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The LAST thing I can handle is heat when I'm hiving. On a hot day, if I'm

itching, you'll find me in a nice COOL Aveeno bath. - Jackie

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Any form of heat makes my hives itch like crazy, and yes, I too sometimes

experience a burning sensation with them. I'm also more likely to get

pressure hives when I am hot. - Jackie

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I have two theories on why hot baths help my hives.

1) I heard somewhere that heat on an insect bite will help because it

provokes all the histamines to comeout at once so afterward you have some

relief from the itching because there are less histamines left. I don't

know if the reasoning is right, but I have found that it works for me.

2) I think my hives are kind of like arthritis because they usually start on

my joints (fingers, toes, knees, elbows) and they cause a lot of aching.

Hot baths help relieve that aching and make me feel better while I'm in the

tub and for about an hour afterward.

I have started rating my hives as whether it was a one, two, or three bath

day. Also, I really like the Aveeno bath soak, but it is expensive so I am

going to try baking soda instead.

Just my thoughts on why the baths help me.

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>Subject: Hives less in heat?

>Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:14:55 -0400

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>Does anyone else find that the hives they have are less in heat - like a

>hot

>bath or the sauna? My doctor seems to think this is really strange, that

>they should be aggravated by heat.

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>Any ideas why they would be better with heat, or others w cold?

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>This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria

>(hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide

>cyber-family.

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>We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle

>with Chronic Urticria.

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>Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post with a

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My hives also get better with heat. Especially when my throat or tongue swells.

If I drink something real hot, the swelling usually goes down quickly.

jane_doe_press wrote:

> Does anyone else find that the hives they have are less in heat - like a hot

> bath or the sauna? My doctor seems to think this is really strange, that

> they should be aggravated by heat.

>

> Any ideas why they would be better with heat, or others w cold?

>

>

>

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> This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria

(hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide cyber-family.

>

> We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle with

Chronic Urticria.

>

> Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post with a

prefix of NCU -. This is done out of respect for those who do not wish to read

such postings.

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I can't say that heat has ever made my hives worse, although I am more

comfortable in air conditioning. However, when doing dishes or taking a

bath, if I have any hives in the areas that are submerged in really warm

water, those hives burn really bad. Does anyone else experience this

too? Elaine

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Myra and all,

It's odd, Myra, the heat? The hot bath, sauna, makes them sort of like

spread and then dissipate. I started figuring this was odd when I got some

poison ivy in the spring and *that* really felt awful in the hot bath, but

the hives felt great.

Any ideas as to why?

I feel like if I can get to the " why " I could get to a control of this.

P.S. Thyroid supplements for hypothyroid make ones' temp go up - I am also

on thryoid (was low). My doc and I upped it to see if the hives would

leave. No luck, except for the very first time I went on the med years

ago. But upping it doesn't change the hives now.

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Me too! Wonder what's different about us and what's going on...

> My hives also get better with heat. Especially when my throat or tongue

swells. If I drink something real hot, the swelling usually goes down

quickly.

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No... next to certain medication reactions, heat makes my hives awful!!

Connie

jane_doe_press wrote:

> Does anyone else find that the hives they have are less in heat - like a hot

> bath or the sauna? My doctor seems to think this is really strange, that

> they should be aggravated by heat.

>

> Any ideas why they would be better with heat, or others w cold?

>

>

>

>

> This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria

(hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide cyber-family.

>

> We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle with

Chronic Urticria.

>

> Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post with a

prefix of NCU -. This is done out of respect for those who do not wish to read

such postings.

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I also get relief from heat application to swelling areas. At times I've put

my feet under the bathtub faucet and ran almost pure hot water over the

swelling as long as I can stand and then repeat. It takes alot of the pain

away instantly. Has anyone noticed that even though it relieves-the swelling

gets larger? Also, cold app. does absolutely nothing for me.

Now heat from the weather is a completely different story. The hotter the

environment, temperature wise.....the more the swelling. I do not have CU so

this, for me, applies to DPU.

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I also agree with for mouth swelling relief. I do the same, (drink as

hot as I can stand water or tea) when I feel the swelling coming on. My

tongue or lips/gums still swell but the pain is not as severe. Also do this

when throat begins to swell.

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Good thinking.

I know what you mean about the one, two or three bath day.

This thing is pretty disabling...to say the least (had a real hard time

sleeping last night...)

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Hi Elaine:

I find when I put my arm which is hiving in hot water or doing the dishes it

does

burn. I dont know why, cause some people find heat soothing. I feel better

with cold water. My hives are always so warm till they peak. Do you find

that also??

Lets see what others think about heat or cold.

Good luck

Sandy

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>Subject: Hives less in heat?

>Date: 08/05/2000 7:49 AM

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>To: <urticariaegroups>

>Reply-To: urticariaegroups

Hi ,

Your reaction to heat is very strange.......... because heat is a natural

mast cell degranulator for everyone, hivers and non-hivers. As are cold

and exercise. So, it truly does not make sense that you should improve with

heat. BUT, you are not the only one...... we have had several people on

this board who said the same thing. Sorry, I don't remember who. Maybe

someone else will. Hugs, Myra

This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria (hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide cyber-family.

We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle with Chronic Urticria.

Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post with a prefix of NCU -

.. This is done out of respect for those who do not wish to read such postings.

Hi Myra,

I read your message. My Urticaria become worse whenever I am subjected to heat, or whenever I have to walk around.

Even if I was in a cool climate, The urticaria would appear whenever I got too warm, or was in a place that was overly warm.

If I exert myself in hot weather, I suffer all over my body. If I do a lot of walking, the Urticaria not only appear on the bottom of my feet, but I experience facial swelling, urticaria whenever I wear a bra, and just feel altogether miserable.

I'm trying to get the doctors to understand what I'm going through.

Do you have any suggestions? I print out all relevant information and show it to the doctors, yet they ignore me.

I can't take much more of this. I want to be able to spend time with family, go shopping, or just get around. If I do go out, it takes a few days before I can go out again. It's a vicious circle.

Is there any way I can convince the doctors that I am not suffering from a Psychosomatic condition? If I suffer from allergies, then what can be done?

I'm at my wits end.

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I live in Arizona, where it reaches 120 degrees in the summer and there has

never been a decrease/increase in my hives due high or low temps. I have a

friend who has cold urticaria and moved to Arizona to decrease the amount of

cold weather he would be exposed to (ha! He didn't take into account air

conditioning all summer!)

Just another one of the inconsistencies of this condition.

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In a message dated 08/05/2000 9:08:30 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

tgallow4@... writes:

<< My hives also get better with heat. Especially when my throat or tongue

swells. If I drink something real hot, the swelling usually goes down

quickly.

>>

When I have swelling from the angio, cold helps relieve it!

is

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My Dr. told me to sleep with as little clothing and covers as possible. The

heat

from my body while asleep with a gown and covers on would cause me to hive.

So I run a little AC, use a sheet for cover and wake up with not as much

hiving.

Hope this will help. Carolyn

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A sustained increase in my core body temp always seems to trigger my hives -

a long hot bath, a long time anywhere -- inside or out -- where the temp

exceeds 90 degrees (I live in AZ, this happens all summer!). I can keep my

hiving under control with 25 mg benadryl every four hours. After being on

this list, I know I'm lucky that benadryl alone works so well for me.

However, I can double my benadryl dose and set my alarm so I don't miss a

dose in the night, but I always seem to hive when I'm sleeping - even when I

take a nap. Does anyone else link frequency or severity of hives with

periods of sleep?

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> > Does anyone else find that the hives they have are less in heat - like a

> hot

> > bath or the sauna? My doctor seems to think this is really strange,

that

> > they should be aggravated by heat.

> >

> > Any ideas why they would be better with heat, or others w cold?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria

> (hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide

> cyber-family.

> >

> > We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle

> with Chronic Urticria.

> >

> > Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post

with

> a prefix of NCU -. This is done out of respect for those who do not wish

to

> read such postings.

> >

> >

>

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> This list is in the service of those who suffer from Chronic Urticaria

(hives). We strive to support and lift each other as a worldwide

cyber-family.

>

> We share whatever needs to be shared to help one another in our struggle

with Chronic Urticria.

>

> Any posting that is off the main topic of Chronic Urticaria, we post with

a prefix of NCU -. This is done out of respect for those who do not wish to

read such postings.

>

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Hi

My hives are worse when I am sleeping so when I get up if I am hiving they

are in full bloom. Lets look into this with other people. Sometimes I am

afraid to go to sleep. Never know if i will get swelling on my face. Its

like living with a time bomb. I wish we could find out what is causing this.

I keep taking my antihistamines every night before I go to bed.

Take Care

Sandy

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Hi this is Joann.

You were the first one that I have seen on line that itched more after a nap,

or during the night sleep. I have this same thing. My itch is so much worst

when I wake up in the mornings, and even if I have a short nap.

What do you do for yours? I wash off with baking soda, or rub an ice cube

over the skin. and put on Triciminlone Cream or one of the many others I have

by my bed.

When I wake up say 4:00am I take my Accolate, which is to be taken on an

empty stomach. I take 2 a day, suppose to be 12hrs apart. the afternoon one,

I hardly ever take it on an empty, I have always just eaten, or it is time to

eat. One other women on line that told me about Accolate said she understands

it only works about 40%.

I don't break out unless I scratch my skin. My problem is this darn intense

itching. It moves all over. If I touch one spot, another spot starts to itch,

until I'm itching all over.

Bangie5052@... (Joann)

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Hi, my hives are almost always begun at night. I take double what the MD

ordered in atarax and benadryl at night, plus zantac. Also, if I happen to

be on a pred taper, I take that at night. I keep my epi pen by the bed.

-Judy

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I asked my doc about hives at night. He said this was very common...the

most comon. So, I guess I can stop blaming the environment in the bedroom -

I have an airpurifier and no rugs etc in there but I don't think it

helps....

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