Re: high aluminum related to mercury?

[Guest guest]

Hi Glenn and Nadia,

> All together we think we got a " high probability " for mercury. Do

> you agree ?

I agree, based on everything that you have written here.

>We think

> that chelation with DMSA is appropriate, especially for lead. And >if

> there's mercury it has to show up in the urine tests.

When chelating with DMSA a poisoned individual will have symptoms at a

certain dose of DMSA. If the dose is too low, there will be no

symptoms. If the dose is too high the symptoms will be too much.

Those symptoms are diagnostic.

Urine tests are expensive and I don't really think that they would

help much.

At some point ALA would be needed to remove mercury from the brain.

Are you aware of the autism mercury group:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

> We read that you can chelate aluminum with malic acid. Wich >protocol

> do you use ? Is this like ALA, a few days every 3 hours and the >same

> quantity in mg?

I don't really know. If you don't get an answer here, try autism mercury.

Regards

J

>

> Hi list,

>

> We are the parents of Staf, 8 years old , and diagnosed as " highly

> functional in the autisme spectrum " . He is now on the GF/CF diet &

> supplements, enzymes and probiotics and we see some improvements:

> motor skills and good mood.

> We did a hair test (for the results, see below) and were trying to

> do a right interpretation with Andy Cutlers book Hair Test

> Interpretation. The counting rules don't apply for his essential

> elements. But we found " indirect clues " . Page 87, Andy

> states " Alumnium may become elevated due to mercury induced

> derangement of mineral transport before the test meets a counting

> rule. Some suspicion regarding the prescence of mercury is

> appropriate in a test with elevated alumnium, especially if

> accompanied by one or more of antimony, nickel, tin or titanium. "

> There are three other reasons we think mercury is the problem

> (besides the high aluminum and lead)

> 1) When he is exited, he flaps with his hands and runs in

> patterns. There are other behaviors like extremely shy, no or less

> eye contact, etc … which we think are typical mercury induced.

> 2) He had many vaccinations with mercury. His mother has 7

> amalgam fillings. The last two vaccines, on the ages of 4,5 and 6

> year, contained aluminumhydroxide. Around this period he had the

> most clearly transition in " autisme spectrum " we believe, due to

> synergetic effects between the neurotoxins. Could it be that the

> high reading for aluminum in the hair test is from those vaccines 2

> years ago ? We als found out that there is lead paint used in our

> house and he he probably swallowed some paintchips when he was

> younger. We did a test on this paint recently and find out it

> contained a lot of lead.

> 3) Mercury runs in the family. I (his father) am currently

> recovering from amalgam illness (again with the help of Andy Cutlers

> book Amalgam Illness) and my mother (grandmother from Staf) is

> suffering from schizophrenia, wich first occurred shortly after her

> first amalgam fillings on the age of 30 years…

>

> All together we think we got a " high probability " for mercury. Do

> you agree ?

> We are currently in counseling with a toxicologue but the new

> paradigma on autism children is still not known in Belgium. We think

> that chelation with DMSA is appropriate, especially for lead. And if

> there's mercury it has to show up in the urine tests.

> We read that you can chelate aluminum with malic acid. Wich protocol

> do you use ? Is this like ALA, a few days every 3 hours and the same

> quantity in mg?

>

> I hope you can give us some advice on how we can help our son to

> become again the wonderful kid he was as a toddler.

> We also include the results of his hair test.

>

> Glenn & Nadia

>

> TOXIC RESULT for Staf, 8 yo, male

> REFERENCE PERCENTILE ELEMENTS µg/g RANGE 68th 95th

> Aluminum 20 < 8.0 yellow, almost red

> Antimony 0.032 < 0.066 green

> Arsenic 0.042 < 0.080 green

> Beryllium 0.01 < 0.020 no trace of it

> Bismuth 0.024 < 0.12 green

> Cadmium 0.028 < 0.15 green

> Lead 1.2 < 1.0 yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> Mercury 0.10 < 0.40 green

> Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no trace of it

> Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no trace of it

> Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no trace of it

> Uranium 0.005 < 0.060 green

> Nickel 0.24 < 0.40 green

> Silver 0.20 < 0.13 yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> Tin 0.16 < 0.30 green

> Titanium 0.33 < 1.0 green

> Total Toxic Representation yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> RESULT REFERENCE PERCENTILE

> ELEMENTS µg/g RANGE 2.5th 16th 50th 84th 97.5th

> Calcium 349 160- 500 green to the left

> Magnesium 18 12- 50 green to the left

> Sodium 66 12- 90 green to the right

> Potassium 65 10- 40 yellow (84th percentile)

> Copper 8.9 9.0- 30 green (almost 16th percentile)

> Zinc 110 110- 190 green (almost 16th percentile)

> Manganese 0.18 0.18- 0.60 green (almost 16th percentile)

> Chromium 0.64 0.23- 0.50 yellow (cc. 90th percentile)

> Vanadium 0.075 0.025- 0.10 green to the right

> Molybdenum 0.063 0.040- 0.089 green to the right

> Boron 1.1 0.50- 3.5 green to the left

> Iodine 0.58 0.25- 1.3 white to the right

> Lithium 0.011 0.007- 0.023 white to the right

> Phosphorus 126 160- 250 yellow, almost to the 2.5th

> Selenium 0.65 0.95- 1.7 yellow, almost to the 2.5th

> Strontium 2.7 0.21- 2.1 yellow to the right

> Sulfur 46400 45500- 53000 green to the left

> Barium 0.52 0.19- 1.6 white to the left

> Cobalt 0.017 0.013- 0.035 green to the left

> Iron 16 6.0- 17 green to the right

> Germanium 0.040 0.045- 0.065 yellow to the left

> Rubidium 0.047 0.008- 0.080 green to the right

> Zirconium 0.089 0.060- 0.70 yellow to the left

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

we started the first round with 33mg, is that too low? We were thinking of

gradually bringing the dose up per round. Maybe during a round, we already

can bring the dose up?

tx for your reply.

Nadia

2006/1/4, lindajaytee :

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> When chelating with DMSA a poisoned individual will have symptoms at a

> certain dose of DMSA. If the dose is too low, there will be no

> symptoms. If the dose is too high the symptoms will be too much.

> Those symptoms are diagnostic.

>

> Urine tests are expensive and I don't really think that they would

> help much.

>

> At some point ALA would be needed to remove mercury from the brain.

>

> Are you aware of the autism mercury group:

>

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/

>

>

> > We read that you can chelate aluminum with malic acid. Wich >protocol

> > do you use ? Is this like ALA, a few days every 3 hours and the >same

> > quantity in mg?

>

>

> I don't really know. If you don't get an answer here, try autism mercury.

>

> Regards

> J

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi list,

> >

> > We are the parents of Staf, 8 years old , and diagnosed as " highly

> > functional in the autisme spectrum " . He is now on the GF/CF diet &

> > supplements, enzymes and probiotics and we see some improvements:

> > motor skills and good mood.

> > We did a hair test (for the results, see below) and were trying to

> > do a right interpretation with Andy Cutlers book Hair Test

> > Interpretation. The counting rules don't apply for his essential

> > elements. But we found " indirect clues " . Page 87, Andy

> > states " Alumnium may become elevated due to mercury induced

> > derangement of mineral transport before the test meets a counting

> > rule. Some suspicion regarding the prescence of mercury is

> > appropriate in a test with elevated alumnium, especially if

> > accompanied by one or more of antimony, nickel, tin or titanium. "

> > There are three other reasons we think mercury is the problem

> > (besides the high aluminum and lead)

> > 1) When he is exited, he flaps with his hands and runs in

> > patterns. There are other behaviors like extremely shy, no or less

> > eye contact, etc … which we think are typical mercury induced.

> > 2) He had many vaccinations with mercury. His mother has 7

> > amalgam fillings. The last two vaccines, on the ages of 4,5 and 6

> > year, contained aluminumhydroxide. Around this period he had the

> > most clearly transition in " autisme spectrum " we believe, due to

> > synergetic effects between the neurotoxins. Could it be that the

> > high reading for aluminum in the hair test is from those vaccines 2

> > years ago ? We als found out that there is lead paint used in our

> > house and he he probably swallowed some paintchips when he was

> > younger. We did a test on this paint recently and find out it

> > contained a lot of lead.

> > 3) Mercury runs in the family. I (his father) am currently

> > recovering from amalgam illness (again with the help of Andy Cutlers

> > book Amalgam Illness) and my mother (grandmother from Staf) is

> > suffering from schizophrenia, wich first occurred shortly after her

> > first amalgam fillings on the age of 30 years…

> >

> > All together we think we got a " high probability " for mercury. Do

> > you agree ?

> > We are currently in counseling with a toxicologue but the new

> > paradigma on autism children is still not known in Belgium. We think

> > that chelation with DMSA is appropriate, especially for lead. And if

> > there's mercury it has to show up in the urine tests.

> > We read that you can chelate aluminum with malic acid. Wich protocol

> > do you use ? Is this like ALA, a few days every 3 hours and the same

> > quantity in mg?

> >

> > I hope you can give us some advice on how we can help our son to

> > become again the wonderful kid he was as a toddler.

> > We also include the results of his hair test.

> >

> > Glenn & Nadia

> >

> > TOXIC RESULT for Staf, 8 yo, male

> > REFERENCE PERCENTILE ELEMENTS µg/g RANGE 68th 95th

> > Aluminum 20 < 8.0 yellow, almost red

> > Antimony 0.032 < 0.066 green

> > Arsenic 0.042 < 0.080 green

> > Beryllium 0.01 < 0.020 no trace of it

> > Bismuth 0.024 < 0.12 green

> > Cadmium 0.028 < 0.15 green

> > Lead 1.2 < 1.0 yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> > Mercury 0.10 < 0.40 green

> > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no trace of it

> > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no trace of it

> > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 no trace of it

> > Uranium 0.005 < 0.060 green

> > Nickel 0.24 < 0.40 green

> > Silver 0.20 < 0.13 yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> > Tin 0.16 < 0.30 green

> > Titanium 0.33 < 1.0 green

> > Total Toxic Representation yellow (just over 68th percentile)

> > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> > RESULT REFERENCE PERCENTILE

> > ELEMENTS µg/g RANGE 2.5th 16th 50th 84th 97.5th

> > Calcium 349 160- 500 green to the left

> > Magnesium 18 12- 50 green to the left

> > Sodium 66 12- 90 green to the right

> > Potassium 65 10- 40 yellow (84th percentile)

> > Copper 8.9 9.0- 30 green (almost 16th percentile)

> > Zinc 110 110- 190 green (almost 16th percentile)

> > Manganese 0.18 0.18- 0.60 green (almost 16th percentile)

> > Chromium 0.64 0.23- 0.50 yellow (cc. 90th percentile)

> > Vanadium 0.075 0.025- 0.10 green to the right

> > Molybdenum 0.063 0.040- 0.089 green to the right

> > Boron 1.1 0.50- 3.5 green to the left

> > Iodine 0.58 0.25- 1.3 white to the right

> > Lithium 0.011 0.007- 0.023 white to the right

> > Phosphorus 126 160- 250 yellow, almost to the 2.5th

> > Selenium 0.65 0.95- 1.7 yellow, almost to the 2.5th

> > Strontium 2.7 0.21- 2.1 yellow to the right

> > Sulfur 46400 45500- 53000 green to the left

> > Barium 0.52 0.19- 1.6 white to the left

> > Cobalt 0.017 0.013- 0.035 green to the left

> > Iron 16 6.0- 17 green to the right

> > Germanium 0.040 0.045- 0.065 yellow to the left

> > Rubidium 0.047 0.008- 0.080 green to the right

> > Zirconium 0.089 0.060- 0.70 yellow to the left

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