Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 , In my daughters case, the trauma began at 13, when her father decided that she was to know the intimate details of our relationship, all bad, mostly lies. Then her grandmother died, along with the emotional abandoment all her life from her father, she looked elsewhere for " love " , wound up getting pregnant at 15, and then terminated the pregnancy. Our divorce was quite bitter, as her father would not leave the home for the entire year and a half thru the proceedings, continuing to ignore her, and pit her against me. In the end, she realized what he was doing, but not before the damage was done. He left, and I was left to deal with her in and out of six different facilities for the next two years, starting with depression, then the BPD traits, then onto an eating disorder. What a mess. Good luck to you and all of us. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I am wondering if it is common for those with BPD to have been triggered by something - which often can tend to be sexual abuse but can also be other traumas. I am thinking my daughter was triggered by a different kind of trauma - she has been incontinent and most of her problems heightened in junior high. I am thinking the trauma of having wetting accidents around your junior high peers was her real downward spiraling point. But hard to know! Re: BPD and sexual abuse Rivka, Do you think this is how BPD got the reputation for being a result of sexual abuse? I ask because our daughter, 21, completed DBT and doing very well at this stage, has always denied any kind of abuse. For instance... When our daughter was first diagnosed her psych told us that most sufferers had been sexually abused but our daughter had denied any abuse. Later when I talked about BPD with a coworker she informed me that ALL sufferers had been sexually abused (we were consultanting for a behavioural change program and she was a nurse in local gaol). As you can imagine, I was beside myself thinking about all the times my daughter had been babysat, all of the times there may have been a window of opportunity for abuse to occur. I ended up a counselling session ready to condemn myself for being an unfit mother but eventually - with help of counsellor - rational thinking stepped in and I decided to believe my daughter and to stop creating what ifs. Some time later, after a major incident involving all three daughters - initiated by daughter with BP - police and the local hospital, a nurse basically tried to coerce our daughter into admitting that she had been sexually abused after I explained that she had BP. As you can imagine this did little to settle our daughter's anger and a great deal to elevate my frustration at the lack of knowledge about BP within our health industry. I complained, of course, to the local mental health unit and was invited to give some input, from a carer's point of view, into the setting up of a pilot program to introduce DBT principles into our local mental health unit for in patients and out patients. I am pleased also to say that since our incident, and I don't think it's a direct result from our incident, that many of the staff in our local mental health unit have undergone some training to understand BP so that they can be better equipped when people present to the hospital emergency with BP issues. I believe this is because of the increase in recognition of BP being a " real " illness. My daughter has just read this post and wanted me to tell you what she really said to the nurse but sorry can't repeat. She's happy for me to share our experiences and I always make sure that she's aware of what's going on. Interested to hear you thoughts, Deb > i think it is so sad-they ALL feel so terrible about themselves-no > matter how much they seem to deny any problems...they REALLY feel so > terrible about themselves. one of the many ways they try to avoid > these awful feelings is to grasp upon any excuse for their sickness- > and being sexually abused is terrible enough-and with the (mostly > good natured, but ill-informed) therapists that " suggest " this to > them...(and how miserable of course when it is true-they are so naive > and vulnerable-but how to know what really happens?)- rivka Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 we don't know of any traumatic experience that triggered our daughter's BPD. we've been asked by all of the professionals if there was a traumatic event. she doesn't know of any either. i noticed that she was difficult to please and unhappy around age 4, but she was neer Dx w/ depression until age 14. she was treated for ADHD since age 6. Knutson wrote:I am wondering if it is common for those with BPD to have been triggered by something - which often can tend to be sexual abuse but can also be other traumas. I am thinking my daughter was triggered by a different kind of trauma - she has been incontinent and most of her problems heightened in junior high. I am thinking the trauma of having wetting accidents around your junior high peers was her real downward spiraling point. But hard to know! Re: BPD and sexual abuse Rivka, Do you think this is how BPD got the reputation for being a result of sexual abuse? I ask because our daughter, 21, completed DBT and doing very well at this stage, has always denied any kind of abuse. For instance... When our daughter was first diagnosed her psych told us that most sufferers had been sexually abused but our daughter had denied any abuse. Later when I talked about BPD with a coworker she informed me that ALL sufferers had been sexually abused (we were consultanting for a behavioural change program and she was a nurse in local gaol). As you can imagine, I was beside myself thinking about all the times my daughter had been babysat, all of the times there may have been a window of opportunity for abuse to occur. I ended up a counselling session ready to condemn myself for being an unfit mother but eventually - with help of counsellor - rational thinking stepped in and I decided to believe my daughter and to stop creating what ifs. Some time later, after a major incident involving all three daughters - initiated by daughter with BP - police and the local hospital, a nurse basically tried to coerce our daughter into admitting that she had been sexually abused after I explained that she had BP. As you can imagine this did little to settle our daughter's anger and a great deal to elevate my frustration at the lack of knowledge about BP within our health industry. I complained, of course, to the local mental health unit and was invited to give some input, from a carer's point of view, into the setting up of a pilot program to introduce DBT principles into our local mental health unit for in patients and out patients. I am pleased also to say that since our incident, and I don't think it's a direct result from our incident, that many of the staff in our local mental health unit have undergone some training to understand BP so that they can be better equipped when people present to the hospital emergency with BP issues. I believe this is because of the increase in recognition of BP being a " real " illness. My daughter has just read this post and wanted me to tell you what she really said to the nurse but sorry can't repeat. She's happy for me to share our experiences and I always make sure that she's aware of what's going on. Interested to hear you thoughts, Deb > i think it is so sad-they ALL feel so terrible about themselves-no > matter how much they seem to deny any problems...they REALLY feel so > terrible about themselves. one of the many ways they try to avoid > these awful feelings is to grasp upon any excuse for their sickness- > and being sexually abused is terrible enough-and with the (mostly > good natured, but ill-informed) therapists that " suggest " this to > them...(and how miserable of course when it is true-they are so naive > and vulnerable-but how to know what really happens?)- rivka Send questions & concerns to WTOParentsOfBPs-owner . " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL (). For the table of contents, see http://www.BPDCentral.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 BINGO!!! Liz -- " elephantgl " wrote: Rivka, Do you think this is how BPD got the reputation for being a result of sexual abuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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