gluetin and autism

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Hello,

I know this continues to be a little off topic, but I think it relates too. I am a Special Ed. teacher, and currently all of my students have autism. I have not done any purposeful research on gluetin and autism, but of my 6 kids, 3 have been on it, and one still is. Unfortunatly I have only worked with them for a year, so I don't know if there were drastic results, but I'm guessing not given that two of them are no longer on the diet.

The one time I did check into it, I read about leaky gut syndrome, and then didn't get much farther. It doesn't seem possible to me that all of this can be true. If it is, then why aren't more people sick/autistic? I do believe that a small minority of people may be affected, but then again a minority of people are allergic to peanut butter, etc.

If someone knows more and can give me more information, I am interested, but I would prefer to read an article from a website that isn't trying to sell me products from the diet. Thanks!

-- caje0202

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--- caje0202 wrote:

> I know this continues to be a little off topic, but

> I think it relates too.

Hi,

I don't think it is any more off topic than having

physical therapy, or acupuncture, or any other

treatment that is suggested for vulvar disorders as

this seems to be involved with conditions where there

are no hard and fast cures or relief. It seems that

gluten is often involved in them. Diets have been

recommended, like the low oxalate diet, to help vulvar

disorders for a long time although there is no

research that shows any proof that they help, to my

knowledge anyway. However, it is for the listowner to

determine that.

I don't know if there were

> drastic results, but I'm

> guessing not given that two of them are no longer on

> the diet.

This diet is hard to do and I suspect many people

don't do it for that reason while telling themselves

it isn't involved. I have figured that many autistic

children's brains are so damaged by this before gluten

and dairy are taken away that either it takes longer

or it is too late. Both gluten and dairy (especially

the protein, casein) are likely involved.

>

> The one time I did check into it, I read about leaky

> gut syndrome, and then

> didn't get much farther. It doesn't seem possible

> to me that all of this

> can be true.

Yes, it does seem fantastic but it is certainly true

that these two foods damage any part of the body

especially the nervous system and the brain but any

organ can be involved.

If it is, then why aren't more people

> sick/autistic?

It seems like everybody I meet has been diagnosed with

fibromyalgia (muscle pain), IBS (Irritable Bowel

Syndrome)(constipation, diarrhea, GERD Gastro

Esophageal Reflux Disease, acne and other skin

problems, everybody practically on this list has some

kind of neuropathy (nerve pain), diabetes,

gynecological disorders, arthritis, thyroid disease,

gynecological problems, osteoarthritis, nervous

conditions, depression and mental disorders, ADD, ADHD

and other behavior disorders in children, alopecia,

and the list goes on and on. All of these things can

be and probably are in my opinion and in others

related to gluten and casein and other dairy proteins.

There are a lot of sick people out there--more than

are healthy.

Gluten can affect any part of the body and it is

different for everybody.

I do

> believe that a small minority of people may be

> affected, but then again a

> minority of people are allergic to peanut butter,

> etc.

The doctors have said for decades that this is rare.

Recent research indicates that on the contrary it is

epidemic--not autism but the other forms of the

disease.

This a complex diseases that it narrowly and

incorrectly described as a disease of the small

intestine call Celiac. It is much more than that. The

whole spectrum of the gluten diseases is gargantuan

and the medical system cannot even diagnose or

describe it correctly and seems to refuse for the most

part to even look at it.

>

> If someone knows more and can give me more

> information, I am interested, but

> I would prefer to read an article from a website

> that isn't trying to sell

> me products from the diet.

I am sending you some articles and references. If you

are on this list because you have vulvar pain or

vulvar disorders of some kind I suggest that you have

the stool test I refer to in one of the articles I am

sending. Everybody with the disorders and diseases I

mention should be stool tested to see that this isn't

the problem. This isn't an allergy and in fact can be

the cause of a whole series of autoimmune diseases.

I hope this helps.

Arline

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[Guest guest]

HI,

Here are some references you may find helpful.

Here is a page on the writings of one doctor about

this subject:

http://gluten-free.org/reichelt.html

Here is an abstract about autism and link to

Celiac.com, a large site dedicated to Celiac/Gluten

Sensitivity

http://www.celiac.com/st_sresults.html

Here is a link to a Dr. Hadjivasseliov, a neurologist

in the UK who has done wonderful research on the

damage gluten can do to the brain and body. There are

other references. He to my memory doesn't do anything

in particular with autism but he does show other brain

and neurological things that are done with gluten and

I think dairy.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/318/7200/1710?view=full & pmid=1038168\

4

This the only place where I would get tested for this

as this is state of the art, well researched, up to

date accurate testing. The blood tests, etc., which

are given in the doctors' are not accurate and are a

real waste of time as far as I am concerned (and tens

of thousands of other people). They are stool tests as

opposed to the common blood tests and you cando it

online.

http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=68 & p_catid=3 & sid=91\

hH9H0WY7W86aj-26102298994.3d

Here is a page in google where there are many

references to neurological consequences of gluten and

mostly from a Dr. Latov at Cornell.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=neurological%20disorders%20in%20celiac%20dis\

ease%20latov & hl=en & lr= & safe=off & oi=scholart

Arline

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[Guest guest]

Hello,

Thank you for your response! I found it interesting, and informative. I won't have a chance to read the articles until this weekend, (it's the end of the quarter at school!) but I will probably have more questions for you after I do. Have a good day!

HI,Here are some references you may find helpful.Here is a page on the writings of one doctor aboutthis subject:

http://gluten-free.org/reichelt.htmlHere is an abstract about autism and link toCeliac.com, a large site dedicated to Celiac/Gluten

Sensitivityhttp://www.celiac.com/st_sresults.htmlHere is a link to a Dr. Hadjivasseliov, a neurologist

in the UK who has done wonderful research on thedamage gluten can do to the brain and body. There areother references. He to my memory doesn't do anythingin particular with autism but he does show other brain

and neurological things that are done with gluten andI think dairy.

http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/318/7200/1710?view=full & pmid=10381684This the only place where I would get tested for thisas this is state of the art, well researched, up todate accurate testing. The blood tests, etc., which

are given in the doctors' are not accurate and are areal waste of time as far as I am concerned (and tensof thousands of other people). They are stool tests asopposed to the common blood tests and you cando it

online.http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=68 & p_catid=3 & sid=91hH9H0WY7W86aj-26102298994.3d

Here is a page in google where there are manyreferences to neurological consequences of gluten andmostly from a Dr. Latov at Cornell.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=neurological%20disorders%20in%20celiac%20disease%20latov & hl=en & lr= & safe=off & oi=scholart

Arline__________________________________________________