Re: 7.0% is OK?: was- Insulin and doctors

[Guest guest]

Doctors are afraid of hypos and possibly lawsuits but I'm here to tell

you, if you learn to listen to your body and pay attention so that you

recognize a low, it can be easily remedied..

The " official " hypo liine is, I believe, 65. Being minimally below that

isn't going to do any permanent damage. I personally operate very well

between 55 and 65. However, below that, things start getting dicey.

For myself, I may start feeling a little disoriented. I may have sort of

a prickly tongue. If I'm at work, my fingers will start hitting the

wrong keys. If I'm REALLY low -- which has happened only once -- I may

start having double vision. This is definitely not good, but the one

time that happened to me I was at 42. And of course, if you have

glucose tabs handy -- and all diabetics should -- it's easily fixed.

How you experience a low can vary from person to person. And if you're

a type 2 and used to very high numbers, you may feel these symptoms when

you're actually not having a hypo at all.

The point is, you're not going to get suddenly unconscious if you're a

little below 65. Being too high for a long period of time -- like having

an A1C of 7 -- will in the long run cause those complications we all

hope not to get. The symptoms of a low are immediate and easily

corrected with a few glucose tabs. But the results of high BGs are

longterm and with you forever....and can ultimately shorten your life or

make the remainder of it very unpleasant.

Vicki, LADA

7.0% is OK?: was- Insulin and doctors

>

> Kat,

> On the " 7.0% is OK thing " , they fear hypos if they encourage a lower

> goal, &

> you're right, the consequences of that probably would translate into

> lawsuits.

> I was told this directly at a diabetes seminar a couple years ago by a

> nationally known endo (name escapes me, senior moment!) specializing

> in diabetes

> treatment who practices at our local major teaching hospital.

> This Dr spent an hour explaining that getting HbA1c below 6.0% was

> what will

> minimize or eliminate complication risk (which is good). Then at the

> end said

> 7.0% was the goal (not so good).

> She gave the above explanation of " why 7.0% goal " during the question

> session

> at the end.

>

> You go girl! Being on a rampage & pro-active with your bg control is

> the best

> thing you can do for your longevity & long-term quality of life.

> Control is

> up to each of us, the patients. Drs can only recommend & prescribe, we

> have to

> make it work.

> , T2, dx'ed 4/98, controlling with LC & Supplements

> Average fasting bg 100mg/dl, last HbA1c 5.7%

> _______________________________________

> I don't know why the doctors are telling people 7.0 is

> okay. Lawsuits? I don't know.....

>

> Kat here, fed up and going on a rampage for better control. I

> guess I am just sick and tired of working on this daily and spending

> all my money on drugs and STILL having high numbers.

>

>

[Guest guest]

> On the " 7.0% is OK thing " , they fear hypos if they encourage a

lower goal, &

> you're right, the consequences of that probably would translate

into lawsuits.

> I was told this directly at a diabetes seminar a couple years ago

by a

> nationally known endo (name escapes me, senior moment!)

specializing in diabetes

> treatment who practices at our local major teaching hospital.

Well I am hoping that at this point in my treatment my doc will see

how much I am into this. She wants to be sure I know about hypo's

etc. I think she treats conservatively but will usually go along

with me if she thinks that I can handle it. And I think you're

definitely right about them fearing hypo's is the reason they say

that a 7.0 is okay. They know lower is better but don't want to

take chances........

Kat Type 2 2002 A1c 6.8

Modified 65 low-carb diet

Exercise 45 minutes daily

Lantus/Glucophage/Actos/Dyazide,ALA

[Guest guest]

At 09:04 AM 11/15/04, rogerhlmn@... wrote:

>On the " 7.0% is OK thing " , they fear hypos if they encourage a lower goal, &

>you're right, the consequences of that probably would translate into

>lawsuits.

>I was told this directly at a diabetes seminar a couple years ago by a

>nationally known endo (name escapes me, senior moment!) specializing in

>diabetes

>treatment who practices at our local major teaching hospital.

>This Dr spent an hour explaining that getting HbA1c below 6.0% was what will

>minimize or eliminate complication risk (which is good). Then at the end said

>7.0% was the goal (not so good).

>She gave the above explanation of " why 7.0% goal " during the question session

>at the end.

Humph. My original HbA1c was 6.7. I'm glad my NP didn't think that was

okay. Maybe there's hope for her to assist me in getting it lower.

sky

[Guest guest]

Too true. I start feeling like this as I get close to 90. I've been

trying to " wean " myself from treating the faux-hypo, letting it go a

little lower each time before I eat. That is, of course, unless I'm

going to be going to the gym, etc. I refuse to exercise if my BS is

under about 95-100, due to how much I can drop while working

out. I'd hate to suddenly drop while in the pool!

SulaBlue

> How you experience a low can vary from person to person.

And if you're

> a type 2 and used to very high numbers, you may feel these

symptoms when

> you're actually not having a hypo at all.

>

> Vicki, LADA

> 7.0% is OK?: was- Insulin and doctors