Re: Brain Bleeding Not Uncommon in Full-Term Babies

March 12, 2004

le,

Yes, interesting reading. I know it is a waste of energy -- but can't help

wonder what the apraxia is due to -- and I know never will. But my severe

verbal apraxia soon was full term VBAC and suction and forcepts were used.

???????????

Lori J.

mother to 4 1/2 verbal apraxia

March 12, 2004

Lori--

I know what you mean as it being a waste of energy wondering. There

comes a point where you just don't think about it as much and you

just move on. It just caught my interest, and seemed like a good

thing to share and tuck into the back of my mind, just in case

something comes up in the future as they learn more and more about

possible causes for apraxia. But you can see where I kind of made a

possible connection with this information.

BTW, Drew, as a I mentioned, was a vacuum birth, but he was a first

child and full-term to the day (I know what day he was conceived due

to trying for a while and having ovulation kits with me on a

vacation), and my pregnancy was textbook all the way up until the

moment he had to be vacuumed out. But then again, this was the last

try before an emergency c-section. Turned out he was too big--9 lbs.

12 oz., 21.5 inches at birth! (And he's STILL a big kid wearing size

4T at age 2 1/2!)

le

> le,

> Yes, interesting reading. I know it is a waste of energy -- but

can't help

> wonder what the apraxia is due to -- and I know never will. But my

severe

> verbal apraxia soon was full term VBAC and suction and forcepts

were used.

> ???????????

> Lori J.

> mother to 4 1/2 verbal apraxia

>

March 13, 2004

Chris--

Me either-- I don't recall any dips in heart rate either. Drew was

just so dang big! As I mentioned, he was a vacuum birth, and didn't

have any signs of it other than there was a conehead on top of his

conehead-- like a double conehead effect. I was pushing for almost 2

hours before they decided that I needed some extra help beyond an

episiotomy. I had some tearing, but not much. The only person at the

time who thought something was wrong with Drew from the get-go was my

mother (who delivered twins both averaging 7.5 lbs. EACH without

drugs at full term years before, or at least without drugs so she

claims). She said he didn't seem like he was making eye contact when

he was just a few hours old. She always felt that the vacuum did the

damage. I don't think so, but I've never completely dismissed the

idea either. This article just got me to thinking, seeing the

correlation of events with this study. Like I said, who knows? How

many vacuum or forceps births have been done where there are no

problems afterwards? It's just a theory to keep tucked under my brain

somewhere...

For my son, it could be almost anything...could've been this

traumatic birth, could've been high fevers, could've been

genetics...or a combination of any of these three. I'm just passing

it along because I think it helps us as a group to find some of these

commonalities when we can, so we can give researchers someday

something significant to research to help parents in the future know

what might cause their child's apraxia.

le

>

> I don't recall dips in heart rate. But, I know they were preparing

me for

> another c section and I begged for a few more tries. Yes,

had bruising

> from the forceps and kind of an egg shaped head initially.

March 14, 2004

annemarie,

love the professional, amauter statement. I laughed out loud.

Its true about that it doesn't really help my sons situation to know how is

apraxic but its interesting how some people had the same situation as me or

close to it. also interesting how some did not have the same situation. I

think I'm going to look into studies about our situations. keep you guys posted

chris

Annemarie <payette@...> wrote:

1 have 4 kids...2 with speech and language issues. I always wondered about

that too. My two with language issues...one was 9 1/2 lbs 22 inches and was

my smallest baby, and the other just under 10 lbs (I had one that was 11 1/2

lbs!) both of them were HIGH forcep deliveries, which they aren't even

supposed to do anymore (or so I was told) and both were grabbed by the

temples. One of them was so badly swollen and bruised around his temples

and eyes..... The other two kids deliveries-no forceps were used. The 2

with forceps had speech and language issues, sensory issues, one has a

tremor and none of these run in the family...... I know it won't make any

difference to know now but I always just kind of wondered...it just seemed

like too much of a coincidence. I guess it still could be

Annemarie

Never be afraid to try something new.

Remember: Amateurs...built the ark.

Professionals...built the Titanic

March 17, 2004

They tried forceps on my son and then had to go to a c-section. Which they

should have done earlier. My son was born with a BIG bruise on his temple. He

seizured the next day and now has apraxia.

Terry

Rome <christinerome@...> wrote: