Re: Diet: theory for some of it

[Guest guest]

why is dairy so terrible for our guts? I don't have any problems with dairy,

not that I eat much of it - maybe a cup of cottage cheese now and then. A

GP suggested that I might not be getting enough calcium because of a nerve

twitching problem I was having in my temple area and suggested 3 glasses of

skim milk per day (I just took 1000mg of Calcium instead). We shall see -

I know dairy is often pinpointed as a culprit with RA aches and pains, but I

wonder how many of us here can trace our pain to that?

Curious again,

Mark

rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

> From: SEG14@...

>

> Diet is very important, and one specific reason

> relates to our gut. Our guts are screwed up, so we have to have diets

that

> alleviate that. For example, dairy is terrible for our gut and we

shouldn't

> have sugar because (aside from it being empty calories) it promotes

> yeast/candida which none of us need since we're all at risk already due to

> the antibiotics.

> Fish is good because certain types have omega 3 fatty acids which are

> anti-inflammatory.

> We should watch fats and oils because when they're heated they become

> pro-inflammatory.l

> Some people have to eliminate other foods due to allergies.

> It it true, however, that as the Ap reduces the sensitivity of our systems

we

> can " Cheat " more, or even eat more of healthy foods that we may have

reacted

> too.

> After following very strict diets, I am convinced of their worth, however

I

> now allow myself more flexibility. I truly believe that diet has kept me

as

> well as I have been and that the more we follow a healthy, meat-free

(except

> organic meat), fat-free (except olive oil and a tad or organic butter to

cook

> in) , dairy-free, and sugar-free diet the better off we'll all be. We can

> still eat great stuff if we're creative and shop in well-supplied health

food

> storews (tho they are pricey!).

> By the way, I just got a great Stevia powder that works great! I'll give

> anyone name if they want.

> Bon appetit!

>

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

At 01:31 PM 09/05/1999 -0400, you wrote:

>From: MHOLMES@... (HOLMES, MARK T.)

>

>why is dairy so terrible for our guts? I don't have any problems with dairy,

>not that I eat much of it - maybe a cup of cottage cheese now and then.

My understanding is that there is a theory around that humans to varying

degrees become lactose intolerant as they grow older. Lactose is the form

of sugar in dairy products. Although according to Dr.Atkins of the Atkins

Diet Revolution that I personally follow most cheeses have had the lactose

fermented out of them and cream is pedominantly fat so these dairy products

are okay if I understand his book correctly.

Vermithrax

AS 19 yrs, AP 25 months

[Guest guest]

At 12:55 PM 09/05/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>From: SEG14@...

>By the way, I just got a great Stevia powder that works great! I'll give

>anyone name if they want.

:

Could you please post or email me the source(and the price)?

Regards,

Vermithrax

AS 19 yrs,AP 25 months

[Guest guest]

I don't have any problem with dairy and even Dr Mercola says raw milk is

fine. I have a diary goat and my only problem is counting the carbs

since I'm on the Protien Power diet.

" HOLMES, MARK T. " wrote:

>

> From: MHOLMES@... (HOLMES, MARK T.)

>

> why is dairy so terrible for our guts? I don't have any problems with dairy,

> not that I eat much of it - maybe a cup of cottage cheese now and then. A

> GP suggested that I might not be getting enough calcium because of a nerve

> twitching problem I was having in my temple area and suggested 3 glasses of

> skim milk per day (I just took 1000mg of Calcium instead). We shall see -

> I know dairy is often pinpointed as a culprit with RA aches and pains, but I

> wonder how many of us here can trace our pain to that?

>

> Curious again,

>

> Mark

>

> rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

>

> > From: SEG14@...

> >

> > Diet is very important, and one specific reason

> > relates to our gut. Our guts are screwed up, so we have to have diets

> that

> > alleviate that. For example, dairy is terrible for our gut and we

> shouldn't

> > have sugar because (aside from it being empty calories) it promotes

> > yeast/candida which none of us need since we're all at risk already due to

> > the antibiotics.

> > Fish is good because certain types have omega 3 fatty acids which are

> > anti-inflammatory.

> > We should watch fats and oils because when they're heated they become

> > pro-inflammatory.l

> > Some people have to eliminate other foods due to allergies.

> > It it true, however, that as the Ap reduces the sensitivity of our systems

> we

> > can " Cheat " more, or even eat more of healthy foods that we may have

> reacted

> > too.

> > After following very strict diets, I am convinced of their worth, however

> I

> > now allow myself more flexibility. I truly believe that diet has kept me

> as

> > well as I have been and that the more we follow a healthy, meat-free

> (except

> > organic meat), fat-free (except olive oil and a tad or organic butter to

> cook

> > in) , dairy-free, and sugar-free diet the better off we'll all be. We can

> > still eat great stuff if we're creative and shop in well-supplied health

> food

> > storews (tho they are pricey!).

> > By the way, I just got a great Stevia powder that works great! I'll give

> > anyone name if they want.

> > Bon appetit!

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

From Mado:

Sugar cravings are sometime a sign of candida albicans (yeast). Try

eliminating yeast foods and see what happens. Don't forget that most

condiments contain yeast i.e. mustard, mayo., etc.

Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

>From: Sjlane99@...

>

>I drink whole milk from a local dairy farm (store stuff used to cause a

flare

>for what ever reason). It got rid of my chocolate cravings that I just

>couldn't kick! So I was lacking something. I have RA and milk is not one of

>my allergens. It was the only calcium I was getting until I found liquid

>calcium that hasn't caused joint buildup problems (unlike the pill form

>calcium). Now if only I could find what is causing my sugar cravings...

> L

>

>In a message dated 99-09-05 13:32:31 EDT, you write:

>

><<

> why is dairy so terrible for our guts? I don't have any problems with

dairy,

> not that I eat much of it - maybe a cup of cottage cheese now and then. A

> GP suggested that I might not be getting enough calcium because of a nerve

> twitching problem I was having in my temple area and suggested 3 glasses

of

> skim milk per day (I just took 1000mg of Calcium instead). We shall

see -

> I know dairy is often pinpointed as a culprit with RA aches and pains, but

I

> wonder how many of us here can trace our pain to that?

>

> Curious again,

>

> Mark

>

> >>

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

At 09:42 AM 09/07/1999 -0400, you wrote:

> Hi all, Try it, you'll like it! a Carnes Hi

>...........my sugar craving ususally takes the form of chocolate -

>and it's easy to let it get out of control. My kinesiologist tested me

>for magnesium, and found me lacking..........seems chocolate is loaded

>with magnesium, ergo the craving. Now I only crave sweets on very rare

>occasions, and it's real easy to control........ Be well,

>

Hmm...

My Eudora mail program chopped off your reply because of it being a

different font, I guess... Anyway, as for chocolate with sugar substitutes

try out the Atkins Diet Revolution Cookbook. Great recipes for making

truffles, chocolate mint pie with an almond crust, chocolate fudge as well

as chocolate ice cream (using whipping cream BION!). You may remember the

recipe for what I consider to be the world's greatest cup of hot chocolate

(Atkins' Diet Revolution Style) I posted about a week ago in reply to

someone in this thread if my memory serves me right.

Vermithrax

AS 19 yrs, AP 25 months

[Guest guest]

Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

> From: " mahay " <mahay@...>

>

> From Mado:

>

> Sugar cravings are sometime a sign of candida albicans (yeast). Try

> eliminating yeast foods and see what happens. Don't forget that most

> condiments contain yeast i.e. mustard, mayo., etc.

Hi, not to be picky, but I think the logic needs to be reversed on this one.

Sugar feeds yeast. Cut out the sugar and the carbs and the yeast problem

will go away, including the craving for sugar. I don't know if yeast feeds

yeast infections, but I guess most yeast we eat is found in bread which is

certainly a carbohydrate.

a Carnes

[Guest guest]

From Mado:

It must have been a foggy day in good old Ottawa - I got my info backward -

thanks a

Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

>From: a Carnes <paulajeanne@...>

>

>

> Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

>

>

>> From: " mahay " <mahay@...>

>>

>> From Mado:

>>

>> Sugar cravings are sometime a sign of candida albicans (yeast). Try

>> eliminating yeast foods and see what happens. Don't forget that most

>> condiments contain yeast i.e. mustard, mayo., etc.

>

>Hi, not to be picky, but I think the logic needs to be reversed on this

one.

>Sugar feeds yeast. Cut out the sugar and the carbs and the yeast problem

>will go away, including the craving for sugar. I don't know if yeast feeds

>yeast infections, but I guess most yeast we eat is found in bread which is

>certainly a carbohydrate.

>a Carnes

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Try chromium picolinate to assuage the sugar cravings. Take as directed on

labels... if you get a metallic taste in the mouth, reduce dosage or halt.

It's a food supp widely available.

Regards,

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Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

> From: Sjlane99@...

>

> I drink whole milk from a local dairy farm (store stuff used to cause a

flare

> for what ever reason). It got rid of my chocolate cravings that I just

> couldn't kick! So I was lacking something. I have RA and milk is not one

of

> my allergens. It was the only calcium I was getting until I found liquid

> calcium that hasn't caused joint buildup problems (unlike the pill form

> calcium). Now if only I could find what is causing my sugar cravings...

> L

>

> In a message dated 99-09-05 13:32:31 EDT, you write:

>

> <<

> why is dairy so terrible for our guts? I don't have any problems with

dairy,

> not that I eat much of it - maybe a cup of cottage cheese now and then.

A

> GP suggested that I might not be getting enough calcium because of a

nerve

> twitching problem I was having in my temple area and suggested 3 glasses

of

> skim milk per day (I just took 1000mg of Calcium instead). We shall

see -

> I know dairy is often pinpointed as a culprit with RA aches and pains,

but I

> wonder how many of us here can trace our pain to that?

>

> Curious again,

>

> Mark

>

> >>

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mark,

I had a friend who had a nutrition practice, and dairy is a no-no. It has to

do with gut and digestibility. I know if you have the runs, dairy will

exacerbate it, so it must be related to the balance of good and bad bacteria.

I should research it more; all I know is that most nutritionists advocate

limiting it.

I DO have a lot of facts, but no theories to back them up! Bad combination :

)

[Guest guest]

Re: rheumatic Diet: theory for some of it

>From: SEG14@...

>

>Mark,

>I had a friend who had a nutrition practice, and dairy is a no-no. It has to

>do with gut and digestibility. I know if you have the runs, dairy will

>exacerbate it, so it must be related to the balance of good and bad bacteria.

> I should research it more; all I know is that most nutritionists advocate

>limiting it.

>I DO have a lot of facts, but no theories to back them up! Bad combination :

>)

>

Hi .........my kinesiologist encourages me to eat cheese (not the same as

drinking milk).........says my body likes it.........go figure.

Be well,

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