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[Guest guest]

I thought we could have diet coke and a little p. butter? as long as the

coke is caffeine free.?

Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

>From: Salvagemom@...

>

>Hi to all,

>My name is Terry...

>I got serious with getting the pounds off in May...

>I lost 10 lbs. doing (PROTEIN POWER & CARBOHYDRATE ADDICT'S DIET.)

>My husbands business partner told me to try ATKINS _______in 6 months he

lost

>50 lbs.

>I can't get off the induction weeks cause I cheat with 1 T. of peanut

butter

>a day or a diet coke....I have lost only 3 lbs. more and I can't get those

>darn sticks to go beyond med. purple.

>I have been on vacation and have been a bad girl and gained 3 lbs. back...

>I'm feeling down needless to say...

>I am back in the saddle today....

>I am hoping I am not resistant to this diet

>I have walked 4 miles every morning (takes me 1 hour) since May 6 DAYS A

WEEK

>I feel like those little cheats should not have kept me from losing more

>weight...

>Happy I found you guys and I hope we all have a great week!!!

>SALVAGEMOM@...

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Terry you dont want the ketone stix to go past moderate that is the

best place to be to dark means your dehydrated and not haveing enough

fluids as for you diet coke they are legal. Try subtracting a salad a

day and only have a small one. Sue

--- Salvagemom@... wrote:

> From: Salvagemom@...

>

> Hi to all,

> My name is Terry...

> I got serious with getting the pounds off in May...

> I lost 10 lbs. doing (PROTEIN POWER & CARBOHYDRATE

> ADDICT'S DIET.)

> My husbands business partner told me to try ATKINS

> _______in 6 months he lost

> 50 lbs.

> I can't get off the induction weeks cause I cheat

> with 1 T. of peanut butter

> a day or a diet coke....I have lost only 3 lbs. more

> and I can't get those

> darn sticks to go beyond med. purple.

> I have been on vacation and have been a bad girl and

> gained 3 lbs. back...

> I'm feeling down needless to say...

> I am back in the saddle today....

> I am hoping I am not resistant to this diet

> I have walked 4 miles every morning (takes me 1

> hour) since May 6 DAYS A WEEK

> I feel like those little cheats should not have kept

> me from losing more

> weight...

> Happy I found you guys and I hope we all have a

> great week!!!

> SALVAGEMOM@...

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue and Atkins WOLers!

My name is Patti and I am new to this group. I have been on Atkins for one

month and one day now, and have to date lost several inches and 20 pounds. I

am a nurse and live in WI with my two kids, one who has been Atkinsing with

me, and one who doesn't need to.

I look forward to the support of the group, and continued success on this

WOE.

Patti

[Guest guest]

Having a diet Coke is NOT cheating. I know everyone keeps saying you have

to have all this water, but Atkins himself said in " Dr. Atkins Diet

Revolution " that you should have all the liquids you want as long as they

are no carb. He says you DON'T need to force fluids, just drink what you

feel comfortable with. I'm not sure where people keep getting this bit that

you have to drink tons of water, but that is usually the requirement on

other diets, and as we all know, Atkins is way different from other diets!

Another thing is that people keep saying you should not be getting dark

purple on the sticks, that a trace is better. Well, this is directly from

Atkins again: " Usually the deeper the purple shown on the Ketostix, the

less the hunger. The paler the color shown on the Ketostix, the more the

possibility of hunger. However, you will find which shade of purple

correlates best with your own feeling, and this, for you, is the ideal. " He

also says, " The time of day you test makes a difference. One day a week

test your urine right through the day - morning, midday, evening, night.

Find out which hour of the day gives you the deepest reaction. (Usually

it's in the evening.) If that's the time that gives you the deepest

reaction, then that's the time you should check.

As long as the test stick shows some degree of purple or lavendar, you're

all right. But any day in which you go from a deep purple to a light shade

or to no change of color at all (beige) is a day in which you've had more

carbohydrates than you should have. "

Ok, that was direct from the horses mouth. Nothing about how it shouldn't

be deep purple because that means you aren't drinking enough water.

Nita

http://ni3d.homestead.com/nitaspages/nitasbirdsheet.html

Nita's Nest, with " Beginning with Birds " basic care sheet.

Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

> From: Salvagemom@...

>

> Hi to all,

> My name is Terry...

> I got serious with getting the pounds off in May...

> I lost 10 lbs. doing (PROTEIN POWER & CARBOHYDRATE ADDICT'S DIET.)

> My husbands business partner told me to try ATKINS _______in 6 months he

lost

> 50 lbs.

> I can't get off the induction weeks cause I cheat with 1 T. of peanut

butter

> a day or a diet coke....I have lost only 3 lbs. more and I can't get those

> darn sticks to go beyond med. purple.

> I have been on vacation and have been a bad girl and gained 3 lbs. back...

> I'm feeling down needless to say...

> I am back in the saddle today....

> I am hoping I am not resistant to this diet

> I have walked 4 miles every morning (takes me 1 hour) since May 6 DAYS A

WEEK

> I feel like those little cheats should not have kept me from losing more

> weight...

> Happy I found you guys and I hope we all have a great week!!!

> SALVAGEMOM@...

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Welcome Becky!!! Keep up the great work!!!!!!!!!

In a message dated 8/9/99 9:04:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BecketNYC@...

writes:

<< Hello, I'm Becky and have been on Atkins since June 14 and as of today

lost

20 pounds. >>

[Guest guest]

<< Please take a moment to tell us about yourself.

Are you just starting or have been on this diet for awhile. >>

Hi Sue,

I've been on the diet a month and have lost 10 pounds. More

importantly my enery level (I didn't even have one before!) has

dramatcially increased. I feel good. My moods are very even

and I sleep so much better.

I lost a lot of weight about 5 years ago on an almost no-fat

diet that was very low in calories and not adequate in protein.

Needless to say, I gained it back. Every time I have tried to

go back to that way of eating, I've wanted to gag and have

never been able to last more than maybe a week.

Atkins feels like this is how I can live for the rest of my life.

I'm not hungry and satisfied with the meals and how creative I

can get with the food. For me, this is it!

Regards,

Polly

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/10/1999 2:20:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

nitag@... writes:

<< I'm not doubting what other doctors or nurses have said, BUT, they tend to

disagree with most of this Atkins diet anyway, so I'm afraid if I'm going to

stay on this diet, I have to have complete belief in what Dr. Atkins says.

As he said on the Larry King show, he's been on this diet himself for

30-something years, and he looked pretty damn good to me. Much better than

the traditional doctors!

>>

Nita,

I'm not discounting anything Dr. Atkins has to say. He just doesn't seem

to talk about the dangers of excessive ketones. This was brought to my

attention by my pharmacist and I did some research. I just want to get the

word out that he doesn't talk about high ketone levels and their dangers.

Here is some info. I found on the net to help make my point.

I believe in this diet. I think it is a safe diet as long as you are

sensible and know what you are doing and why your body is producing ketones.

Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is one of the most serious acute complications of

diabetes. DKA occurs when the blood level of insulin falls far below the

body's needs. Low insulin means that glucose cannot nourish cells throughout

the body. The blood glucose level soars, and tissues throughout the body

become starved for glucose. To prevent cell death from starvation, the body

breaks down fat for energy. Chemicals called ketones are a byproduct of this

process. Ketones are acids that build up in the blood. As ketone levels rise,

they poison the body. They also spill into urine, stimulating the kidneys to

increase urine production, which causes dehydration, and in severe cases,

difficulty breathing, coma, and possibly death. The combination of high blood

glucose, high blood ketones, and dehydration is DKA.

In addition, DKA also causes:

Classic signs of high blood glucose (hyperglycemia): intense thirst, dry

mouth, and frequent urination

A fruity odor on the breath

Loss of appetite

Stomach pains

Nausea and possibly vomiting

Blurred vision

Fever

Dry, flushed skin

Difficulty breathing

Weakness

Sleepiness

[Guest guest]

I am also a nurse and yes.. this is correct.. drink lots of water and your

kidneys will be fine.. BTW:;; Browns 20 Cowboys 17....

yeaaahhh!!!

Re: Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

>From: GRSHOPER1@...

>

>In a message dated 08/09/1999 6:51:31 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

>nitag@... writes:

>

><< Ok, that was direct from the horses mouth. Nothing about how it

shouldn't

> be deep purple because that means you aren't drinking enough water.

> >>

>Nita,

>

> I understand that Dr. Atkins says all these thing...you are right. But,

>what concerns me is that I haven't read where he mentions possible damage

to

>your kidneys if you stay in the darkest colors too long. My pharmacist

gave

>me some hints. He said if I had a fruity, sweet taste in my mouth that I

had

>too many ketones built up in my system and I should drink more water. I

>notice I have this when I first wake up, so the first thing I do is drink

>water (or Crystal Light or any other no carb drink.) That way you are

>flushing some of the ketones out of your system.

>

> I have also heard this theory from another list I am on. If you have

too

>many ketones your body will start burning them for fuel and not your body

>fat. Now, I have not heard or read anything further on this, so I can not

>verify it.

>

> So, please everyone, just be very careful on this diet. I think it is

the

>greatest, but plenty of fluids are very important. Sue, I think you can

back

>me up on this. Isn't that what your nurse friend told you also?

>

>Marilyn

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

FYI: I belong to another Atkins list that is for nurses only.. so don't

think we all condemn this diet... :-) Right now.,,,, I think the risks

of being on the diet (if any) certainly are worth taking to lose the

weight.. Obesity is a bigger risk. However, I am afraid to mention the

diet to our hospital dietician because I feel these ppl are " brainwashed " .

when I see docs prescribe lowfat diets to our pts. I feel like screaming....

hehe

Re: Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

>

>

>I'm not doubting what other doctors or nurses have said, BUT, they tend to

>disagree with most of this Atkins diet anyway, so I'm afraid if I'm going

to

>stay on this diet, I have to have complete belief in what Dr. Atkins says.

>As he said on the Larry King show, he's been on this diet himself for

>30-something years, and he looked pretty damn good to me. Much better than

>the traditional doctors!

>

>Nita

>

>http://ni3d.homestead.com/nitaspages/nitasbirdsheet.html

>Nita's Nest, with " Beginning with Birds " basic care sheet.

>

> Re: Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

>

>

>> From: GRSHOPER1@...

>>

>> In a message dated 08/09/1999 6:51:31 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

>> nitag@... writes:

>>

>> << Ok, that was direct from the horses mouth. Nothing about how it

>shouldn't

>> be deep purple because that means you aren't drinking enough water.

>> >>

>> Nita,

>>

>> I understand that Dr. Atkins says all these thing...you are right.

>But,

>> what concerns me is that I haven't read where he mentions possible damage

>to

>> your kidneys if you stay in the darkest colors too long. My pharmacist

>gave

>> me some hints. He said if I had a fruity, sweet taste in my mouth that I

>had

>> too many ketones built up in my system and I should drink more water. I

>> notice I have this when I first wake up, so the first thing I do is drink

>> water (or Crystal Light or any other no carb drink.) That way you are

>> flushing some of the ketones out of your system.

>>

>> I have also heard this theory from another list I am on. If you have

>too

>> many ketones your body will start burning them for fuel and not your body

>> fat. Now, I have not heard or read anything further on this, so I can

not

>> verify it.

>>

>> So, please everyone, just be very careful on this diet. I think it is

>the

>> greatest, but plenty of fluids are very important. Sue, I think you can

>back

>> me up on this. Isn't that what your nurse friend told you also?

>>

>> Marilyn

>>

>> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue;

I just started this way of life about a week ago and I really feel I'm

on the right track. I know one thing I feel alot better and I am going

to try and just weigh once a week. I weigh 200lbs and I want to get

down to 150. I am 57 years old , have been married 40 years September

23. I have six kids and 14 grand children. one of my daughters died the

21 of last october and its hard for me to handle. Thats pretty well the

story of my life. I have three lasha apso dogs We love

unconditionally........One pig that we are crazy about.Love to bowl,

but need to get this weight off so I can be good at it. Love reading

the letters everyone writes........

Betty_az

--- Atkins-A-WayOfLife-owneronelist wrote:

> Hello,I am Sue

>

> Welcome to the list. Please take a moment to tell us

> about yourself.

> Are you just starting or have been on this diet for

> awhile. Let us

> know together we can help each other. I would like

> to take a minute to say I dont mind lurkers but

> would like ppl to post once and a while and any one

> joinign and going stright to no mail will be deleted

>

> List Manager

>

_____________________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list Polly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/10/1999 2:24:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

nitag@... writes:

<< There is no acidosis when ketosis occurs

as a normal concomitant of this diet. "

>>

So, even when people display signs of acidosis (like fruity breath, nausea,

loss of appetite) it really isn't? What are these things attributed to then?

Can you give me the pages in the book...I need to re-read them. I will

absorb better this time around since I am actually living the diet.

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

GRSHOPER1@... writes:

<< The combination of high blood

glucose, high blood ketones, and dehydration is DKA. >>

Yes. And DKA is not the same as ketosis induced from a low carb

diet eaten by a person who is not a Type I diabetic. DKA is

something Type I diabetics must avoid. However, a " normal "

person on a low carb diet will not have high blood glucose and

will not be dehydrated. Since these are two components of DKA,

benign dietary ketoisis is NOT the same thing.

Polly

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/99 9:50:55 AM Central Daylight Time,

nitag@... writes:

<< 've read this book several times over, and paid particular attention to the

parts about ketosis and acidosis, and my take is that when ketosis occurs

due to the reduction of carbohydrates taken in, he states over and over that

there is no acidosis occurring, and it would seem that this is regardless of

the strength of the ketosis as evidenced by the color change on the strip.

The quote I used yesterday pointed out that he felt the darker the purple

the better, because the darker color went along with less hunger.

Nita

>>

This was the idea I had gotten from the book too. I finally bought some

ketostix and I registered in the moderate range. Is that good?

Louann

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/10/99 1:42:28 PM Central Daylight Time,

PollyPulos@... writes:

<< Yes. And DKA is not the same as ketosis induced from a low carb

diet eaten by a person who is not a Type I diabetic. DKA is

something Type I diabetics must avoid. However, a " normal "

person on a low carb diet will not have high blood glucose and

will not be dehydrated. Since these are two components of DKA,

benign dietary ketoisis is NOT the same thing.

Polly

>>

What a relief to hear this!

[Guest guest]

That's what I always shoot for. If I've had a bit too much veggie with my

meals, I go right back to trace. When I stick to mainly meat and cheese, I

can usually get back up to moderate, and I do feel better when it's there,

too. Definitely less hungry.

Nita

http://ni3d.homestead.com/nitaspages/nitasbirdsheet.html

Nita's Nest, with " Beginning with Birds " basic care sheet.

Re: Welcome to Atkins-A-WayOfLifeonelist

> From: MizPres@...

>

> In a message dated 8/10/99 9:50:55 AM Central Daylight Time,

> nitag@... writes:

>

> << 've read this book several times over, and paid particular attention to

the

> parts about ketosis and acidosis, and my take is that when ketosis occurs

> due to the reduction of carbohydrates taken in, he states over and over

that

> there is no acidosis occurring, and it would seem that this is regardless

of

> the strength of the ketosis as evidenced by the color change on the

strip.

> The quote I used yesterday pointed out that he felt the darker the purple

> the better, because the darker color went along with less hunger.

>

> Nita

> >>

> This was the idea I had gotten from the book too. I finally bought some

> ketostix and I registered in the moderate range. Is that good?

>

> Louann

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Betty,

Welcome tothe list too!!!

Jen

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I am very excited about starting the Atkins Diet! But also a little

apprehensive about trying to create meals properly, figure out snacks oh yes,

Do I have to give up my 2 cups

of morning coffee? That's gonna be tough!

Talk to you soon!

Ree

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth,

I am brand new to onelist and to the Atkins wol. As a matter of fact I

start tomorrow!!

Reading your message gave me extra incentive to get going, you have done

great so far!

You must be very proud and excited. I'm a little worried about getting used

to what I can

and can't eat and how to cook them. Can you eat the skin on the chicken or

is it better to have boneless, skinless breast?

Just thought maybe you could help me out alittle. Look forward to talking to

you.

Ree

[Guest guest]

Dear Ree,

I'm still in shock at how easy this woe is. I'm so glad your planning on

using it. As for the chicken skin go right ahead and enjoy it. I never

liked it much before and still don't eat it. I'm in the process of modifying

the way I cook now. Tonight I made a beef soup. Instead of using macaroni's

I used spinach in it. I also eliminated the potatoes and didn't miss them at

all. It was delicious. Do you guys post recipes? I'm getting a little sick

of sugar free Jell-O for dessert. Any suggestions would be welcomed. Good

luck with induction Ree--it won't be half as hard as you think it will.

Drink water!!!!!

Beth

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the list kiddo! 18 pounds is a wonderful start, and you'll get

some great tips here. My best tip ......pork rinds. You can almost

convince yourself they're potato chips, and i experimented with pounding up

a bunch to bread chicken with and it was awesome.

good luck!

Celia

>I'm way to fat for my own good. I was always a big girl, it never really

>bothered me but recently I've been feeling fat. I know it sounds crazy.

In

>May I started the weight watchers 123 thing-it took me 2 months to lose 16

>pounds. Which is great if you have a small amount to lose. I need to lose

>alot more than that and I was very discouraged. I heard alot about Atkins

>and even read the book. I decided to commit to the two week induction. I

>lost 8 pounds in two weeks and decided to stick it out for another week. I

>lost 10 pounds the third week. I still can't believe how easy this woe is.

>I've been hitting the net looking for tips and recipes and fell upon this

>list. I've heard alll the bad things ppl say about this diet (my own dr.

>wants me to stop) but I can't see how it can be harmful. I was 320 when I

>started Atkins and am now 302. I would love to be 180. I don't know if

you

>need anymore info, please let me know. I'm fairly new to the net and hope

I

>posted this correctly, I'm sorry if I didn't. Anywho--I look forward to

>hearing from this group.

>Beth

>

>---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi Beth

You and I are in the same boat when I started this diet I weighed 310

here 3 1/2 months later I am 266 unlike you thou my Dr approves. My

best to you and if you want any help i use yahoo pager and icq give

me a yell. Sue

--- ysgrrl@... wrote:

> From: ysgrrl@...

>

> Hi Sue,

> I don't know how much detail you want so forgive me

> if I get carried away.

> I'm way to fat for my own good. I was always a big

> girl, it never really

> bothered me but recently I've been feeling fat. I

> know it sounds crazy. In

> May I started the weight watchers 123 thing-it took

> me 2 months to lose 16

> pounds. Which is great if you have a small amount

> to lose. I need to lose

> alot more than that and I was very discouraged. I

> heard alot about Atkins

> and even read the book. I decided to commit to the

> two week induction. I

> lost 8 pounds in two weeks and decided to stick it

> out for another week. I

> lost 10 pounds the third week. I still can't

> believe how easy this woe is.

> I've been hitting the net looking for tips and

> recipes and fell upon this

> list. I've heard alll the bad things ppl say about

> this diet (my own dr.

> wants me to stop) but I can't see how it can be

> harmful. I was 320 when I

> started Atkins and am now 302. I would love to be

> 180. I don't know if you

> need anymore info, please let me know. I'm fairly

> new to the net and hope I

> posted this correctly, I'm sorry if I didn't.

> Anywho--I look forward to

> hearing from this group.

> Beth

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Coffee is a personal issue the book says you should go de caf for 2

weeks and then use sparingly but it is all up to you what to do with

or without. Sue

--- Scrog3197@... wrote:

> From: Scrog3197@...

>

> Hi Sue,

>

> I am very excited about starting the Atkins Diet!

> But also a little

> apprehensive about trying to create meals properly,

> figure out snacks oh yes,

> Do I have to give up my 2 cups

> of morning coffee? That's gonna be tough!

>

> Talk to you soon!

> Ree

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

Beth,

Welcome to the family.I hope you find all that you need to reach your goal

here.As I'm sure you will.

Billie/MS.

[Guest guest]

Welcome Beth!!!!!!!!!!!!