RE: Re: HC and isocort--nne

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In a message dated 7/8/2004 1:22:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, usns@...

writes:

> I am thinking of trying Isocort with my husband, who has had major

> stress due to chronic pain all his life. At first, I would think

> giving him adrenal support would have been the worst thing you could

> do---his stress hormones were probably WAYY to high for a long time.

> Now, I am wondering if he has sluggish adrenals finally...

>

Janie,

You've raised an issue that I've been pondering. My daughter has a kidney

disease. Chronic stress and chronic pain. And not only that, but the adrenals

sit on top of the kidneys and her's are enlarged which would for sure cause

stress to the adrenals.

So I've been pondering the wisdom of her taking hydrocortisone or

prednisolone on a maintenance basis.

Cindi

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In a message dated 7/8/2004 2:32:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, marin@...

writes:

> People who have had known adrenal stress during their lifetime do have

> enlarged adrenal glands. It has been found at autopsy

Yes...my mom had undiagnosed Hashimoto's according to her autopsy report.

The autopsy also said " adrenal hyperplasia " ...which is enlargement...and noted a

mass on the outer adrenal cortex. The liver findings weren't too good

either. And she had some other things from the thyroid disease such as an

enlarged

heart and hardening of the arteries. Untreated thyroid disease does a number

on your body.

Cindi

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But adrenaline IS an adrenal issue. It just happens to be from the other

part of the adrenal gland. I think that the cortisol is from the cortex,

right?

Re: HC and isocort--nne

> >Now, my DH who is very hypo, but untreated so far, has taken the

> >isocort,and it really made him feel better..he has very little

> >energy, and the adrenaline in the isocort worked well for him..

>

> I am curious about this. How long has he been on Isocort? How many

> tabs of isocort is he taking daily?? And.....has he gone through a

> lot of stress in his life, i.e. any reason to think he might have

> adrenal fatigue??

>

> I am always curious about adrenal issues. Would anyone feel better

> if they took Isocort, for example, because of the extra umpff it

> gives. Or...if someone feels better, it is a sign they needed it due

> to adrenal issues?

>

> I am thinking of trying Isocort with my husband, who has had major

> stress due to chronic pain all his life. At first, I would think

> giving him adrenal support would have been the worst thing you could

> do---his stress hormones were probably WAYY to high for a long time.

> Now, I am wondering if he has sluggish adrenals finally...

>

> Janie

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People who have had known adrenal stress during their lifetime do have

enlarged adrenal glands. It has been found at autopsy. The poor things

work themselves to death, and when they can no longer produce what they're

supposed to, they still keep on working, changing size to try to do what

they were designed to do. It kind of reminds me of the goiter in thyroid

disease. It's trying to get what it needs, but can't, so it puffs up to

maintain.

Re: Re: HC and isocort--nne

> Janie,

> You've raised an issue that I've been pondering. My daughter has a kidney

> disease. Chronic stress and chronic pain. And not only that, but the

adrenals

> sit on top of the kidneys and her's are enlarged which would for sure

cause

> stress to the adrenals.

>

> So I've been pondering the wisdom of her taking hydrocortisone or

> prednisolone on a maintenance basis.

> Cindi

[Guest guest]

My husband has had a lot of stress, although to look at him, you wouldn't

know it..he looks totally hypo thyroid. He is so sluggish. He also has a low

TSH. He stopped the isocort for now, so we can get tests and start over with

a better plan. So it has all been confusing. We have a top doc appointment

for him tomorrow.can't wait to see what that brings.

Maybe the confusing thing is really a person's reaction to stress.I get very

hyper, and angry, and need a drink to calm down, he just gets tired, so it

doesn't look like stress to ME. Lol. We did look at that Dr Rind site I

think it was with the charts comparing adrenals and thyroid. He looked like

low thyroid, and I looked like low adrenals, which would have been backwards

according to our treatments..that is why I think everyone has a combination

of the 2!

nne

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From: loboshe

Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:21 PM

To: NaturalThyroidHormones

Subject: Re: HC and isocort--nne

>Now, my DH who is very hypo, but untreated so far, has taken the

>isocort,and it really made him feel better..he has very little

>energy, and the adrenaline in the isocort worked well for him..

I am curious about this. How long has he been on Isocort? How many

tabs of isocort is he taking daily?? And.....has he gone through a

lot of stress in his life, i.e. any reason to think he might have

adrenal fatigue??

I am always curious about adrenal issues. Would anyone feel better

if they took Isocort, for example, because of the extra umpff it

gives. Or...if someone feels better, it is a sign they needed it due

to adrenal issues?

I am thinking of trying Isocort with my husband, who has had major

stress due to chronic pain all his life. At first, I would think

giving him adrenal support would have been the worst thing you could

do---his stress hormones were probably WAYY to high for a long time.

Now, I am wondering if he has sluggish adrenals finally...

Janie