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> How low were her tonsils pulled down. I dont know how low mine are,

> i seem to remember hearing from my neuro that it was a half inch or

> cm, i dunno. He is wanting to do surgery but not pushing it.

>

My condolences go to 's family as well. was a very brave woman and

was doing everything possible to regain her health, it just didn't happen

soon enough.

In a prior post this is what she said about her tonsils. Keep in mind, every

one of us is very different.

My tonsils only

herniate 3-5mm down, but they are SO very fat that they take up a

tremendous amount of space, my cerebellum is forced so tightly

against my scull that it seems to have collaped my sinusis in the

back of my head,`but more then those two things is that while my

tonsils go down only 3-5mm they ALSO wrap and extend around the

brain

stem. Lots of pressure.

This is a case that many radiologists and neurosurgeons wouldn't even

consider chiari because it was 5 mm or less. This was written in a post

prior to seeing Dr. Milhorat in February:

Dx 2000 - 29 surgical pain management procedures, 143 doc

appointments, 14 doctors, 5 states.... - 2001 was not much

better.

2002 - start of sever seizures...

This is why we have to educate every walk of life about chiari. No one was

willing to help , she had been turned away by other neurosurgeons. Her

death is not in vein, I pray that the medical chiari community will wake up

and listen more to our complaints.

For new members that are terribly frightened, 's case was severe. The

risks of surgery itself were tremendous. Most of us are fortunate to have the

time to make our decisions and wait for surgery. I know pain gets to a level

that we all feel we can't live through it, but most cases do.

May fly with angels and her family find peace given time.

Kathleen

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neelyjess wrote:

> How low were her tonsils pulled down. I dont know how low mine are,

> i seem to remember hearing from my neuro that it was a half inch or

> cm, i dunno. He is wanting to do surgery but not pushing it.

>

My condolences go to 's family as well. was a very brave woman and

was doing everything possible to regain her health, it just didn't happen

soon enough.

In a prior post this is what she said about her tonsils. Keep in mind, every

one of us is very different.

My tonsils only

herniate 3-5mm down, but they are SO very fat that they take up a

tremendous amount of space, my cerebellum is forced so tightly

against my scull that it seems to have collaped my sinusis in the

back of my head,`but more then those two things is that while my

tonsils go down only 3-5mm they ALSO wrap and extend around the

brain

stem. Lots of pressure.

This is a case that many radiologists and neurosurgeons wouldn't even

consider chiari because it was 5 mm or less. This was written in a post

prior to seeing Dr. Milhorat in February:

Dx 2000 - 29 surgical pain management procedures, 143 doc

appointments, 14 doctors, 5 states.... - 2001 was not much

better.

2002 - start of sever seizures...

This is why we have to educate every walk of life about chiari. No one was

willing to help , she had been turned away by other neurosurgeons. Her

death is not in vein, I pray that the medical chiari community will wake up

and listen more to our complaints.

For new members that are terribly frightened, 's case was severe. The

risks of surgery itself were tremendous. Most of us are fortunate to have the

time to make our decisions and wait for surgery. I know pain gets to a level

that we all feel we can't live through it, but most cases do.

May fly with angels and her family find peace given time.

Kathleen

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Michele,

1. Alert and oriented times three is normal and you will hear this a lot, some

docs will also say it as alert and oriented to person, place and time. Some

docs will also say oriented times four, which then includes the situation.

2 & 3. I'm not sure what your doc is doing with this carotid exam. Could he

actually be saying Doppler exam? Just a thought. If it is carotid exam, then

is this a vascular surgeon who does a lot of carotid surgeries? Sorry, just

confused by this one as I don't usually have doctors dictate carotid as a

separate exam, usually just mention it as part of the neck exam.

4. Inguinal herniorrhaphy. Some docs say inguinal herniorrhaphy and others say

inguinal hernia repair, or at least that's been my experience. Then change

molex to Marlex and you will have the rest of it okay.

That's my input, Margaret

>>> " Dubbelde " 02/01/03 06:06PM >>>

First day on the job and oh boy!! Here are a few s/l below....

1. GENERAL: General appearance alert and oriented s/l times 3 in no apparent

distress. ***does that make sense?

2. ABDOMEN: Abdomen is soft, nondistended, nontender. No abdominal wall

tenderness identified. s/l Full carotid examination was essentially

unremarkable.

3. CAROTID EXAM: No signs identified. okay, this is below the extremities

header, so should I have it in its own heading or include it under the abdomen

heading?

4. Recommendation is inguinal hernia s/l oriphy. Doc dictates this later......

below:

The patient was informed of advancement in hernia s/l oriphy including primary

repairs, s/l molex mesh, molex repairs with open repairs with molex mesh, and

also laparoscopic repairs.

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Michele,

1. Alert and oriented times three is normal and you will hear this a lot, some

docs will also say it as alert and oriented to person, place and time. Some

docs will also say oriented times four, which then includes the situation.

2 & 3. I'm not sure what your doc is doing with this carotid exam. Could he

actually be saying Doppler exam? Just a thought. If it is carotid exam, then

is this a vascular surgeon who does a lot of carotid surgeries? Sorry, just

confused by this one as I don't usually have doctors dictate carotid as a

separate exam, usually just mention it as part of the neck exam.

4. Inguinal herniorrhaphy. Some docs say inguinal herniorrhaphy and others say

inguinal hernia repair, or at least that's been my experience. Then change

molex to Marlex and you will have the rest of it okay.

That's my input, Margaret

>>> " Dubbelde " 02/01/03 06:06PM >>>

First day on the job and oh boy!! Here are a few s/l below....

1. GENERAL: General appearance alert and oriented s/l times 3 in no apparent

distress. ***does that make sense?

2. ABDOMEN: Abdomen is soft, nondistended, nontender. No abdominal wall

tenderness identified. s/l Full carotid examination was essentially

unremarkable.

3. CAROTID EXAM: No signs identified. okay, this is below the extremities

header, so should I have it in its own heading or include it under the abdomen

heading?

4. Recommendation is inguinal hernia s/l oriphy. Doc dictates this later......

below:

The patient was informed of advancement in hernia s/l oriphy including primary

repairs, s/l molex mesh, molex repairs with open repairs with molex mesh, and

also laparoscopic repairs.

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Michele,

1. Alert and oriented times three is normal and you will hear this a lot, some

docs will also say it as alert and oriented to person, place and time. Some

docs will also say oriented times four, which then includes the situation.

2 & 3. I'm not sure what your doc is doing with this carotid exam. Could he

actually be saying Doppler exam? Just a thought. If it is carotid exam, then

is this a vascular surgeon who does a lot of carotid surgeries? Sorry, just

confused by this one as I don't usually have doctors dictate carotid as a

separate exam, usually just mention it as part of the neck exam.

4. Inguinal herniorrhaphy. Some docs say inguinal herniorrhaphy and others say

inguinal hernia repair, or at least that's been my experience. Then change

molex to Marlex and you will have the rest of it okay.

That's my input, Margaret

>>> " Dubbelde " 02/01/03 06:06PM >>>

First day on the job and oh boy!! Here are a few s/l below....

1. GENERAL: General appearance alert and oriented s/l times 3 in no apparent

distress. ***does that make sense?

2. ABDOMEN: Abdomen is soft, nondistended, nontender. No abdominal wall

tenderness identified. s/l Full carotid examination was essentially

unremarkable.

3. CAROTID EXAM: No signs identified. okay, this is below the extremities

header, so should I have it in its own heading or include it under the abdomen

heading?

4. Recommendation is inguinal hernia s/l oriphy. Doc dictates this later......

below:

The patient was informed of advancement in hernia s/l oriphy including primary

repairs, s/l molex mesh, molex repairs with open repairs with molex mesh, and

also laparoscopic repairs.

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Shoshannah,

I'm not sure if has been researched(probably not), but I do notice that a lot

of us complain about being shaky and weak sometimes and also having low blood

sugar...so maybe we could assume that post WLS patients do have a tendency to

have low blood sugar especially while pregnant...like when I went to have my

fasting blood sugar a few weeks ago, my blood sugar was 67 and I know that is

low for me...so...? just my 2 cents.. :)

Jana

RNY 04/02/02

EDD 04/04/03 Isaiah Riley

Pre-op wt 258

Current wt 155

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Hiya Sis ! The thing about using the insteads after BD is to help keep the sperm

up closer to the cervix for some amount of time. Much better to keep them in

there and give them a really good chance instead of cleanin up after the

misguided swimmers ! If I remember correctly you are supposed to keep it in

there for an hour after BD!

Jess

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QUESTIONS

Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who was

talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately. I think

it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what Clomid Costs

without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not wanting one yet but

want to know if I need to save. Thanks

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Hiya Sis ! The thing about using the insteads after BD is to help keep the sperm

up closer to the cervix for some amount of time. Much better to keep them in

there and give them a really good chance instead of cleanin up after the

misguided swimmers ! If I remember correctly you are supposed to keep it in

there for an hour after BD!

Jess

Signature made by Lillady Click the image to request yours today :)

QUESTIONS

Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who was

talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately. I think

it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what Clomid Costs

without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not wanting one yet but

want to know if I need to save. Thanks

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Hiya Sis ! The thing about using the insteads after BD is to help keep the sperm

up closer to the cervix for some amount of time. Much better to keep them in

there and give them a really good chance instead of cleanin up after the

misguided swimmers ! If I remember correctly you are supposed to keep it in

there for an hour after BD!

Jess

Signature made by Lillady Click the image to request yours today :)

QUESTIONS

Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who was

talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately. I think

it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what Clomid Costs

without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not wanting one yet but

want to know if I need to save. Thanks

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Thanks that was my ?????? I knew the why not the How long. I left it there

over night as I was asleep an hour later but wondered for Furture referance

" FRIENDS ARE ANGELS WHO LIFT US TO OUR FEET WHEN OUR WINGS HAVE

TROUBLE REMEMBERING HOW TO FLY " .

-31

DH- Rick-31

DS- Ricky 12

DD-Brittany 11

DD- Clarissa 10

FD- le 6 Presently not with us:-(

TL- 12/92

TR- Dr. Levin 3/13/03

Left 6.5 cm

Right 6cm

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>

> Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who

was talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately.

I think it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what

Clomid Costs without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not

wanting one yet but want to know if I need to save. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks that was my ?????? I knew the why not the How long. I left it there

over night as I was asleep an hour later but wondered for Furture referance

" FRIENDS ARE ANGELS WHO LIFT US TO OUR FEET WHEN OUR WINGS HAVE

TROUBLE REMEMBERING HOW TO FLY " .

-31

DH- Rick-31

DS- Ricky 12

DD-Brittany 11

DD- Clarissa 10

FD- le 6 Presently not with us:-(

TL- 12/92

TR- Dr. Levin 3/13/03

Left 6.5 cm

Right 6cm

QUESTIONS

>

>

> Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who

was talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately.

I think it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what

Clomid Costs without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not

wanting one yet but want to know if I need to save. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey ! I wouldn't think that over night would hurt anything either. They

are meant to stay in for up to 12 hours when you use them for AF.

:)

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>

> Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who

was talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately.

I think it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what

Clomid Costs without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not

wanting one yet but want to know if I need to save. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey ! I wouldn't think that over night would hurt anything either. They

are meant to stay in for up to 12 hours when you use them for AF.

:)

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>

>

> Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who

was talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately.

I think it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what

Clomid Costs without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not

wanting one yet but want to know if I need to save. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey ! I wouldn't think that over night would hurt anything either. They

are meant to stay in for up to 12 hours when you use them for AF.

:)

QUESTIONS

>

>

> Just a few thing.First off welcome newbies... Second will the person who

was talking about using the instead after intercourse contact me privately.

I think it was Judy ??? and one last thing. Also can anyone tell me what

Clomid Costs without insurance and If Insurance covers a HSG????? Not

wanting one yet but want to know if I need to save. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Where does your brother in law live? There are several surgeons who

specialize in avoiding colostomies. Make sure your bil gets a second

or third opinion, because it could be a matter of finding the right

surgeon. Make sure he goes to a colorectal specialist preferably at a

major cancer center for the surgery. Look on the links list here for

some doctors who specialize.

Good luck. :)

>

> Well, as most of you know my brother in law was diagnosed with stage

> 4 rectal cancer in July. He has finished his 6 weeks of radiation

> and 24/7 chemo. He is in the 4th week of his " break " . His scans

> (CT & PET) came back with no visable eveidence of cancer. It was in

> his liver, peratinuium, and nodes. The drs. are all amazed. He met

> with his surgeon today and he recommends removing the entire rectum

> and said he had a 50% chance of a colostomy. In my mind I would

> take the odds if that gave me better odds on beating this thing. He

> wants to get another opinion and didn't make an appointment with the

> surgeon for another month. I know they will start up chemo again

> soon. What do you guys think about this? What about the

> colostomy...does anyone here have one? This would be a life long

> change but, could prolong or even save his life. DOes anyone have

> any exeprience with this?

>

> Thanks a million...you guys are great!

> Susie

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Where does your brother in law live? There are several surgeons who

specialize in avoiding colostomies. Make sure your bil gets a second

or third opinion, because it could be a matter of finding the right

surgeon. Make sure he goes to a colorectal specialist preferably at a

major cancer center for the surgery. Look on the links list here for

some doctors who specialize.

Good luck. :)

>

> Well, as most of you know my brother in law was diagnosed with stage

> 4 rectal cancer in July. He has finished his 6 weeks of radiation

> and 24/7 chemo. He is in the 4th week of his " break " . His scans

> (CT & PET) came back with no visable eveidence of cancer. It was in

> his liver, peratinuium, and nodes. The drs. are all amazed. He met

> with his surgeon today and he recommends removing the entire rectum

> and said he had a 50% chance of a colostomy. In my mind I would

> take the odds if that gave me better odds on beating this thing. He

> wants to get another opinion and didn't make an appointment with the

> surgeon for another month. I know they will start up chemo again

> soon. What do you guys think about this? What about the

> colostomy...does anyone here have one? This would be a life long

> change but, could prolong or even save his life. DOes anyone have

> any exeprience with this?

>

> Thanks a million...you guys are great!

> Susie

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Hi Barbara;

There are no obvious symptoms of osteoporosis, and it usually only

manifests itself with a bone fracture:

http://www.hormone.org/learn/osteo_2.html

" Osteoporosis is a " silent " disease caused by a loss of bone mass that

happens without your knowing it. The first symptom of osteoporosis is

a fracture, a break in the bone, which may cause serious health risks.

Many women and men go through life without knowing they have severe

bone loss until they break their hip, spine, or wrist and experience

the consequences of an otherwise " silent " disease. "

It's not a bad idea to have a Dexascan, because, as others have

mentioned, osteoporosis can be a common complication of PSC.

Best regards,

Dave

(father of (20); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03)

>

> Another question: I am also having a dexiscan this week because of

> continuing pain. Does anyone know the sysptoms of osteoporsis?

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Hi Barbara;

There are no obvious symptoms of osteoporosis, and it usually only

manifests itself with a bone fracture:

http://www.hormone.org/learn/osteo_2.html

" Osteoporosis is a " silent " disease caused by a loss of bone mass that

happens without your knowing it. The first symptom of osteoporosis is

a fracture, a break in the bone, which may cause serious health risks.

Many women and men go through life without knowing they have severe

bone loss until they break their hip, spine, or wrist and experience

the consequences of an otherwise " silent " disease. "

It's not a bad idea to have a Dexascan, because, as others have

mentioned, osteoporosis can be a common complication of PSC.

Best regards,

Dave

(father of (20); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03)

>

> Another question: I am also having a dexiscan this week because of

> continuing pain. Does anyone know the sysptoms of osteoporsis?

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Hi Barbara;

There are no obvious symptoms of osteoporosis, and it usually only

manifests itself with a bone fracture:

http://www.hormone.org/learn/osteo_2.html

" Osteoporosis is a " silent " disease caused by a loss of bone mass that

happens without your knowing it. The first symptom of osteoporosis is

a fracture, a break in the bone, which may cause serious health risks.

Many women and men go through life without knowing they have severe

bone loss until they break their hip, spine, or wrist and experience

the consequences of an otherwise " silent " disease. "

It's not a bad idea to have a Dexascan, because, as others have

mentioned, osteoporosis can be a common complication of PSC.

Best regards,

Dave

(father of (20); PSC 07/03; UC 08/03)

>

> Another question: I am also having a dexiscan this week because of

> continuing pain. Does anyone know the sysptoms of osteoporsis?

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