AA tries to duplicate that structure to a degree.

> Just follow orders and you'll be fine. Don't think, do anything the group

> doesn't do or question anything. God of your understanding as long as

your

> understanding aligns with the book. The object of this appears to be a

> thinking lobotomy. I believe an actual lobotomy might be kinder for many.

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> > After 30 years of hearing I was too smart, I realized they were right.

I

> am too smart to be involved in that garbaage any longer.

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> > Loved your Nocebo piece.

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Re: The Nocebo Effect

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> > Hi Nate;

> >

> > I got told many times that I was just too smart for AA. Things like

" Don't

> question, just do it " I realize now that those statements were similar to

> the one's I'd learned as a child. The three rules of dysfunction, Don't

> talk, don't feel, don't trust.

> >

> > I noticed in prison that alcoholics do well in a highly structured

> environment, such as prison. I had little or no trouble with the prison

> environment. Surprisingly I actually thrived in it.

> >

> > Point is that I think AA tries to duplicate that structure to a degree.

> Just follow orders and you'll be fine. Don't think, do anything the group

> doesn't do or question anything. God of your understanding as long as

your

> understanding aligns with the book. The object of this appears to be a

> thinking lobotomy. I believe an actual lobotomy might be kinder for many.

> >

> > After 30 years of hearing I was too smart, I realized they were right.

I

> am too smart to be involved in that garbaage any longer.

> >

> > Loved your Nocebo piece.

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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check out the files section and links of this e-group, you may find

some things which relate to your studies and AA.

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> > I am a new member of this group and last night I was going

to bail out,

> but

> > reading on today I have decided to stay. I am a mother of

three, currently

> > studying psychology]]]

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hey all

My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

Thank you

Crystal

Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

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hey all

My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

Thank you

Crystal

Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

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hey all

My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

Thank you

Crystal

Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

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Thank you for the warm welcome. I am also sorry to hear about your loss.

Do you children? I will keep you in my prayers. I hope your hcg goes down.

Im sure that is what you are waitign for, right?? I am sorry. Can you ttc

after hcg goes down?? i hope so. good luck

pray for us.

Thanks

Crystal

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Thank you for the warm welcome. I am also sorry to hear about your loss.

Do you children? I will keep you in my prayers. I hope your hcg goes down.

Im sure that is what you are waitign for, right?? I am sorry. Can you ttc

after hcg goes down?? i hope so. good luck

pray for us.

Thanks

Crystal

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,

Thank you for the warm welcome. I am also sorry to hear about your loss.

Do you children? I will keep you in my prayers. I hope your hcg goes down.

Im sure that is what you are waitign for, right?? I am sorry. Can you ttc

after hcg goes down?? i hope so. good luck

pray for us.

Thanks

Crystal

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Crystal

Welcome. I am sorry to hear about your loss. I know it

must be scary starting to ttc because alll you can

think about is what happened before. I hope you find

this site supportive and helpful.(I sure have, I don't

know what I would of done if I wouldn't of fine this

site) I have found some hope here, there are some

happy stories here too.

I had meth inj too but ended up with rupture and er

surgery to remove rt tube. I hope to ttc soon.

(waiting for hsg)

I am so happy to hear you have a little girl. 3 years

old, such a fun age. I pray you get through this. We

are here for you.+++++++++++thoughts

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Crystal

Welcome. I am sorry to hear about your loss. I know it

must be scary starting to ttc because alll you can

think about is what happened before. I hope you find

this site supportive and helpful.(I sure have, I don't

know what I would of done if I wouldn't of fine this

site) I have found some hope here, there are some

happy stories here too.

I had meth inj too but ended up with rupture and er

surgery to remove rt tube. I hope to ttc soon.

(waiting for hsg)

I am so happy to hear you have a little girl. 3 years

old, such a fun age. I pray you get through this. We

are here for you.+++++++++++thoughts

__________________________________________________

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Crystal

Welcome. I am sorry to hear about your loss. I know it

must be scary starting to ttc because alll you can

think about is what happened before. I hope you find

this site supportive and helpful.(I sure have, I don't

know what I would of done if I wouldn't of fine this

site) I have found some hope here, there are some

happy stories here too.

I had meth inj too but ended up with rupture and er

surgery to remove rt tube. I hope to ttc soon.

(waiting for hsg)

I am so happy to hear you have a little girl. 3 years

old, such a fun age. I pray you get through this. We

are here for you.+++++++++++thoughts

__________________________________________________

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Crystal,

I am so sorry for your losses. That is a lot to handle. I am glad that you

found us and hope that you will find support here. I had an ep in October

2000 and lost the tube. There are so many women here that among us there is

always someone whose story is similar to our own.

Maggie

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Crystal,

I am so sorry for your losses. That is a lot to handle. I am glad that you

found us and hope that you will find support here. I had an ep in October

2000 and lost the tube. There are so many women here that among us there is

always someone whose story is similar to our own.

Maggie

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Crystal,

I am so sorry for your losses. That is a lot to handle. I am glad that you

found us and hope that you will find support here. I had an ep in October

2000 and lost the tube. There are so many women here that among us there is

always someone whose story is similar to our own.

Maggie

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Crystal,

WOW another Southerner. Here's a great big hug coming out of Memphis straight

to City. I can certainly understand your fears. My EP was last July

and I did lose my right tube. TTC after that whole experience (trauma) is

very frightening but I guarantee we can walk you through it. Although I hate

to see that you had reason to find this group, since you did, I'm glad you

were able to.

Dana

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Crystal,

WOW another Southerner. Here's a great big hug coming out of Memphis straight

to City. I can certainly understand your fears. My EP was last July

and I did lose my right tube. TTC after that whole experience (trauma) is

very frightening but I guarantee we can walk you through it. Although I hate

to see that you had reason to find this group, since you did, I'm glad you

were able to.

Dana

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Crystal,

WOW another Southerner. Here's a great big hug coming out of Memphis straight

to City. I can certainly understand your fears. My EP was last July

and I did lose my right tube. TTC after that whole experience (trauma) is

very frightening but I guarantee we can walk you through it. Although I hate

to see that you had reason to find this group, since you did, I'm glad you

were able to.

Dana

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Crystal, I am sorry for your losses, but you have found a wonderful support

group. If you ever need to vent or have ?'s this is a wonderful, safe place to

come to. Me and my boyfriend lost a baby on dec.7 2000 I lost part of my left

tube. I had emergency surgery because I had already ruptured. It is so

devastating to loose your baby and a tube. I have found a lot of sanity and

comfort from these women, I hope you do too.---Keri

>

> hey all

> My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

> her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

> miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

> Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

> didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

> slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

> tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

> nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

>

> Thank you

> Crystal

>

> Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

>

>

>

>

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Crystal, I am sorry for your losses, but you have found a wonderful support

group. If you ever need to vent or have ?'s this is a wonderful, safe place to

come to. Me and my boyfriend lost a baby on dec.7 2000 I lost part of my left

tube. I had emergency surgery because I had already ruptured. It is so

devastating to loose your baby and a tube. I have found a lot of sanity and

comfort from these women, I hope you do too.---Keri

>

> hey all

> My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

> her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

> miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

> Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

> didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

> slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

> tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

> nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

>

> Thank you

> Crystal

>

> Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

>

>

>

>

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Crystal, I am sorry for your losses, but you have found a wonderful support

group. If you ever need to vent or have ?'s this is a wonderful, safe place to

come to. Me and my boyfriend lost a baby on dec.7 2000 I lost part of my left

tube. I had emergency surgery because I had already ruptured. It is so

devastating to loose your baby and a tube. I have found a lot of sanity and

comfort from these women, I hope you do too.---Keri

>

> hey all

> My name is Crystal. I am new to the group. I have a little girl who is 3,

> her name is . We live in city, Tennessee. I had a

> miscarriage last april. (my due date was Dec 13) And then I had an ep in

> Sept 00. (my due date was April 21). I had to have a metho shot, but it

> didnt work, the baby continued to grow. So I had another metho shot. And it

> slowly worked.. I was still pregnant until mid-november. I didnt lose a

> tube or anything. I am now ttc again. As of This past Sunday. I am so

> nervous. And I really need some encouragement and support.

>

> Thank you

> Crystal

>

> Ps. Thanks for having me join the group. love ya

>

>

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Hey crystal,

I am glad you found your way here girl!! You will find sooooooooo much

support, understanding and love here... these women have been my saving

grace...

Sending lots of ++++++++++++ thoughts and prayers and

************************ baby dust to you!!

Love,

lisa r

T.T.F.N.

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