Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has anyone ever had this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has anyone ever had this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 About separation of nails from the bed - I had it and luckily I don't plan on taking care of my nails till the kids are out of the house because I would have to cut my nails fairly often to get them reasonably uniform. It was as if the nail split into 2 layers and I could peel the upper layer off. They were also weaker in general and cracked. About symptoms for pretreatment GD, this psychological symptom may be included in the rest - total loss of perspective. That along with nail problems, bouncing off the walls and constant leg tapping are ominous signs for me! Elaine, about the Dutch study - what was (were) the treatment(s) employed for achieving remission? And, I've been on Tapazole for several months. After my last round of bloodwork the endo said I should come back in 3 months which is fine, I'm feeling pretty good but in the 2 month interval between previous appointments my TSH went up from .02 to .54 and now all my numbers are euthyroid. Not that I'm complaining but I'm also starting to gain a lot of weight. Now I knew I had to stop eating like a teenage boy and that I'd have to make up the calories I no longer expend from incessant fidgeting but I'm also wondering if 3 months is too long. I also assume that I'll know the dangers signs of going hypo but, here's the question: is there anything I need to know now that someone out there wishes she'd known, or luckily did know at this point? Thanks, Fay Young ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 The nail ridge are another symptom to put on the list but they're not the same as the nail bed thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 The nail ridge are another symptom to put on the list but they're not the same as the nail bed thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Hi Fay, I had my first symptoms of hypo within days after RAI. I like to take a nightly bubble bath, and as soon as I'd get in the water, my legs would begin itching like crazy. I didn't make the connection right off, but as soon as I ran a TSH it was up to 9.0. I called and got on meds then although I wasn't even supposed to make an appt for 2-3 months. Although I felt lucky having the lab connection, it made me very aware of how GD patients are mistreated once we're ablated. I only have the abstract for the Dutch article. From what it says the study was done to assess how prevalent psychological problems are in treated hyperthyroid patients. I'm not sure the article addresses the cure. I should check to see if more studies have been done. I'll admit too that after RAI I became a compulsive gambler. Before that, I never even had the patience to stay in a casino and I would have never wasted the money. After RAI, it seemed my need for stimulation changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Hi Fay, I had my first symptoms of hypo within days after RAI. I like to take a nightly bubble bath, and as soon as I'd get in the water, my legs would begin itching like crazy. I didn't make the connection right off, but as soon as I ran a TSH it was up to 9.0. I called and got on meds then although I wasn't even supposed to make an appt for 2-3 months. Although I felt lucky having the lab connection, it made me very aware of how GD patients are mistreated once we're ablated. I only have the abstract for the Dutch article. From what it says the study was done to assess how prevalent psychological problems are in treated hyperthyroid patients. I'm not sure the article addresses the cure. I should check to see if more studies have been done. I'll admit too that after RAI I became a compulsive gambler. Before that, I never even had the patience to stay in a casino and I would have never wasted the money. After RAI, it seemed my need for stimulation changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Fay, that is interesting. My sis also had the foot tapping symptom for years before dx'd w/ GD. We always laughed about it and thought she did it on purpose. She would always say that she had an urge to do it and didn't even think about it. Weird. Jen Re: ShBr, another symptom About separation of nails from the bed - I had it and luckily I don't plan on taking care of my nails till the kids are out of the house because I would have to cut my nails fairly often to get them reasonably uniform. It was as if the nail split into 2 layers and I could peel the upper layer off. They were also weaker in general and cracked. About symptoms for pretreatment GD, this psychological symptom may be included in the rest - total loss of perspective. That along with nail problems, bouncing off the walls and constant leg tapping are ominous signs for me! Elaine, about the Dutch study - what was (were) the treatment(s) employed for achieving remission? And, I've been on Tapazole for several months. After my last round of bloodwork the endo said I should come back in 3 months which is fine, I'm feeling pretty good but in the 2 month interval between previous appointments my TSH went up from .02 to .54 and now all my numbers are euthyroid. Not that I'm complaining but I'm also starting to gain a lot of weight. Now I knew I had to stop eating like a teenage boy and that I'd have to make up the calories I no longer expend from incessant fidgeting but I'm also wondering if 3 months is too long. I also assume that I'll know the dangers signs of going hypo but, here's the question: is there anything I need to know now that someone out there wishes she'd known, or luckily did know at this point? Thanks, Fay Young ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. <http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.> eGroups Sponsor <http://click./1/9666/6/_/585824/_/971958426/> <http://adimg./img/9666/6/_/585824/_/971958426/WarningSports468x6 02E.gif> ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Fay, that is interesting. My sis also had the foot tapping symptom for years before dx'd w/ GD. We always laughed about it and thought she did it on purpose. She would always say that she had an urge to do it and didn't even think about it. Weird. Jen Re: ShBr, another symptom About separation of nails from the bed - I had it and luckily I don't plan on taking care of my nails till the kids are out of the house because I would have to cut my nails fairly often to get them reasonably uniform. It was as if the nail split into 2 layers and I could peel the upper layer off. They were also weaker in general and cracked. About symptoms for pretreatment GD, this psychological symptom may be included in the rest - total loss of perspective. That along with nail problems, bouncing off the walls and constant leg tapping are ominous signs for me! Elaine, about the Dutch study - what was (were) the treatment(s) employed for achieving remission? And, I've been on Tapazole for several months. After my last round of bloodwork the endo said I should come back in 3 months which is fine, I'm feeling pretty good but in the 2 month interval between previous appointments my TSH went up from .02 to .54 and now all my numbers are euthyroid. Not that I'm complaining but I'm also starting to gain a lot of weight. Now I knew I had to stop eating like a teenage boy and that I'd have to make up the calories I no longer expend from incessant fidgeting but I'm also wondering if 3 months is too long. I also assume that I'll know the dangers signs of going hypo but, here's the question: is there anything I need to know now that someone out there wishes she'd known, or luckily did know at this point? Thanks, Fay Young ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. <http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.> eGroups Sponsor <http://click./1/9666/6/_/585824/_/971958426/> <http://adimg./img/9666/6/_/585824/_/971958426/WarningSports468x6 02E.gif> ------------------------------------- The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Deb, I used to have the sex thing when I was hyper. My husband used to comment on my heart pounding as well. Now I sort of lay there dead longing for the good old days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Debbie, I too have those ugly moles starting in the last couple of years, I wonder if they are GD related, or come with aging? As for the sex...I just have no interest in it anymore at all. Would rather curl up with a good book. Jody _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but thought I'd mention it. Debbie > From: daisyelaine@... > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT > To: graves_supportegroups > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With > all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up > falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. > > One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is > separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually > resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by > uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has > anyone ever had this? > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but thought I'd mention it. Debbie > From: daisyelaine@... > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT > To: graves_supportegroups > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With > all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up > falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. > > One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is > separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually > resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by > uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has > anyone ever had this? > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 I also have those ridges from the base to the tip of the nail. Every once in a while I would get these " dents " horizontally across the nails. You could add light sensitivity to the eye part of the disease. This improves as they get better. Randi Riley wrote: > I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta > like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but > thought I'd mention it. > > Debbie > > > From: daisyelaine@... > > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT > > To: graves_supportegroups > > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > > > For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With > > all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up > > falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. > > > > One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is > > separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually > > resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by > > uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has > > anyone ever had this? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 I also have those ridges from the base to the tip of the nail. Every once in a while I would get these " dents " horizontally across the nails. You could add light sensitivity to the eye part of the disease. This improves as they get better. Randi Riley wrote: > I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta > like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but > thought I'd mention it. > > Debbie > > > From: daisyelaine@... > > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT > > To: graves_supportegroups > > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > > > For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With > > all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up > > falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. > > > > One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is > > separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually > > resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by > > uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has > > anyone ever had this? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > > intended to replace expert medical care. > > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 He** I get hyper from any kind of over-stimulation, including telephone calls with friends. I let the answering machine pick up all my calls, and then space call-backs so I can calm down afterwards. I never watch " thriller " movies. I think stimulation of any kind can send a Graves person sky high. I too would never think of going outside without good sunglasses. I use eyeglasses that darken in the sun and in addition still keep sunglasses that protect even the sides of my eyes from sun for use in the auto while driving or when walking in the bright daylight. Elaine (Virginia) Re: ShBr, another symptom > Yes, the light sensitivity is a good one. I have the TED and have to wear > sunglasses most the time in bright indoor lights and in the sun. Winter is > especially hard on me with the snow. On bright days I can hardly stand to > be outside, it blinds me. My eyes will look like I am crying. When I get > bad migraines I even wear sunglasses in the house sometimes. > > My nails have also peeled hadn't thought about that before. They peeled for > years before I was diagnosed, at times they were so close to my flesh under > the nail they would hurt. I contributed it to having been pregnant, they > always say there are so many things that pregnancy causes. > > I also get those skin moles that are ugly and kinda hang. I have had them > taken off several times, but after pregnancy or after I was taken the ATD's > they came back. Wondering if anyone else has had that too, and could be the > GD? > > I also have another question that is embarrassing, I've wanted to ask maybe > I can't even ask it here. What about sex? After sex I am so hyped up I > can't sleep and could clean the house from top to bottom. If only I could > incorporate it in the morning I could go all day. Is it me or does anyone > else experience this, it's like walking a couple miles, or doing aerobics. > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 He** I get hyper from any kind of over-stimulation, including telephone calls with friends. I let the answering machine pick up all my calls, and then space call-backs so I can calm down afterwards. I never watch " thriller " movies. I think stimulation of any kind can send a Graves person sky high. I too would never think of going outside without good sunglasses. I use eyeglasses that darken in the sun and in addition still keep sunglasses that protect even the sides of my eyes from sun for use in the auto while driving or when walking in the bright daylight. Elaine (Virginia) Re: ShBr, another symptom > Yes, the light sensitivity is a good one. I have the TED and have to wear > sunglasses most the time in bright indoor lights and in the sun. Winter is > especially hard on me with the snow. On bright days I can hardly stand to > be outside, it blinds me. My eyes will look like I am crying. When I get > bad migraines I even wear sunglasses in the house sometimes. > > My nails have also peeled hadn't thought about that before. They peeled for > years before I was diagnosed, at times they were so close to my flesh under > the nail they would hurt. I contributed it to having been pregnant, they > always say there are so many things that pregnancy causes. > > I also get those skin moles that are ugly and kinda hang. I have had them > taken off several times, but after pregnancy or after I was taken the ATD's > they came back. Wondering if anyone else has had that too, and could be the > GD? > > I also have another question that is embarrassing, I've wanted to ask maybe > I can't even ask it here. What about sex? After sex I am so hyped up I > can't sleep and could clean the house from top to bottom. If only I could > incorporate it in the morning I could go all day. Is it me or does anyone > else experience this, it's like walking a couple miles, or doing aerobics. > > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Yes, the light sensitivity is a good one. I have the TED and have to wear sunglasses most the time in bright indoor lights and in the sun. Winter is especially hard on me with the snow. On bright days I can hardly stand to be outside, it blinds me. My eyes will look like I am crying. When I get bad migraines I even wear sunglasses in the house sometimes. My nails have also peeled hadn't thought about that before. They peeled for years before I was diagnosed, at times they were so close to my flesh under the nail they would hurt. I contributed it to having been pregnant, they always say there are so many things that pregnancy causes. I also get those skin moles that are ugly and kinda hang. I have had them taken off several times, but after pregnancy or after I was taken the ATD's they came back. Wondering if anyone else has had that too, and could be the GD? I also have another question that is embarrassing, I've wanted to ask maybe I can't even ask it here. What about sex? After sex I am so hyped up I can't sleep and could clean the house from top to bottom. If only I could incorporate it in the morning I could go all day. Is it me or does anyone else experience this, it's like walking a couple miles, or doing aerobics. Debbie > > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:29:44 -0500 > To: graves_supportegroups > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > I also have those ridges from the base to the tip of the nail. Every once in > a while I would get these " dents " > horizontally across the nails. You could add light sensitivity to the eye > part of the disease. This improves as > they get better. > > Randi > > Riley wrote: > >> I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta >> like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but >> thought I'd mention it. >> >> Debbie >> >>> From: daisyelaine@... >>> Reply-To: graves_supportegroups >>> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT >>> To: graves_supportegroups >>> Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom >>> >>> For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With >>> all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up >>> falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. >>> >>> One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is >>> separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually >>> resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by >>> uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has >>> anyone ever had this? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >>> intended to replace expert medical care. >>> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >> intended to replace expert medical care. >> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >> ---------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 Yes, the light sensitivity is a good one. I have the TED and have to wear sunglasses most the time in bright indoor lights and in the sun. Winter is especially hard on me with the snow. On bright days I can hardly stand to be outside, it blinds me. My eyes will look like I am crying. When I get bad migraines I even wear sunglasses in the house sometimes. My nails have also peeled hadn't thought about that before. They peeled for years before I was diagnosed, at times they were so close to my flesh under the nail they would hurt. I contributed it to having been pregnant, they always say there are so many things that pregnancy causes. I also get those skin moles that are ugly and kinda hang. I have had them taken off several times, but after pregnancy or after I was taken the ATD's they came back. Wondering if anyone else has had that too, and could be the GD? I also have another question that is embarrassing, I've wanted to ask maybe I can't even ask it here. What about sex? After sex I am so hyped up I can't sleep and could clean the house from top to bottom. If only I could incorporate it in the morning I could go all day. Is it me or does anyone else experience this, it's like walking a couple miles, or doing aerobics. Debbie > > Reply-To: graves_supportegroups > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:29:44 -0500 > To: graves_supportegroups > Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom > > I also have those ridges from the base to the tip of the nail. Every once in > a while I would get these " dents " > horizontally across the nails. You could add light sensitivity to the eye > part of the disease. This improves as > they get better. > > Randi > > Riley wrote: > >> I have narrow ridges that run from the base of my nail to the tip, sorta >> like a wash board effect. Don't know if that would be included in it, but >> thought I'd mention it. >> >> Debbie >> >>> From: daisyelaine@... >>> Reply-To: graves_supportegroups >>> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:45:03 EDT >>> To: graves_supportegroups >>> Subject: Re: ShBr, another symptom >>> >>> For a prize, I'll take one day of the dogs not pulling me on our walks. With >>> all the pine needles, it's getting to be a challenge. Yesterday, I ended up >>> falling. I had to pretend to cry to get them to behave. >>> >>> One symptom I'm not sure made it on the hyper list is Onycholysis which is >>> separation of the nail from its bed. This condition, is said to usually >>> resolve spontaneously as the patient improves. It's also characterized by >>> uneven nail margins which allegedly make the nails difficult to clean. Has >>> anyone ever had this? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------- >>> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >>> intended to replace expert medical care. >>> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------- >> The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not >> intended to replace expert medical care. >> Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. >> ---------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------------- > The Graves' list is intended for informational purposes only and is not > intended to replace expert medical care. > Please consult your doctor before changing or trying new treatments. > ---------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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