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I was waiting to see if anyone would mention red wine. They were probably

afraid of starting a holy war. My doctor told me to drink one glass of dry red

wine a day. My HDL was 105 and triglycerides were 45 at last testing. I also

take flax seed and exercise but my HDL was never THAT high before. A former

member on another list called red wine " liquid metformin " . Before we get

everyone

excited, it was ONE glass, not the entire bottle!

TF

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TF wrote:

<< A former member on another list called red wine " liquid

metformin " . >>

We call all liquors " liquid metformin " because alcohol ties up the

liver so it can't crank out its version of glucose and pull our

readings up, which worsens diabetes control. As long as moderation is

exercised, liquor can also help one relax. It helped my severe

hypertension markedly. Many diabetics like Merlot because of its high

alcohol content. The higher the alcohol count, the less sugar the

wine is likely to contain, since the process converts sugar to wine.

Susie

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TIKFANTI@... wrote:

>I was waiting to see if anyone would mention red wine. They were probably

>afraid of starting a holy war. My doctor told me to drink one glass of dry red

>wine a day. My HDL was 105 and triglycerides were 45 at last testing. I also

>take flax seed and exercise but my HDL was never THAT high before. A former

>member on another list called red wine " liquid metformin " . Before we get

everyone

>excited, it was ONE glass, not the entire bottle!

>

>TF

>

>

I'd say your doc is up on things. Yup, one glass of red wine

every night

before bed for me. Can't stand Merlot but I down it. Still

looking for

something better. My morning numbers are also great.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-09/acs-ncf082503.php

New cholesterol fighter found in red wine

http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/98/2.5.98/resveratrol.html

Higher levels of resveratrol found among N.Y. red wines

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" My doctor told me to drink one glass of dry red

> wine a day. " TF

>

,

A stupid question from a non-drinker who knows nothing about wine.

Doesn't the wine go bad after you open it, drink only one glass a

night, and keep it for several days?

Wayne

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Recently I did some surfing to find out more about the claims about the

benefits of red wine.

Here are some quotes from articles - about wine and mice and men (OK - no

they were rats).

" Pterostilbene has another benefit not found in resveratrol. Animal studies

by others have shown that the

compound can lower blood glucose and may be a potent antidiabetic agent. At

least one study showed that it could lower plasma glucose levels in rats

with high blood sugar by 42 percent, a rate comparable to the antidiabetic

agent metformin, according to Rimando. "

http://www.idahowine.org/health/diabetes.htm

I have several other references to the same news release. In one there is a

note of caution.

http://www.prohealthnetwork.com/library/showarticle.cfm/ID/359/e/1/T/Health/

" Resveratrol has been found in many fruits, including blueberries and

cranberries, but it is perhaps best

known for its presence in grapes and red wine. Pterostilbene has so far been

identified in grapes and in a relatively unknown medicinal plant, according

to Rimando. Dark-skinned grapes (such as red and blue-black) are likely to

contain the most pterostilbene, while green grapes (also called white

grapes) probably contain less, she says. "

" For reasons that are unclear, pterostilbene is not normally found in wine,

Rimando says. This may be

because it is unstable in light and air, which makes it less likely to

survive the wine-making process, she says. "

In another article,

" In examining why wine consumption is linked to France's low rate of death

from heart disease relative to that of other nations that also have a high

fat intake, prior research has linked red wine to increased levels of good

cholesterol (HDL) and increased flexibility and diameter of the arteries. "

And the final straw for me - is

" The discovery that resveratrol is estrogenic means that such

supplementation might have undesirable side effects, " - Having had breast

cancer last year I have to take an anti-estrogen tablet everyday (Arimidex -

but many others take Tamoxifen) so I feel that it is not in my best

interests to drink much red wine. I am using it for a few weeks to see if it

helps to bring down my Fasting BGs. but I wont continue for very long.

Bea

Christy Friday, October 10, 2003 1:50 PM

Subject: Re: Lower HDL

> I also generally have about 4 ounces of red wine each evening. It

> has a good anti-oxidant effect and a recent study found a high

> concentration of another element, whose name I can't remember, which

> can have an excellent effect on overall health and lowering of

> cholesterol. >

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I was in an antique store recently and saw a set of wineglasses that looked

like fishbowls set on stems. My first thought was, " Oh, but Officer, I only

had ONE glass of wine! "

Re: Re: Lower HDL

(depending on how big your glass

is). .

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A stupid question from a non-drinker who knows nothing about wine.

Doesn't the wine go bad after you open it, drink only one glass a

night, and keep it for several days?

Wayne,

I like wine, but my husband doesn't... I have a special cork with a pump,

that I bought from a wine store, which pumps the air out of it. Supposed to

help it stay fresher... it doesn't turn to vinegar in a few days, but it may

not anyway. If you want to open a fresh bottle every night, you can buy

those little single serving bottles in the grocery store.

Sandy

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