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I think it's Avandia that either causes or promotes weight gain. Since

I take both Metformin and Avandia I get to either gain weight or

maintain (if I'm really good about the low-carb thing), AND I get the

added wonderment of all the side effects: cramps, the big D, nausea,

sinus congestion, lactic acid buildup, muscle weakness, dizziness - you

name it, if there's a side effect, I've got it. Which is why I'm doing

insulin as of January with or without the doctor.

Carol

cappie@... wrote:

> No sky, Metformin is one of the few that sometimes causes weight loss.

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At 06:16 PM 11/7/04, cappie@... wrote:

>No sky, Metformin is one of the few that sometimes causes weight loss.

>

>Of course there are those who say it is because one gets so sick on it

>that one can't eat VBG but it never bothered me at all ever, even if I

>took it on an empty stomach. Many people find that the extended

>release version & /or eating some active yogurt mitigates the tummy

>problems.

>

>I did notice an appetite suppressive effect for me, deffinitely.

Well then if I cant do any convincing for a fast-acting insulin (and I

doubt I'll be able to do that right now) perhaps I can try some of the

time-release Metformin. And speaking of eating, I think I'll go do that as

I'm hungry. When I eat this early, though, I get hungry later on and end up

eating a snack...or two...or three almost right up until I go to bed at

midnight. I really need to try not to snack so late but when I'm watching

TV or reading, I like to nibble. A habit, I know, but one of

long-standing. By that time of night I no longer want to come here and

look at the computer screen or go work on some art projects.

sky

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What you said makes sense. They would have to change something in order

to get a patent on the formula, but it still only lasts 17 years (I

think, I'm pretty sure about the term of the patent). So I tell my doc

I'm going on UL whether he likes it or not, and does he want to help me

with the other one or not... that'll work. I appreciate a good threat.

Carol

whimsy2 wrote:

> No, it was NPH, regular and Ultralente which don't require a

> prescription. Humalog and NovaLog do.

>

> The reason the earlier insulins are no prescription is because when

> Banting and Best discovered insulin, they made a condition that it

> always be available prescription-free. However, the newer insulins got

> around this by changing a molecule

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Yes, Carol R., but sometimes you can't just use insulin alone, if you have

consistently high sugars (as I did/do). Your doctor may put you on a combo, like

mine of Avandia...which, yes causes weight gain...and insulin too. There is no

'one and only way' to go, although I certainly agree it would be a comfort if

there were.

Again, YMMV.

Bron

Type II

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