Re: Day 8

[Guest guest]

Eileen wrote:

>Well my father has eaten a loaf of rye bread in the past two days along with

four english muffins and two wraps. We've gone threw a pound of butter in the

past week. He says he's always hungry so he wants to increase his insulin to

try to control his numbers better Todays sugar readings were 272 273 and 388

at dinner. I told him he should cut back his eating in order to regulate the

sugar but he doens't listen to me.

>

>HBA1c was 10

>

Yeah, too bad about the 10. If he increases his insulin,

he'll probably be less hungry. When his glucose goes high, it's

getting backed up in his blood stream, and much of it is being passed

out through his urine. So it's not going to his body's cells. That

means the cells remain hungry and are sending the " hungry " signal to

him. More insulin means more glucose gets to his cells where it's

needed and that will make him less hungry.

Good luck, kiddo.

Edd

[Guest guest]

Eileen, Dad isn't going to listen to anyone. There's a funny little

thing called denial and it sounds like he's in it ... deep. Don't waste

your breath on him because nothing you say is going to make a

difference. It's devastating to watch someone go about self-destruction

in such a determined manner. Best to let him buy and eat his own food

as and when he chooses to and just back off with trying to control him

because you can't do it. Dad's A1c is his responsibility, not yours.

The more you try to get him to do the right thing the more stubborn he

gets, right?

CarolR

Eileen wrote:

> Well my father has eaten a loaf of rye bread in the past two days along with

four english muffins and two wraps. We've gone threw a pound of butter in the

past week. He says he's always hungry so he wants to increase his insulin to

try to control his numbers better Todays sugar readings were 272 273 and 388

at dinner. I told him he should cut back his eating in order to regulate the

sugar but he doens't listen to me.

>

> HBA1c was 10

[Guest guest]

Edd wrote:

<< If he increases his insulin, he'll probably be less hungry. >>

Or it can make him hungrier. I don't feel hypo-y until I am

officially in hypo territory, but for those diabetics whose readings

are normally very high, their bodies will scream " hypo " just when

their readings are lower than normal. Our bodies try very hard to

save themselves, by maintaining stasis - whatever conditions normally

exist become " normal " to them. So if dad is reading 200-300

ordinarily, his body will send out hypo SOS signals if he is maybe

100-150 (lower than normal). One of the hallmarks of a hypo is being

what I call " roadkill-hungry. " You'll just have to see how he does.

But with all the bread and other carbs he is apparently eating, he'll

need oodles of insulin to cover it. Just make sure he doesn't overdo

it and hypo. Something I discovered in myself is that, regardless of

how high my glucose reading was, I would hypo whenever I shot more

than 25 units of Humalog at a time. You can work out the math of how

much to shoot and how many carbs he can tolerate daily/at each meal

with careful testing and recordkeeping.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Carol wrote:

<< Eileen, Dad isn't going to listen to anyone. There's a funny little

thing called denial and it sounds like he's in it ... deep. Don't

waste your breath on him because nothing you say is going to make a

difference. >>

But I think that Eileen needs to ventilate to the group, in her

frustration over his refusal to do the right thing, so feel free to

talk to us, Eileen. We understand.

Susie