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In a message dated 9/18/04 10:20:40 AM, VulvarDisorders

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<< I am wondering if anyone has any discharge that is

milky white like cream that seems to cause the burning? >>

Hi deb,

It's normal discharge. The wetness of it may bother your irritated tissue

more, but unless the discharge is caused by an infection - it's not the cause of

your burning.

<<Has anyone

found help with yeast type vitamins that are supposed

to help the right flora?>>

Some people have, others haven't.

<<And does anyone have different

kinds of burning and locations depending on cylce in the month?>>

That's pretty normal with vv/vvs. Depending on one's estrogen and

progesterone levels during the month, when they fluctuate - one can be more

sensitive to

pain. A lot of us are more sensitive just before our periods when there's

quite a difference in the levels. For most of us, it doesn't indicate a

hormonal problem, just that we're more sensitive to pain then and any touch -

even an

increase in wetness can irritate us more than usual.

Debbie

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I have creamy white colored discharge which is also creamy thick, just a little thinner than pudding. I get this discharge when I have more progesterone in my system then estrogen. Yes, it does seem to irritate, but my guess is that it probably really isn't an irritant, it's just that I'm looking at the area far more frequently when I taking progesterone to get a bleed - because it's 10 times more tender and I'm obsessing about what MIGHT be wrong. Thus, I see the discharge and associate it with the pain. Now, I'm pretty sure that its the effect of too much progesterone in the area/or in my body which causes the pain and irritation of the vulva and vestibule.

The reason I'm so sure is that when I use estrogen only, I don't have the serious irritation of either area and I don't have the copious amounts of creamy thick goo to deal with.

This would also answer your questions about pain different times of the month. My vulvar and vestibule pain is greatly reduced when I am not getting close to a period (which for me means using the progesterone for 12 days out of every 60 in order to get a bleed, because I am menopausal.)

Hope this helps

-----Original Message-----From: ruthiema36 Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 11:32 AMTo: VulvarDisorders Subject: Re: question about discharge and burning> Sorry, I hope I ask this right.> I am wondering if anyone has any discharge that is> milky white like cream that seems to cause the burning?> If you do, what has been your diagnosis? Has anyone> found help with yeast type vitamins that are supposed> to help the right flora? And does anyone have different> kinds of burning and locations depending on cylce in the month?> Thanks debI have that type of discharge (milky white like cream), occasionally,It has been cultured and nothing showed up. A thin milky whitedischarge can mean BV. I use boric acid suppositories about onceevery 2 weeks to help balance the flora and fauna.Ruth (Ruthiema)*****END OF MESSAGE/REMOVE WHEN REPLYING*****http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisordersto search our archive or view our files.***

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Good points Dusty, ;)

Also when estrogen is higher we feel pain less, that's a piece of the puzzle anyway. It may be even be a large part of Fibro pain some theories say. (having low E)..

They know from studies that declining Estradiol causes heightened sensitivity of nerve endings to pain, and then add the stress of chronic pain (of any type) or even reg. emotional stress to this soup, it further causes the Estrogen to decline, giving us a viscious cycle. (per Dr. Vliet)

And of course Progesterone or soy and even yeast 'blocks' our E 'receptors' even more. (as in Birth control (mainly made of progestins) or adding the P in HRT or just our normal cycles when P is highest pre-period.) it sure can be a mixed bag, no doubt about that.

Dee~

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If you look in the archives, you'll find that a lot of

us suffer from this irritating white discharge. I

believe the medical term is leukorrhea. Mine is the

color and consistency of OTC yeast cream. I know it's

an irritant, because showering it off gives me an hour

or so or relief until it builds up again. It's

important to remember that discharge is just a

symptom, no different than having a runny nose--which

could indicate anything from allergies to a sinus

infection.

The discharge could be normal for you, although I've

always heard that normal discharge should never

irritate. Other causes I've heard of for discharge are

yeast, BV, atrophy, DIV, HPV, trichomonas, excess

estrogen, excess progesterone, chlamydia, gonorrhea,

inflammation/irritation, contact allergies, food

allergies, cervicitis, uterine fibroids, lichen planus

and ovulation. I'm sure there are even more causes--as

you can see, discharge in itself is not very specific.

All you can do is persuade your doctor to run the

latest, most-sensitive tests for the above. They may

well come out negative (as mine usually do). IMO,

discharge can also be a symptom of vulvodynia, meaning

they can't explain it, either.

Zig

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