Re: Poor Sister in law :o(

April 13, 1999

In a message dated 4/13/99 6:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

indigomoon@... writes:

<< Anyone on the list ever have this problem? Or know what to do? The

lactation

lady said she needs to latch on properly. and if she wants that she can pump

and dump the one side. Poor Diane....her hormones are the pits.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

Love,

I wanted to nurse the baby myself...

>>

Yes I had this problem with Lexi, her mouth was too small to open far enough.

I used Polysporin to help heal the cracks, and it moisturizes the nipple as

well to help prevent more cracking. And I would use the EvenFlo Disposeable

Breastpads to help keep the moisture in! They are horrible when you need them

for pulling the moisture away, but they are good when you NEED it.

And actually PUMPING, right now, will make it worse, because it pulls the

nipple even farther, which can make the cracks bigger and more painful till

they heal a little bit......

Also I would make sure she is not allowing herself to become engorged, I got

mastitis when I went through all this, because the cracks are a breeding

ground for bacteria, and it is easier to get a infection......ANOTHER Plus to

using the Polysporin!!

I would just tell her to use that breast as little as she can, but to still

express some into a rag or bottle, but just get the milk out so she doesn't

get engorged.

And just let it heal a little before trying to nurse on that side again!

Hope I have helped, I know how hard that can be....Hope she is doing better

soon!

Stacie

April 13, 1999

In a message dated 4/13/99 7:20:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

angehowe@... writes:

<< Have her talk to her doctor about taking an analgesic that is compatible

with breastfeeding!

Avoid letting her nipples dry out enough to form scabs. The scabs can be

pulled off during feedings requiring the whole process to start over again.

Gently remind her that breastfeeding is still worth it, and this too shall

pass (with good positioning)!

>>

Yes my doctor was the one who gave me Polysporin to use for this problem,

which this helps to make it so they don't dry out too much.

is right, and the pumping will also pull off the scabs and make it

bleed worse....BTDT! But again hope she is doing better soon!

Stacie

April 13, 1999

,

Go over the basics of good positioning with her again... The baby's body

is facing the mother, tummy to tummy, so that he doesn't have to turn his

head. He should take the breast deeply into his mouth, with a wide open

gape, getting as much areola as possible (about one inch, but that varies).

His chin is pressed into the breast and his nose may rest on the breast.

You'll want to make certain that both the baby's bottom and top lip

are flanged out (that he isn't sucking them in during a feeding). You

should also be able to see baby's tongue if you pull his lower lip gently

away while he is nursing. When baby is done actively sucking, suction needs

to be broken by inserting a finger into the corner of the baby's mouth,

pulling down on baby's chin, or pressing down on her breast near the baby's

mouth.

Many cases of sore nipples can be helped by reviewing positioning and

latch-on. Mom should be comfortable, with arms and back supported. The baby

will be brought to breast level so that mom does not have to lean over to

feed. See that the baby's ear, shoulder, and hip are in a straight line,

and his body is well supported. His knees are pulled in close to mom.

After the mature milk " comes in, " the baby will be wetting at least six to

eight cloth or five to six disposable diapers. During the first six weeks,

the baby will have at least two to five bowel movements a day. (Fewer bowel

movements are normal for the baby after about the age of six weeks).

If sore nipples persist, it may be helpful for your sister in law to be

*observed* nursing her baby, preferably by an IBCLC certified lactation

professional or other health care professional with knowledge of

breastfeeding.

Assure her that if the baby is latched on well and the nipple goes deeply

into the baby's mouth, this will protect the nipple from further damage.

To help healing:

Hand-express some milk before a feeding to stimulate the let-down before

putting the baby to the breast. Start nursing from the side that's least

sore until the let-down occurs, then switch the baby to the sore breast,

and pay close attention to good positioning and latch.

After nursings, express colostrum or milk onto the nipples and let it dry

(if this might be thrush, *do not* do this! Thrush thrives on milk.)

If her nipples are so sore that she can't tolerate the pressure of a bra

of clothing on them and it is painful to hold her baby, she can apply

purified lanolin for breastfeeding mothers after feedings and use breast

shells (not nipple shields) with large openings and air holes for

circulation in her bra to protect her nipples.

Have her talk to her doctor about taking an analgesic that is compatible

with breastfeeding!

Avoid letting her nipples dry out enough to form scabs. The scabs can be

pulled off during feedings requiring the whole process to start over again.

Gently remind her that breastfeeding is still worth it, and this too shall

pass (with good positioning)!

April 13, 1999

You ladies are all just so great & helpful !

Thank you so very much!

Love,

> Re: Poor Sister in law (

>

> From: MamaToLexi@...

>

> In a message dated 4/13/99 6:15:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> indigomoon@... writes:

>

> << Anyone on the list ever have this problem? Or know what to do? The

> lactation

> lady said she needs to latch on properly. and if she wants that

> she can pump

> and dump the one side. Poor Diane....her hormones are the pits.

>

> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Love,

>

> I wanted to nurse the baby myself...

> >>

> Yes I had this problem with Lexi, her mouth was too small to open

> far enough.

> I used Polysporin to help heal the cracks, and it moisturizes the

> nipple as

> well to help prevent more cracking. And I would use the EvenFlo

> Disposeable

> Breastpads to help keep the moisture in! They are horrible when

> you need them

> for pulling the moisture away, but they are good when you NEED it.

> And actually PUMPING, right now, will make it worse, because it pulls the

> nipple even farther, which can make the cracks bigger and more

> painful till

> they heal a little bit......

> Also I would make sure she is not allowing herself to become

> engorged, I got

> mastitis when I went through all this, because the cracks are a breeding

> ground for bacteria, and it is easier to get a

> infection......ANOTHER Plus to

> using the Polysporin!!

> I would just tell her to use that breast as little as she can,

> but to still

> express some into a rag or bottle, but just get the milk out so

> she doesn't

> get engorged.

> And just let it heal a little before trying to nurse on that side again!

> Hope I have helped, I know how hard that can be....Hope she is

> doing better

> soon!

> Stacie

>

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April 13, 1999

Thank You!

Great advice! I forwarded it to her and will also print it out!

Thanks a million!

Love,

> Re: Poor Sister in law (

>

> ,

>

> Go over the basics of good positioning with her again... The baby's body

> is facing the mother, tummy to tummy, so that he doesn't have to turn his

> head. He should take the breast deeply into his mouth, with a wide open

> gape, getting as much areola as possible (about one inch, but

> that varies).

> His chin is pressed into the breast and his nose may rest on the breast.

> You'll want to make certain that both the baby's bottom and top lip

> are flanged out (that he isn't sucking them in during a feeding). You

> should also be able to see baby's tongue if you pull his lower lip gently

> away while he is nursing. When baby is done actively sucking,

> suction needs

> to be broken by inserting a finger into the corner of the baby's mouth,

> pulling down on baby's chin, or pressing down on her breast near

> the baby's

> mouth.

>

> Many cases of sore nipples can be helped by reviewing positioning and

> latch-on. Mom should be comfortable, with arms and back

> supported. The baby

> will be brought to breast level so that mom does not have to lean over to

> feed. See that the baby's ear, shoulder, and hip are in a straight line,

> and his body is well supported. His knees are pulled in close to mom.

>

> After the mature milk " comes in, " the baby will be wetting at least six to

> eight cloth or five to six disposable diapers. During the first six weeks,

> the baby will have at least two to five bowel movements a day.

> (Fewer bowel

> movements are normal for the baby after about the age of six weeks).

>

> If sore nipples persist, it may be helpful for your sister in law to be

> *observed* nursing her baby, preferably by an IBCLC certified lactation

> professional or other health care professional with knowledge of

> breastfeeding.

>

> Assure her that if the baby is latched on well and the nipple goes deeply

> into the baby's mouth, this will protect the nipple from further damage.

>

> To help healing:

> Hand-express some milk before a feeding to stimulate the let-down before

> putting the baby to the breast. Start nursing from the side that's least

> sore until the let-down occurs, then switch the baby to the sore breast,

> and pay close attention to good positioning and latch.

>

> After nursings, express colostrum or milk onto the nipples and let it dry

> (if this might be thrush, *do not* do this! Thrush thrives on milk.)

>

> If her nipples are so sore that she can't tolerate the pressure of a bra

> of clothing on them and it is painful to hold her baby, she can apply

> purified lanolin for breastfeeding mothers after feedings and use breast

> shells (not nipple shields) with large openings and air holes for

> circulation in her bra to protect her nipples.

>

> Have her talk to her doctor about taking an analgesic that is compatible

> with breastfeeding!

>

> Avoid letting her nipples dry out enough to form scabs. The scabs can be

> pulled off during feedings requiring the whole process to start

> over again.

>

> Gently remind her that breastfeeding is still worth it, and this too shall

> pass (with good positioning)!

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

April 13, 1999

Oh, that poor woman - and baby! Here, follow this link, print the

information if you can, and get it straight over to her!!

http://breastfeeding.hypermart.net/sorenipples.html

I can relate about the hormones! For about 2-4 weeks pp I would cry all

the time. At first it was several times during the day. Dave was so

great, he would just hug me and say, " It's ok, you're hormones are going

crazy, don't worry, they'll settle down. " Gosh, it makes me teary just

thinking about it. I remember being in the hospital and being afraid to

let the nurse see me cry - lol, I thought she'd take my baby away!

(Well, you hear those horror stories about mothers with ppd...)

Anyway, after we were home for a few days I was better - I would only

cry once it started to get dark! lol! One of my friends called to check

on me about a week or so after I gave birth. I remember her saying,

" well, you sound ok, you're not crying. " And I said, " But I am

crying. " I was such a mess!

I hope she feels better soon. {{{Hugs}}} for her. And Konnor sends her

a big smile, too!

-Dacia

>

indigomoon wrote:

>

> My Sister in law gave birth on Friday. She got cracked nipples. Today

> she called and said I'm okay...then burst into tears.

> Her hormones hit the floor today. Anyway she said she was nursing

> Carlie & removed her to burp her & her nipple was bleeding

> bad and then the baby threw up a lot of blood....from the nipple. I

> hopped in my car and got there within 10 minutes.

> She was still crying. I told her the blood won't hurt the baby.

>

> I spent the day holding the baby, checking her diaper for wetness, and

> wondering if she was getting enough milk. I feed her 1 oz of formula.

> I was there from 2:30-5:30.

> I called all around town to talk to a lactation consultant or someone.

> Left messages at 3 places, paged another lady twice.

>

> Anyone on the list ever have this problem? Or know what to do? The

> lactation lady said she needs to latch on properly. and if she wants

> that she can pump and dump the one side. Poor Diane....her hormones

> are the pits.

>

> Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Love,

>

> I wanted to nurse the baby myself...

April 14, 1999

In a message dated 4/14/99 11:28:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

naturebaby@... writes:

<< Dacia,

For me I found that the tears flowed the day my milk came in. Many times

besides that as well, but when my milk came in both times I was a weepy mess.

Wendi >>

You know this is something I was REALLY worried about having happen to me!

But I was SO HAPPY to just not be pregnant anymore......it never did LOL!

Oh my pregnancy was horrible at the end, she was soooo low, and so far out in

the front, I had streched to the max..... and so I was deleriosly happy when

she was born!

The only time I cried at all, was when I had had her the day before, and I

went downstairs to the cafeteria, and a lady stopped me and asked me when my

baby was Due......I started to cry and said in a weepy voice " she was born

Yesterday "

I mean I KNEW I would not be back to pre-pregnancy right after, but I thought

I looked pretty good not having a HUGE..belly anymore! I guess I wasn't

prepared for that, and so it made me cry.....

Stacie

April 14, 1999

Yeah - especially after your entire body is bloated from having antibiotics

pumped into you after having a c-section!

In a message dated 4/14/99 1:55:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

naturebaby@... writes:

<< Stacie,

That is a little shocking how pregnant you still look for a while.

Wendi >>

April 14, 1999

Dacia,

For me I found that the tears flowed the day my milk came in. Many times

besides that as well, but when my milk came in both times I was a weepy mess.

Wendi

Re: Poor Sister in law (